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On May 02 2013 22:20 sc2superfan101 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:18 Xpace wrote:On May 02 2013 22:12 Darkhoarse wrote:On May 02 2013 22:09 sc2superfan101 wrote:On May 02 2013 22:07 Xpace wrote:On April 30 2013 21:53 Xpace wrote: Overall, best group in the GSL ever, most fun to predict, most fun to see others' predictions ( Life/Flash vote tells me that most people look at stories than statistics), best SC2 experience in 2013 so far. Only in the GGGSL At the time, the statistics kinda favored Life and Flash.... You think voting for Life was an unfounded in statistics? You must be joking... Flash maybe but Life was a very smart vote it just didn't work out for him today. I wanted Innovation/Life to get out the moment I saw the liquibet; but spending 5 minutes on liquipedia and having each players' match history open on a tab, I had Innovation 2-0 and Flash 0-2. PartinG and Life was the brainfuck - the gamble was the first series. I expected PartinG to win that. You're right, though. Life kinda dropped the ball today. Like I said... at the time, Flash was statistically favored to win.
I didn't see this :\ Just by looking at this and playing back his past 10 or so games in my head, I knew he wouldn't get out.
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On May 02 2013 22:15 LighT. wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:14 Killmouse wrote:On May 02 2013 22:12 LighT. wrote:On May 02 2013 22:07 ShroudeD wrote:On May 02 2013 22:04 Kommander wrote:On May 02 2013 22:03 bittman wrote:On May 02 2013 22:02 theMagus wrote:now i'm gonna root for sos to win this season  It's not unlikely. Dude is beasting. I feel we're heading for a Kespa champ this season. One of Innovation, Roro or sOs are my bets. ELEPHANTS  All of them mid tier BW players haha sHy and Rain were regarded as the next gen bw stars. Bogus was regarded as the next promising terran although he was constantly teared a new one by Fanta/Flash Soulkey/ZerO were the new generation of zergs who didnt do the same exact shit every game. so..mid tier? Far from it. he is talking about them obv Innovation, Roro or sOs Bogus = Innovation sOs = shy Roro is the only mid-tier suddenly turned godly like zerg.
dude i know? read the quote mayb
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On May 02 2013 22:22 liberate71 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:20 LighT. wrote:
See whats wrong with Forcefields isnt the skill..
its that its not exciting..
EMP? EXCITING
New Fungal? OMG THEY GOT HIM! Exciting.
Storm? Aoe, damage effect. EXCITING!
Seeker Missile? EXCITING!
Force Fields? Trapping units and crowd control. zzz. EMP is exciting?
When you couple with the fact that its Ghost vs HT, Feedback/EMP battle, yes it is exciting.
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On May 02 2013 22:14 snailz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:05 Prog455 wrote:On May 02 2013 21:59 CikaZombi wrote:
So much Protoss hate always in LR threads :<
Still, best day ever. I guess that's because Protoss is a gimmicky race. It is a bit like when players cheese their way through a tournament. A win is a win, but Forcefield is widely regarded as the most hated and broken ability in the game, and any game that is decided by Forcefields are gonna get a lot of hate. wrong.warpgate mechanic is the most broken ability in the game when it comes to bad game design and protoss in general. forcefield was something that was bitched about when MC was raping JulyZerg waaaaaaay back in the day, since then we came a long way, and most of the people realize the strengths as well as the weaknesses of the spell in question here, and the implications that we'd have by removing it. en tardo adun, whiner
Pretty much. Being able to warp in units at any pylon means that, by necessity, our basic units need to be relatively weak. To compensate for them being weak, our power units(voids, colossi, tempests, templars) need to be very strong. Because we rely on our power units, we flat out die to any sort of early pressure or all in given how much better hydras/roaches/MMM/mass lings are, so we need a method of holding enemies at bay while we tech, namely force fields and now photon overcharge.
Chargelots are probably the only real exception, but that's only if we have a significant upgrade advantage. Otherwise, they just kind of die while running in.
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GSL and WCS should adopt a Bo5 system. Life would never lose.
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On May 02 2013 22:24 FakeDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:22 Berceno wrote:On May 02 2013 22:06 letian wrote:
I don't like players like Parting, he is not serious nor consistent enough to be the best player out there like Life, Innovation or Flash. But what he is capable of is making upsets, ruining brackets.
Just you watch, how next round this interview aggressor chokes on some middle weight player. yea life is consistent enough to lose 3 times in ro16 Don't be butthurt. Life has 2 GSL. Whereas Parting has none.
Don't be butthurt.
Parting advanced.
Whereas Life did not.
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On May 02 2013 22:24 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:17 Prog455 wrote:On May 02 2013 22:14 snailz wrote:On May 02 2013 22:05 Prog455 wrote:On May 02 2013 21:59 CikaZombi wrote:
So much Protoss hate always in LR threads :<
Still, best day ever. I guess that's because Protoss is a gimmicky race. It is a bit like when players cheese their way through a tournament. A win is a win, but Forcefield is widely regarded as the most hated and broken ability in the game, and any game that is decided by Forcefields are gonna get a lot of hate. wrong.warpgate mechanic is the most broken ability in the game when it comes to bad game design and protoss in general. forcefield was something that was bitched about when MC was raping JulyZerg waaaaaaay back in the day, since then we came a long way, and most of the people realize the strengths as well as the weaknesses of the spell in question here, and the implications that we'd have by removing it. en tardo adun, whiner How exactly is it whine to think that a spell that completely neglects micro is a boring spell? I am fairly certain that i am not the only one who believes that there is some inherent flaws in the design of the Protoss race. No one minds the design of the protoss race when it's losing. If we all-in you blame short games If we macro you blame boring turtle If we micro you blame broken design Parting played perfect in these few games. I get that you enjoy zerg more than protoss, but there's no reason why making lings on two bases should be held in higher standard than casting forcefields.
So true... all life did was mass lings on 1/2 bases throughout that series. Damn fuckin right he deserved to loose.
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All these nerds fighting in the forums lol
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On May 02 2013 22:24 FakeDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:22 Berceno wrote:On May 02 2013 22:06 letian wrote:
I don't like players like Parting, he is not serious nor consistent enough to be the best player out there like Life, Innovation or Flash. But what he is capable of is making upsets, ruining brackets.
Just you watch, how next round this interview aggressor chokes on some middle weight player. yea life is consistent enough to lose 3 times in ro16 Don't be butthurt. Life has 2 GSL. Whereas Parting has none.
Life has one GSL.
Parting has one WCS
whereas Life has none.
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On May 02 2013 22:24 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:22 Dodgin wrote:On May 02 2013 22:21 Wintex wrote:On May 02 2013 22:20 StarStruck wrote:On May 02 2013 22:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 02 2013 22:14 StarStruck wrote:On May 02 2013 22:12 LighT. wrote:On May 02 2013 22:07 ShroudeD wrote:On May 02 2013 22:04 Kommander wrote:On May 02 2013 22:03 bittman wrote:
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It's not unlikely. Dude is beasting.
I feel we're heading for a Kespa champ this season. One of Innovation, Roro or sOs are my bets. ELEPHANTS All of them mid tier BW players haha sHy and Rain were regarded as the next gen bw stars. Bogus was regarded as the next promising terran although he was constantly teared a new one by Fanta/Flash Soulkey/ZerO were the new generation of zergs who didnt do the same exact shit every game. so..mid tier? Far from it. SK and ZerO were definitely not considered middle of the roaders when PL moved from BW to SC2. As for mid-tier BW players go. I'm surprised he didn't write MVP. Why? when Mvp was winning everything lots of brood war fans kept telling us he was a low tier B teamer. clearly he wasnt mid tier according to them He was mid-tier for the team he was on (eSTRO). eSTRO had one of the worst line-ups akin to that of Air Force ACE thus MVP at that time would be thrown out on a regular basis where he showed some creativity. He was on the A-Team long enough to be considered very mediocre. Wasn't Mvp woongjin terran???? wtf Yeah, that's why Woongjin Terrans are best Terrans in sc2. yeah. I mean he took a game off flash!!!!!!! IN BW!!!!
you forgot WITH BATTLECRUISERS!!
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On May 02 2013 22:24 letian wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:10 Darkhoarse wrote:On May 02 2013 22:06 letian wrote:
I don't like players like Parting, he is not serious nor consistent enough to be the best player out there like Life, Innovation or Flash. But what he is capable of is making upsets, ruining brackets.
Just you watch, how next round this interview aggressor chokes on some middle weight player. I agree to an extent. Obviously he is very skilled but I don't like how cocky he is and I don't think he has the fortitude to win a GSL. I also don't think he was top 2 in that group, just a good day for him I guess. I just don't believe he has it. He can surely beat whoever he wants, but he is one of those people types that never deliver when everyone hopes them to just because it is not their "lucky day".
For a moment I thought you were talking about Bomber 
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On May 02 2013 22:25 Psychobabas wrote:
All these nerds fighting in the forums lol
This thread is the Internet
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On May 02 2013 22:25 Douillos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:24 Nebuchad wrote:On May 02 2013 22:17 Prog455 wrote:On May 02 2013 22:14 snailz wrote:On May 02 2013 22:05 Prog455 wrote:On May 02 2013 21:59 CikaZombi wrote:
So much Protoss hate always in LR threads :<
Still, best day ever. I guess that's because Protoss is a gimmicky race. It is a bit like when players cheese their way through a tournament. A win is a win, but Forcefield is widely regarded as the most hated and broken ability in the game, and any game that is decided by Forcefields are gonna get a lot of hate. wrong.warpgate mechanic is the most broken ability in the game when it comes to bad game design and protoss in general. forcefield was something that was bitched about when MC was raping JulyZerg waaaaaaay back in the day, since then we came a long way, and most of the people realize the strengths as well as the weaknesses of the spell in question here, and the implications that we'd have by removing it. en tardo adun, whiner How exactly is it whine to think that a spell that completely neglects micro is a boring spell? I am fairly certain that i am not the only one who believes that there is some inherent flaws in the design of the Protoss race. No one minds the design of the protoss race when it's losing. If we all-in you blame short games If we macro you blame boring turtle If we micro you blame broken design Parting played perfect in these few games. I get that you enjoy zerg more than protoss, but there's no reason why making lings on two bases should be held in higher standard than casting forcefields. So true... all life did was mass lings on 1/2 bases throughout that series. Damn fuckin right he deserved to loose.
I agree, he did deserve to lose. I wasn't happy with his strategies in those final matches at all. He did NOT need to do that to win. He is a better player than parting and threw those games away.
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On May 02 2013 22:26 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:24 Wintex wrote:On May 02 2013 22:22 Dodgin wrote:On May 02 2013 22:21 Wintex wrote:On May 02 2013 22:20 StarStruck wrote:On May 02 2013 22:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 02 2013 22:14 StarStruck wrote:On May 02 2013 22:12 LighT. wrote:On May 02 2013 22:07 ShroudeD wrote:On May 02 2013 22:04 Kommander wrote:[quote] ELEPHANTS All of them mid tier BW players haha sHy and Rain were regarded as the next gen bw stars. Bogus was regarded as the next promising terran although he was constantly teared a new one by Fanta/Flash Soulkey/ZerO were the new generation of zergs who didnt do the same exact shit every game. so..mid tier? Far from it. SK and ZerO were definitely not considered middle of the roaders when PL moved from BW to SC2. As for mid-tier BW players go. I'm surprised he didn't write MVP. Why? when Mvp was winning everything lots of brood war fans kept telling us he was a low tier B teamer. clearly he wasnt mid tier according to them He was mid-tier for the team he was on (eSTRO). eSTRO had one of the worst line-ups akin to that of Air Force ACE thus MVP at that time would be thrown out on a regular basis where he showed some creativity. He was on the A-Team long enough to be considered very mediocre. Wasn't Mvp woongjin terran???? wtf Yeah, that's why Woongjin Terrans are best Terrans in sc2. yeah. I mean he took a game off flash!!!!!!! IN BW!!!! you forgot WITH BATTLECRUISERS!!
![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/6/68/IMYamato.jpg)
UHHH
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On May 02 2013 22:26 Hryul wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:24 letian wrote:On May 02 2013 22:10 Darkhoarse wrote:On May 02 2013 22:06 letian wrote:
I don't like players like Parting, he is not serious nor consistent enough to be the best player out there like Life, Innovation or Flash. But what he is capable of is making upsets, ruining brackets.
Just you watch, how next round this interview aggressor chokes on some middle weight player. I agree to an extent. Obviously he is very skilled but I don't like how cocky he is and I don't think he has the fortitude to win a GSL. I also don't think he was top 2 in that group, just a good day for him I guess. I just don't believe he has it. He can surely beat whoever he wants, but he is one of those people types that never deliver when everyone hopes them to just because it is not their "lucky day". For a moment I thought you were talking about Bomber
yeaah, that one...
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On May 02 2013 22:26 Mensol wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:24 FakeDeath wrote:On May 02 2013 22:22 Berceno wrote:On May 02 2013 22:06 letian wrote:
I don't like players like Parting, he is not serious nor consistent enough to be the best player out there like Life, Innovation or Flash. But what he is capable of is making upsets, ruining brackets.
Just you watch, how next round this interview aggressor chokes on some middle weight player. yea life is consistent enough to lose 3 times in ro16 Don't be butthurt. Life has 2 GSL. Whereas Parting has none. Life has one GSL. Parting has one WCS whereas Life has none.
Life has 2 MLGs, IronSquid, GSL, Blizzard Cup (where he beat Parting)
Parting has WCS
Life is clearly the more consistent player. Parting advanced today and good for him, but let's not kid ourselves here.
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On May 02 2013 22:26 Mensol wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:24 FakeDeath wrote:On May 02 2013 22:22 Berceno wrote:On May 02 2013 22:06 letian wrote:
I don't like players like Parting, he is not serious nor consistent enough to be the best player out there like Life, Innovation or Flash. But what he is capable of is making upsets, ruining brackets.
Just you watch, how next round this interview aggressor chokes on some middle weight player. yea life is consistent enough to lose 3 times in ro16 Don't be butthurt. Life has 2 GSL. Whereas Parting has none. Life has one GSL. Parting has one WCS whereas Life has none.
lololol you win
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On May 02 2013 22:27 Wintex wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:26 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 02 2013 22:24 Wintex wrote:On May 02 2013 22:22 Dodgin wrote:On May 02 2013 22:21 Wintex wrote:On May 02 2013 22:20 StarStruck wrote:On May 02 2013 22:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:On May 02 2013 22:14 StarStruck wrote:On May 02 2013 22:12 LighT. wrote:On May 02 2013 22:07 ShroudeD wrote:
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All of them mid tier BW players haha sHy and Rain were regarded as the next gen bw stars. Bogus was regarded as the next promising terran although he was constantly teared a new one by Fanta/Flash Soulkey/ZerO were the new generation of zergs who didnt do the same exact shit every game. so..mid tier? Far from it. SK and ZerO were definitely not considered middle of the roaders when PL moved from BW to SC2. As for mid-tier BW players go. I'm surprised he didn't write MVP. Why? when Mvp was winning everything lots of brood war fans kept telling us he was a low tier B teamer. clearly he wasnt mid tier according to them He was mid-tier for the team he was on (eSTRO). eSTRO had one of the worst line-ups akin to that of Air Force ACE thus MVP at that time would be thrown out on a regular basis where he showed some creativity. He was on the A-Team long enough to be considered very mediocre. Wasn't Mvp woongjin terran???? wtf Yeah, that's why Woongjin Terrans are best Terrans in sc2. yeah. I mean he took a game off flash!!!!!!! IN BW!!!! you forgot WITH BATTLECRUISERS!! UHHH
It's crazy how well his head fits that picture, hahaha. I always love when people modify someone's face onto a random body and it fits near perfectly.
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On May 02 2013 22:26 Hryul wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:24 letian wrote:On May 02 2013 22:10 Darkhoarse wrote:On May 02 2013 22:06 letian wrote:
I don't like players like Parting, he is not serious nor consistent enough to be the best player out there like Life, Innovation or Flash. But what he is capable of is making upsets, ruining brackets.
Just you watch, how next round this interview aggressor chokes on some middle weight player. I agree to an extent. Obviously he is very skilled but I don't like how cocky he is and I don't think he has the fortitude to win a GSL. I also don't think he was top 2 in that group, just a good day for him I guess. I just don't believe he has it. He can surely beat whoever he wants, but he is one of those people types that never deliver when everyone hopes them to just because it is not their "lucky day". For a moment I thought you were talking about Bomber
He delivers ! i promise!
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On May 02 2013 22:24 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2013 22:17 Prog455 wrote:On May 02 2013 22:14 snailz wrote:On May 02 2013 22:05 Prog455 wrote:On May 02 2013 21:59 CikaZombi wrote:
So much Protoss hate always in LR threads :<
Still, best day ever. I guess that's because Protoss is a gimmicky race. It is a bit like when players cheese their way through a tournament. A win is a win, but Forcefield is widely regarded as the most hated and broken ability in the game, and any game that is decided by Forcefields are gonna get a lot of hate. wrong.warpgate mechanic is the most broken ability in the game when it comes to bad game design and protoss in general. forcefield was something that was bitched about when MC was raping JulyZerg waaaaaaay back in the day, since then we came a long way, and most of the people realize the strengths as well as the weaknesses of the spell in question here, and the implications that we'd have by removing it. en tardo adun, whiner How exactly is it whine to think that a spell that completely neglects micro is a boring spell? I am fairly certain that i am not the only one who believes that there is some inherent flaws in the design of the Protoss race. No one minds the design of the protoss race when it's losing. If we all-in you blame short games If we macro you blame boring turtle If we micro you blame broken design Parting played perfect in these few games. I get that you enjoy zerg more than protoss, but there's no reason why making lings on two bases should be held in higher standard than casting forcefields.
Everything you say is correct. Parting played very good against Life. And i agree that people see Protoss in the way you just explain. Atleast i do anyway. But i simply think that Protoss is badly designed race, and it find it incredibly boring to watch compared to Terran or Zerg.
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