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On April 10 2013 15:22 pmp10 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2013 15:20 sitromit wrote:On April 10 2013 15:16 pmp10 wrote:On April 10 2013 15:13 Dodgin wrote:
Can you guys blame him for not taking a seed into Code S EU? You would have to be pretty dumb to refuse that. Even if Naniwa tried to qualify for GSL instead he wouldn't have any chance of participating in season 1 regionals and finals. It's the same reason so many Code B/A Koreans are going to take seeds to WCS NA/EU because if they don't they're totally fucked. That's assuming there will be plenty of seeds for Koreans in other regions. The most deserving are staying in Code S and the rest rarely plays abroad. Look at the top 50 of NA GM. Now tell me if Revival, JYP, Oz etc won't be offered some of those 24 seeds if they declare that they choose NA as their region. Why should they? Seeds should be distributed according to accomplishments in the region or top 50 seeds would always go to Koreans.
The way they made it, they better give seeds to players deserving. Koreans are superior and if you 'FORCE' them to switch region, because you screwed them to begin with, you better give out seeds to them. Ofcourse there is no measurement for 'skill' in giving out seeds, but seeds usually go along with common sense. Why would you invite a rather successful NA player when the Korean you could invite is easily superior and would be not just more successful but also more entertaining in terms of games?
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opterown
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EG needs to give coach park a holiday home in america, suddenly NA most competitive server
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On April 10 2013 15:15 Dodgin wrote:
Blizzard making GSL Season 2 Code S the first season of WCS KR is seriously one of the worst decisions they have ever made, if you're in Korea and not in Code S this season you're completely screwed for the first WCS season.
And none of them even knew how screwed they were until a week ago. Anyone who has the chance to will take a seed into Code S in another region to keep up on points and get a chance at some big money for the regional and seasonal finals.
That's standard Blizzard for you. 
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On April 10 2013 15:23 Seiniyta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2013 15:18 Type|NarutO wrote:On April 10 2013 15:13 Dodgin wrote:
Can you guys blame him for not taking a seed into Code S EU? You would have to be pretty dumb to refuse that. Even if Naniwa tried to qualify for GSL instead he wouldn't have any chance of participating in season 1 regionals and finals. It's the same reason so many Code B/A Koreans are going to take seeds to WCS NA/EU because if they don't they're totally fucked. I don't blame him as its his best shot as progamer to earn money, which is completely reasonable. I said I disrespect the bold statement he made according to stay in Korea, because he doesn't care about the money and just wants to proof how good he is. It was nothing but empty talk for that matter. I get along with him well, I support him and I understand his decision, but maybe next time you put thought into it, before making such a bold statement ;-) He had said that the WCS ruined his plans on twitter. Also, a quote from his fanclub thread: Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 23:59 Naniwa wrote:i went on a big rant ? i just thought the idea was pretty bad for alot of people. personally i would like nothing more than to play GSL, but to sacrifise a WCS europe seed, for the sake of playing the code a QUALIFIER. that would be very stupid. I am not some person who just charges on without logic and only by heart like some of you think heh. i used to be alot more hot blooded in the past. but i dont say things i dont mean very often. i am still going to go to korea after WCS europe to continue practising  I am not giving up hope of becoming the best i can be. if i did i would say so and i probably wouldnt play the game anymore sorry to those i dissapointed.
As said, fully reasonable and understandable decision. I am happy he at least sticks with Korea as his training place. Thanks for quoting, didn't know
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If I was Nani, I would probably just stay in Korea and try to get into StarTales house again or something similar. Code S preparation won't be done better outside of Korea. Lag is an issue, but with the best help in the world? it should be fine.
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Lag from KR to EU is really bad, I can't even imagine playing in an important match with lag as protoss. It's such a fragile race in the early game if you miss a forcefield you might just be dead.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On April 10 2013 15:24 opterown wrote:i think harrier was a noshow
So what you're saying is that literally an entire half of a bracket no showed.
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I'm just looking at the bracket on liquipedia. Why so many W? No show everywhere? oO
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On April 10 2013 15:29 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2013 15:24 opterown wrote:On April 10 2013 15:23 2xNoodle wrote:
Any news on YugiOh vs Harrier? i think harrier was a noshow So what you're saying is that literally an entire half of a bracket no showed.
yup
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Are they all going to NA?
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On April 10 2013 15:29 SChlafmann wrote:
I'm just looking at the bracket on liquipedia. Why so many W? No show everywhere? oO
Everyone moving to NA #AmericanDream #LandOfOpportunity
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On April 10 2013 15:24 Type|NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2013 15:22 pmp10 wrote:On April 10 2013 15:20 sitromit wrote:On April 10 2013 15:16 pmp10 wrote:On April 10 2013 15:13 Dodgin wrote:
Can you guys blame him for not taking a seed into Code S EU? You would have to be pretty dumb to refuse that. Even if Naniwa tried to qualify for GSL instead he wouldn't have any chance of participating in season 1 regionals and finals. It's the same reason so many Code B/A Koreans are going to take seeds to WCS NA/EU because if they don't they're totally fucked. That's assuming there will be plenty of seeds for Koreans in other regions. The most deserving are staying in Code S and the rest rarely plays abroad. Look at the top 50 of NA GM. Now tell me if Revival, JYP, Oz etc won't be offered some of those 24 seeds if they declare that they choose NA as their region. Why should they? Seeds should be distributed according to accomplishments in the region or top 50 seeds would always go to Koreans. The way they made it, they better give seeds to players deserving. Koreans are superior and if you 'FORCE' them to switch region, because you screwed them to begin with, you better give out seeds to them. Ofcourse there is no measurement for 'skill' in giving out seeds, but seeds usually go along with common sense. Why would you invite a rather successful NA player when the Korean you could invite is easily superior and would be not just more successful but also more entertaining in terms of games?
Because it invalidates any point of regional separation.
Just put all that money in more Korean events if top level play is all you want.
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Notable players eliminated might also include EG.JYP and Aphrodite.
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On April 10 2013 15:29 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2013 15:29 Fusilero wrote:On April 10 2013 15:24 opterown wrote:On April 10 2013 15:23 2xNoodle wrote:
Any news on YugiOh vs Harrier? i think harrier was a noshow So what you're saying is that literally an entire half of a bracket no showed. yup
They should have put Artosis in that bracket ^^
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On April 10 2013 15:33 Ghanburighan wrote:
Notable players eliminated might also include EG.JYP and Aphrodite.
JYP didn't play.
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On April 10 2013 15:29 SChlafmann wrote:
I'm just looking at the bracket on liquipedia. Why so many W? No show everywhere? oO
some are, others are just the score not being known
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On April 10 2013 15:31 pmp10 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2013 15:24 Type|NarutO wrote:On April 10 2013 15:22 pmp10 wrote:On April 10 2013 15:20 sitromit wrote:On April 10 2013 15:16 pmp10 wrote:On April 10 2013 15:13 Dodgin wrote:
Can you guys blame him for not taking a seed into Code S EU? You would have to be pretty dumb to refuse that. Even if Naniwa tried to qualify for GSL instead he wouldn't have any chance of participating in season 1 regionals and finals. It's the same reason so many Code B/A Koreans are going to take seeds to WCS NA/EU because if they don't they're totally fucked. That's assuming there will be plenty of seeds for Koreans in other regions. The most deserving are staying in Code S and the rest rarely plays abroad. Look at the top 50 of NA GM. Now tell me if Revival, JYP, Oz etc won't be offered some of those 24 seeds if they declare that they choose NA as their region. Why should they? Seeds should be distributed according to accomplishments in the region or top 50 seeds would always go to Koreans. The way they made it, they better give seeds to players deserving. Koreans are superior and if you 'FORCE' them to switch region, because you screwed them to begin with, you better give out seeds to them. Ofcourse there is no measurement for 'skill' in giving out seeds, but seeds usually go along with common sense. Why would you invite a rather successful NA player when the Korean you could invite is easily superior and would be not just more successful but also more entertaining in terms of games? Because it invalidates any point of regional separation. Just put all that money in more Korean events if top level play is all you want.
How does it invalidate any point of regional seperation? Your point would invalidate and nearly 'ban' based on origin (as mentioned in another thread). How can a player living and playing in Korea potentially be more accomplished in NA than a player from NA could be? Its flat out excusing and counting out the Koreans.
Also, if certain Koreans come over, they are MORE accomplished in MLG, NASL. .. and what not. What do you want to count towards achievements? Playhem Daily?
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oh shit Iris actually plays!!!
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Mr. Chae reminding Khaldor, he's da bouse.
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They should really let KeSPa handle the commercials, their production for intros & such is so much better, even though the small GSL add is not bad
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