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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12907 Posts
March 07 2013 15:50 GMT
#2521
On March 08 2013 00:49 Stiluz wrote:
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On March 08 2013 00:46 sitromit wrote:
EGStephano ‏@EGStephanoRC

I am totally lost against Terran. Impossible to attack with tanks and mines. Impossible to leave your base with Medivacs.


Yeah, this. I was looking forward to Zerg's HotS multiplayer, but in light of the stale Zerg options to attack , I'm switching from Zerg to Terran.

And you will switch back to zerg once it becomes the most powerful race yet again?
WriterMaru
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 07 2013 15:50 GMT
#2522
On March 08 2013 00:46 sitromit wrote:
EGStephano ‏@EGStephanoRC

I am totally lost against Terran. Impossible to attack with tanks and mines. Impossible to leave your base with Medivacs.


Confess that you haven't practiced HoTS -> play one game -> Claim terran is impossible to win against.

...

And because it's Stephano, ten thousand fans will now endlessly repeat that terran is impossible. *sigh*
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
March 07 2013 15:50 GMT
#2523
On March 08 2013 00:49 sitromit wrote:
Grubby: "I think HotS is more my game"



Apply water to burned area
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
March 07 2013 15:50 GMT
#2524
On March 08 2013 00:49 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 00:46 Leetley wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:42 Heartland wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:41 Type|NarutO wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:40 Leetley wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:39 m0ck wrote:
Simply removing automatic siege-mode for terran would help a lot with making terran vulnerable after making big head-on attacks like the hellion-attack.

Yup, I think they need to re-add the siege research.


I really don't think the tank needed that buff to begin with :x I mean, why? And I'm Terran.


To hold off early Zerg roach attacks I think is the reasoning.

Good luck to all the zergs trying to punish terran when they have mines in place AND sieged tanks behind all their depots and whatnot.


New standard will be 3x orbital in the early game i think, zerg will have real trouble punishing Terran greed now.


nothing new it's already the standard.
just no more stupid roach pushes
Zest fanboy.
Swordland
Profile Joined March 2013
232 Posts
March 07 2013 15:51 GMT
#2525
Could someone please tell me what MVP did to 2-0 stephano? mech/bio, etc.?
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-07 15:52:30
March 07 2013 15:51 GMT
#2526
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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
March 07 2013 15:51 GMT
#2527
On March 08 2013 00:50 Leetley wrote:
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On March 08 2013 00:48 SiroKO wrote:
Zerg players seem to be unaccustomed to lose that badly.
This says more about WoL balance than HoTS imo.

Terrans have more freedom which is great and it also shows.


Zerg has less freedom which is bad and it also shows.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
March 07 2013 15:51 GMT
#2528
On March 08 2013 00:47 aidosae wrote:
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On March 08 2013 00:46 Destructicon wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:37 MrCash wrote:
LG-IM 1st place in 3 of 4 groups, every LG-IM player advances (except MC, if you want to count).
3 of the top 4 places will likely be taken by LG-IM as well.
Quite the impressive showing.

Very pleasant to see MVP doing well.


Happy for LG-IM, proving to LG that continuing the sponsorship was a good idea.

is mvp first in this group? if he loses 0:2 to tlo and dream wins 2:0 against stephano, isnt he first? :S

I didn't even do the math but he is definitely first in his group because there's literally no way he will lose 0:2 to TLO.
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
March 07 2013 15:51 GMT
#2529
On March 08 2013 00:48 Caletor wrote:
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On March 08 2013 00:47 Tsubbi wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:46 Fjodorov wrote:
Here we go again, Mvp nerfing terran all by himself.


not really lol, top10 gm in hots beta was like 7 terrans and every pro knows that changes are needed for zvt


even all pros in every interview say zerg is the weakest and terran the strongest. I dont see how anyone can deny it either...


whos denying? the exact same thing happened for the last year or WoL, everyone KNEW how zergs were stronger and nothing was done to stop it...terrans get a good time in BETA and we're back to zerg tears 24/7?
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
March 07 2013 15:51 GMT
#2530
On March 08 2013 00:49 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 00:47 Ryps wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:46 sitromit wrote:
EGStephano ‏@EGStephanoRC

I am totally lost against Terran. Impossible to attack with tanks and mines. Impossible to leave your base with Medivacs.

David Kim, undo something ! hah


Either that or build some base defense against drops.


And I think vipers are the answer for breaking siege lines.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
March 07 2013 15:52 GMT
#2531
On March 08 2013 00:51 Swordland wrote:
Could someone please tell me what MVP did to 2-0 stephano? mech/bio, etc.?


Pure bio first game.

Pure bio mixed with mines second game.

Play your best
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
March 07 2013 15:52 GMT
#2532
On March 08 2013 00:48 Caletor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 00:47 Tsubbi wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:46 Fjodorov wrote:
Here we go again, Mvp nerfing terran all by himself.


not really lol, top10 gm in hots beta was like 7 terrans and every pro knows that changes are needed for zvt


even all pros in every interview say zerg is the weakest and terran the strongest. I dont see how anyone can deny it either...

I think it's entirely to early to really say anything yet. Zergs are still so used to the ez mode they had in WoL to be brutally honest. Give the top zergs some more time to work with the new units and changes. If in 1-2 months after release Zerg are getting stomped out, then call imba.

Players whining about balance and crying for blizzard to nerf/buff to early/quickly is what led WoL to it's troubles near the end. Give time for players to figure shit out and learn how to actually counter things before saying which race is weak and which isn't.
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
March 07 2013 15:52 GMT
#2533
On the plus side, at least the tournament has fairly even race distribution progressing (I imagine Mvp, Stephano and Dream will advance) so we'll see a good range of matchups in the bracket.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
March 07 2013 15:52 GMT
#2534
On March 08 2013 00:48 Caletor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 00:47 Tsubbi wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:46 Fjodorov wrote:
Here we go again, Mvp nerfing terran all by himself.


not really lol, top10 gm in hots beta was like 7 terrans and every pro knows that changes are needed for zvt


even all pros in every interview say zerg is the weakest and terran the strongest. I dont see how anyone can deny it either...


But all the pros also mentioned that zergs will have to try adjusting first. Banelings seemed OP as hell before terrans learnt to split.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12024 Posts
March 07 2013 15:52 GMT
#2535
On March 08 2013 00:51 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 00:50 Leetley wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:48 SiroKO wrote:
Zerg players seem to be unaccustomed to lose that badly.
This says more about WoL balance than HoTS imo.

Terrans have more freedom which is great and it also shows.


Zerg has less freedom which is bad and it also shows.


I wouldn't call sitting on 3 bases with 100 drones and no units a good amount of freedom to have for the game.

They've got plenty of freedom, they've just got to stop being so damn greedy and build base defenses or get lair tech for hydras quicker.
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sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
March 07 2013 15:52 GMT
#2536
On March 08 2013 00:51 monkybone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 00:49 Lysanias wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:46 Leetley wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:42 Heartland wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:41 Type|NarutO wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:40 Leetley wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:39 m0ck wrote:
Simply removing automatic siege-mode for terran would help a lot with making terran vulnerable after making big head-on attacks like the hellion-attack.

Yup, I think they need to re-add the siege research.


I really don't think the tank needed that buff to begin with :x I mean, why? And I'm Terran.


To hold off early Zerg roach attacks I think is the reasoning.

Good luck to all the zergs trying to punish terran when they have mines in place AND sieged tanks behind all their depots and whatnot.


New standard will be 3x orbital in the early game i think, zerg will have real trouble punishing Terran greed now.


Terran has been unable to punish Zerg greed for almost a year now.

Zerg will have to come up with something new to punish terran greed now, not just mass up one unit, attack and expect GG. During the 1/1/1 all in period v P Terran at least had to do some work for their win.


So Terran was unable to punish Zerg greed, but Zerg needs to be able to punish Terran greed? Your bias is showing through your tough exterior hide : )
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
eXeZerg
Profile Joined February 2013
95 Posts
March 07 2013 15:52 GMT
#2537
On March 08 2013 00:47 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 00:45 eXeZerg wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:39 m0ck wrote:
Simply removing automatic siege-mode for terran would help a lot with making terran vulnerable after making big head-on attacks like the hellion-attack.


This... Terran is simply too safe after carelessly losing reapers/hellions with their free siege more and widow mines.
I love it that terran can put some pressure on early game again, but zerg should be able to counter pressure

Killing 19 Drones = "carelessly losing Reapers/Hellions" ?


Those were a lot of units Mvp sacked to do that, in cost at least just as much as 19 drones.
Since he lost all those units and Stephano made so much roaches he should be at least do a bit of damage back, because Mvp can do that pressure and still go for greedy 3 cc's and double ups early.
But 4 mines and a siege tank hold of 15 roaches quite easy.
In WoL mvp would have had to lift his nat to hold that probably
Elairec
Profile Joined June 2011
United States410 Posts
March 07 2013 15:52 GMT
#2538
Why all the grubby hate =\
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
March 07 2013 15:52 GMT
#2539
On March 08 2013 00:50 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 00:46 sitromit wrote:
EGStephano ‏@EGStephanoRC

I am totally lost against Terran. Impossible to attack with tanks and mines. Impossible to leave your base with Medivacs.


Confess that you haven't practiced HoTS -> play one game -> Claim terran is impossible to win against.

...

And because it's Stephano, ten thousand fans will now endlessly repeat that terran is impossible. *sigh*

He was already saying this after he practiced the beta few weeks ago .
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
March 07 2013 15:53 GMT
#2540
On March 08 2013 00:49 suicideyear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 00:47 Ryps wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:46 sitromit wrote:
EGStephano ‏@EGStephanoRC

I am totally lost against Terran. Impossible to attack with tanks and mines. Impossible to leave your base with Medivacs.

David Kim, undo something ! hah


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