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On May 02 2013 22:24 LighT. wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:22 liberate71 wrote:On May 02 2013 22:20 LighT. wrote:
See whats wrong with Forcefields isnt the skill..
its that its not exciting..
EMP? EXCITING
New Fungal? OMG THEY GOT HIM! Exciting.
Storm? Aoe, damage effect. EXCITING!
Seeker Missile? EXCITING!
Force Fields? Trapping units and crowd control. zzz. EMP is exciting? When you couple with the fact that its Ghost vs HT, Feedback/EMP battle, yes it is exciting.
Don't really think EMP is exciting. Lacks that "punch". Storm is only "exciting" due to the screams of the bio units and the feeling of disgust it gives me as a Terran player 
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On May 02 2013 22:25 Douillos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:24 Nebuchad wrote:On May 02 2013 22:17 Prog455 wrote:On May 02 2013 22:14 snailz wrote:On May 02 2013 22:05 Prog455 wrote:On May 02 2013 21:59 CikaZombi wrote:
So much Protoss hate always in LR threads :<
Still, best day ever. I guess that's because Protoss is a gimmicky race. It is a bit like when players cheese their way through a tournament. A win is a win, but Forcefield is widely regarded as the most hated and broken ability in the game, and any game that is decided by Forcefields are gonna get a lot of hate. wrong.warpgate mechanic is the most broken ability in the game when it comes to bad game design and protoss in general. forcefield was something that was bitched about when MC was raping JulyZerg waaaaaaay back in the day, since then we came a long way, and most of the people realize the strengths as well as the weaknesses of the spell in question here, and the implications that we'd have by removing it. en tardo adun, whiner How exactly is it whine to think that a spell that completely neglects micro is a boring spell? I am fairly certain that i am not the only one who believes that there is some inherent flaws in the design of the Protoss race. No one minds the design of the protoss race when it's losing. If we all-in you blame short games If we macro you blame boring turtle If we micro you blame broken design Parting played perfect in these few games. I get that you enjoy zerg more than protoss, but there's no reason why making lings on two bases should be held in higher standard than casting forcefields. So true... all life did was mass lings on 1/2 bases throughout that series. Damn fuckin right he deserved to loose.
intelligent ling movement, counter attacking, forcefield baiting etc are way more interesting than just building a deathball or hitting a timing attack
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On May 02 2013 22:25 Douillos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:24 Nebuchad wrote:On May 02 2013 22:17 Prog455 wrote:On May 02 2013 22:14 snailz wrote:On May 02 2013 22:05 Prog455 wrote:On May 02 2013 21:59 CikaZombi wrote:
So much Protoss hate always in LR threads :<
Still, best day ever. I guess that's because Protoss is a gimmicky race. It is a bit like when players cheese their way through a tournament. A win is a win, but Forcefield is widely regarded as the most hated and broken ability in the game, and any game that is decided by Forcefields are gonna get a lot of hate. wrong.warpgate mechanic is the most broken ability in the game when it comes to bad game design and protoss in general. forcefield was something that was bitched about when MC was raping JulyZerg waaaaaaay back in the day, since then we came a long way, and most of the people realize the strengths as well as the weaknesses of the spell in question here, and the implications that we'd have by removing it. en tardo adun, whiner How exactly is it whine to think that a spell that completely neglects micro is a boring spell? I am fairly certain that i am not the only one who believes that there is some inherent flaws in the design of the Protoss race. No one minds the design of the protoss race when it's losing. If we all-in you blame short games If we macro you blame boring turtle If we micro you blame broken design Parting played perfect in these few games. I get that you enjoy zerg more than protoss, but there's no reason why making lings on two bases should be held in higher standard than casting forcefields. So true... all life did was mass lings on 1/2 bases throughout that series. Damn fuckin right he deserved to loose.
worst thing is, if he didn't trap that first set of lings after he took his expansion (the situation where Artosis goes "oh shit now he has to make more if Parting decides to move out" and Tasteless goes "yep, 20 lings in production"), Life would have won.
that was so hard for Parting, i can't belive all these people in here. such a good group, this is starcraft
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On May 02 2013 22:29 ETisME wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:25 Douillos wrote:On May 02 2013 22:24 Nebuchad wrote:On May 02 2013 22:17 Prog455 wrote:On May 02 2013 22:14 snailz wrote:On May 02 2013 22:05 Prog455 wrote:On May 02 2013 21:59 CikaZombi wrote:
So much Protoss hate always in LR threads :<
Still, best day ever. I guess that's because Protoss is a gimmicky race. It is a bit like when players cheese their way through a tournament. A win is a win, but Forcefield is widely regarded as the most hated and broken ability in the game, and any game that is decided by Forcefields are gonna get a lot of hate. wrong.warpgate mechanic is the most broken ability in the game when it comes to bad game design and protoss in general. forcefield was something that was bitched about when MC was raping JulyZerg waaaaaaay back in the day, since then we came a long way, and most of the people realize the strengths as well as the weaknesses of the spell in question here, and the implications that we'd have by removing it. en tardo adun, whiner How exactly is it whine to think that a spell that completely neglects micro is a boring spell? I am fairly certain that i am not the only one who believes that there is some inherent flaws in the design of the Protoss race. No one minds the design of the protoss race when it's losing. If we all-in you blame short games If we macro you blame boring turtle If we micro you blame broken design Parting played perfect in these few games. I get that you enjoy zerg more than protoss, but there's no reason why making lings on two bases should be held in higher standard than casting forcefields. So true... all life did was mass lings on 1/2 bases throughout that series. Damn fuckin right he deserved to loose. intelligent ling movement, counter attacking, forcefield baiting etc are way more interesting than just building a deathball or hitting a timing attack
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
Just don't hate -.- lol
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On May 02 2013 22:29 ETisME wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:25 Douillos wrote:On May 02 2013 22:24 Nebuchad wrote:On May 02 2013 22:17 Prog455 wrote:On May 02 2013 22:14 snailz wrote:On May 02 2013 22:05 Prog455 wrote:On May 02 2013 21:59 CikaZombi wrote:
So much Protoss hate always in LR threads :<
Still, best day ever. I guess that's because Protoss is a gimmicky race. It is a bit like when players cheese their way through a tournament. A win is a win, but Forcefield is widely regarded as the most hated and broken ability in the game, and any game that is decided by Forcefields are gonna get a lot of hate. wrong.warpgate mechanic is the most broken ability in the game when it comes to bad game design and protoss in general. forcefield was something that was bitched about when MC was raping JulyZerg waaaaaaay back in the day, since then we came a long way, and most of the people realize the strengths as well as the weaknesses of the spell in question here, and the implications that we'd have by removing it. en tardo adun, whiner How exactly is it whine to think that a spell that completely neglects micro is a boring spell? I am fairly certain that i am not the only one who believes that there is some inherent flaws in the design of the Protoss race. No one minds the design of the protoss race when it's losing. If we all-in you blame short games If we macro you blame boring turtle If we micro you blame broken design Parting played perfect in these few games. I get that you enjoy zerg more than protoss, but there's no reason why making lings on two bases should be held in higher standard than casting forcefields. So true... all life did was mass lings on 1/2 bases throughout that series. Damn fuckin right he deserved to loose. intelligent ling movement, counter attacking, forcefield baiting etc are way more interesting than just building a deathball or hitting a timing attack
His first game was just a messed up all in that Parting crushed beautifully with sim city.
The 2nd game, Life cheese worked out pretty good and he was ahead, until he threw away like 20 zerglings.
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Germany25649 Posts
Stop fighting please, don't want to step in -.-
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Thank you for an intense 4,5 hours. Time to play the game.
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On May 02 2013 22:30 Applesmack wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:29 ETisME wrote:On May 02 2013 22:25 Douillos wrote:On May 02 2013 22:24 Nebuchad wrote:On May 02 2013 22:17 Prog455 wrote:On May 02 2013 22:14 snailz wrote:On May 02 2013 22:05 Prog455 wrote:On May 02 2013 21:59 CikaZombi wrote:
So much Protoss hate always in LR threads :<
Still, best day ever. I guess that's because Protoss is a gimmicky race. It is a bit like when players cheese their way through a tournament. A win is a win, but Forcefield is widely regarded as the most hated and broken ability in the game, and any game that is decided by Forcefields are gonna get a lot of hate. wrong.warpgate mechanic is the most broken ability in the game when it comes to bad game design and protoss in general. forcefield was something that was bitched about when MC was raping JulyZerg waaaaaaay back in the day, since then we came a long way, and most of the people realize the strengths as well as the weaknesses of the spell in question here, and the implications that we'd have by removing it. en tardo adun, whiner How exactly is it whine to think that a spell that completely neglects micro is a boring spell? I am fairly certain that i am not the only one who believes that there is some inherent flaws in the design of the Protoss race. No one minds the design of the protoss race when it's losing. If we all-in you blame short games If we macro you blame boring turtle If we micro you blame broken design Parting played perfect in these few games. I get that you enjoy zerg more than protoss, but there's no reason why making lings on two bases should be held in higher standard than casting forcefields. So true... all life did was mass lings on 1/2 bases throughout that series. Damn fuckin right he deserved to loose. intelligent ling movement, counter attacking, forcefield baiting etc are way more interesting than just building a deathball or hitting a timing attack His first game was just a messed up all in that Parting crushed beautifully with sim city. The 2nd game, Life cheese worked out pretty good and he was ahead, until he threw away like 20 zerglings.
that moment was so fucking good, i don't know if you guys noticed, but he traped the zerglings with 3 forcefields and a building pylon*. that's just crazy 
(*pylon under construction)
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On May 02 2013 22:22 Berceno wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:06 letian wrote:
I don't like players like Parting, he is not serious nor consistent enough to be the best player out there like Life, Innovation or Flash. But what he is capable of is making upsets, ruining brackets.
Just you watch, how next round this interview aggressor chokes on some middle weight player. yea life is consistent enough to lose 3 times in ro16
Consistent enough to win five major tournaments in five months, as well.
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On May 02 2013 22:28 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:26 Hryul wrote:On May 02 2013 22:24 letian wrote:On May 02 2013 22:10 Darkhoarse wrote:On May 02 2013 22:06 letian wrote:
I don't like players like Parting, he is not serious nor consistent enough to be the best player out there like Life, Innovation or Flash. But what he is capable of is making upsets, ruining brackets.
Just you watch, how next round this interview aggressor chokes on some middle weight player. I agree to an extent. Obviously he is very skilled but I don't like how cocky he is and I don't think he has the fortitude to win a GSL. I also don't think he was top 2 in that group, just a good day for him I guess. I just don't believe he has it. He can surely beat whoever he wants, but he is one of those people types that never deliver when everyone hopes them to just because it is not their "lucky day". For a moment I thought you were talking about Bomber  He delivers ! i promise!
And then the world ends. Because the laws of Einstein bomber are broken.
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This is indeed the best day of Starcraft 2 history, reminds me some of those epic BW days when I was still young.
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On May 02 2013 22:28 Kasaraki wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:27 Wintex wrote:On May 02 2013 22:26 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 02 2013 22:24 Wintex wrote:On May 02 2013 22:22 Dodgin wrote:On May 02 2013 22:21 Wintex wrote:On May 02 2013 22:20 StarStruck wrote:On May 02 2013 22:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 02 2013 22:14 StarStruck wrote:On May 02 2013 22:12 LighT. wrote:
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sHy and Rain were regarded as the next gen bw stars.
Bogus was regarded as the next promising terran although he was constantly teared a new one by Fanta/Flash
Soulkey/ZerO were the new generation of zergs who didnt do the same exact shit every game.
so..mid tier? Far from it.
SK and ZerO were definitely not considered middle of the roaders when PL moved from BW to SC2. As for mid-tier BW players go. I'm surprised he didn't write MVP. Why? when Mvp was winning everything lots of brood war fans kept telling us he was a low tier B teamer. clearly he wasnt mid tier according to them He was mid-tier for the team he was on (eSTRO). eSTRO had one of the worst line-ups akin to that of Air Force ACE thus MVP at that time would be thrown out on a regular basis where he showed some creativity. He was on the A-Team long enough to be considered very mediocre. Wasn't Mvp woongjin terran???? wtf Yeah, that's why Woongjin Terrans are best Terrans in sc2. yeah. I mean he took a game off flash!!!!!!! IN BW!!!! you forgot WITH BATTLECRUISERS!! ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/6/68/IMYamato.jpg) UHHH It's crazy how well his head fits that picture, hahaha. I always love when people modify someone's face onto a random body and it fits near perfectly.
One might even call him captain Yamato.
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On May 02 2013 22:28 Kasaraki wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:27 Wintex wrote:On May 02 2013 22:26 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 02 2013 22:24 Wintex wrote:On May 02 2013 22:22 Dodgin wrote:On May 02 2013 22:21 Wintex wrote:On May 02 2013 22:20 StarStruck wrote:On May 02 2013 22:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 02 2013 22:14 StarStruck wrote:On May 02 2013 22:12 LighT. wrote:
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sHy and Rain were regarded as the next gen bw stars.
Bogus was regarded as the next promising terran although he was constantly teared a new one by Fanta/Flash
Soulkey/ZerO were the new generation of zergs who didnt do the same exact shit every game.
so..mid tier? Far from it.
SK and ZerO were definitely not considered middle of the roaders when PL moved from BW to SC2. As for mid-tier BW players go. I'm surprised he didn't write MVP. Why? when Mvp was winning everything lots of brood war fans kept telling us he was a low tier B teamer. clearly he wasnt mid tier according to them He was mid-tier for the team he was on (eSTRO). eSTRO had one of the worst line-ups akin to that of Air Force ACE thus MVP at that time would be thrown out on a regular basis where he showed some creativity. He was on the A-Team long enough to be considered very mediocre. Wasn't Mvp woongjin terran???? wtf Yeah, that's why Woongjin Terrans are best Terrans in sc2. yeah. I mean he took a game off flash!!!!!!! IN BW!!!! you forgot WITH BATTLECRUISERS!! UHHH It's crazy how well his head fits that picture, hahaha. I always love when people modify someone's face onto a random body and it fits near perfectly.
Then again the guy's palm is as big as his face.
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On May 02 2013 22:32 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:22 Berceno wrote:On May 02 2013 22:06 letian wrote:
I don't like players like Parting, he is not serious nor consistent enough to be the best player out there like Life, Innovation or Flash. But what he is capable of is making upsets, ruining brackets.
Just you watch, how next round this interview aggressor chokes on some middle weight player. yea life is consistent enough to lose 3 times in ro16 Consistent enough to win five major tournaments in five months, as well.
I'd really only count 2. GSLs are the only ones that really count. Still, pretty impressive.
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On May 02 2013 22:34 slowbacontron wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:28 Kasaraki wrote:On May 02 2013 22:27 Wintex wrote:On May 02 2013 22:26 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 02 2013 22:24 Wintex wrote:On May 02 2013 22:22 Dodgin wrote:On May 02 2013 22:21 Wintex wrote:On May 02 2013 22:20 StarStruck wrote:On May 02 2013 22:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 02 2013 22:14 StarStruck wrote:
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SK and ZerO were definitely not considered middle of the roaders when PL moved from BW to SC2. As for mid-tier BW players go. I'm surprised he didn't write MVP. Why? when Mvp was winning everything lots of brood war fans kept telling us he was a low tier B teamer. clearly he wasnt mid tier according to them He was mid-tier for the team he was on (eSTRO). eSTRO had one of the worst line-ups akin to that of Air Force ACE thus MVP at that time would be thrown out on a regular basis where he showed some creativity. He was on the A-Team long enough to be considered very mediocre. Wasn't Mvp woongjin terran???? wtf Yeah, that's why Woongjin Terrans are best Terrans in sc2. yeah. I mean he took a game off flash!!!!!!! IN BW!!!! you forgot WITH BATTLECRUISERS!! UHHH It's crazy how well his head fits that picture, hahaha. I always love when people modify someone's face onto a random body and it fits near perfectly. Then again the guy's palm is as big as his face.
I blame perspective on that one! :D
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Austria24417 Posts
On May 02 2013 22:35 Xpace wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:32 Zealously wrote:On May 02 2013 22:22 Berceno wrote:On May 02 2013 22:06 letian wrote:
I don't like players like Parting, he is not serious nor consistent enough to be the best player out there like Life, Innovation or Flash. But what he is capable of is making upsets, ruining brackets.
Just you watch, how next round this interview aggressor chokes on some middle weight player. yea life is consistent enough to lose 3 times in ro16 Consistent enough to win five major tournaments in five months, as well. I'd really only count 2. GSLs are the only ones that really count. Still, pretty impressive.
Not sure if you saw the MLG, Iron Squid and second MLG lineup.
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Oh wow. Life is out. Didn't watch last set. Too bad.
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Gosh, can't believe there's so much people complaining despite so many extraordinary games and plays =/
The better players today won, it had nothing to do with balance - the only one exception is probably the 2nd game of innovation/flash, but that's a mirror match anyways.
I'm curious about one thing though, during beta a lot of players complained that TvT was all about massing reapers, yet it doesn't seem to be much of a go to build anymore - why is that? Whenever I've watched TvT, it seems like the player going reapers wins majority of the time, could just be a total coincidence on my part though.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On May 02 2013 22:35 Xpace wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:32 Zealously wrote:On May 02 2013 22:22 Berceno wrote:On May 02 2013 22:06 letian wrote:
I don't like players like Parting, he is not serious nor consistent enough to be the best player out there like Life, Innovation or Flash. But what he is capable of is making upsets, ruining brackets.
Just you watch, how next round this interview aggressor chokes on some middle weight player. yea life is consistent enough to lose 3 times in ro16 Consistent enough to win five major tournaments in five months, as well. I'd really only count 2. GSLs are the only ones that really count. Still, pretty impressive.
I might agree with excluding Iron Squid, what with it being online and all that. MLG, though? They're miles tougher than the so-called American GSL is right now, and have comparable lineups to Code S.
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