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EZSkull
Profile Joined March 2011
United States230 Posts
March 07 2013 15:55 GMT
#2561
That might have been the worst intro to a player.. ever
“I can discredit the K-1 with two syllables. Bob Sapp.” - Sonnen(R)
Destructicon
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
4713 Posts
March 07 2013 15:55 GMT
#2562
On March 08 2013 00:43 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 00:39 aidosae wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:37 sitromit wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:36 Qikz wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:35 sitromit wrote:
Vipers are useless against bio/mine. Even if they hadn't died, it wouldn't have made a difference.


Are you insane? Blinding Cloud wrecks bio. Watch the games yesterday.


LOL... All bio needs to do is move out of the cloud. If Stephano follows, his army goes into his own cloud.

not only that... the units will move out of the cloud without you doing anything at all... can someone confirm that its still the case?

The units will move forward, which is good for the zerg as they will come into melee range with roaches, leaving part of the bio army still under the cloud.

The correct response as terran is to kite back ASAP, but it usually results in taking a few free hits from the hydras anyway. This makes vipers a huge help in roach/hydra vs bio, both in battles and as a zoning tool.


If you're going pure bio and mines, you could, you know, burrow some mines behind your bio, this also assures they won't be triggered since overlords and overseers will die above a cloud of bio. Once the terran's bio gets coated by blinding clouds you kite back behind the mines and if the zerg pursues he gets shot in the face by several mines worth of aoe. You rinse and repeat until the zerg is either out of energy or out of units.
WriterNever give up, never surrender! https://www.youtube.com/user/DestructiconSC
padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
March 07 2013 15:55 GMT
#2563
On March 08 2013 00:52 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
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On March 08 2013 00:48 Caletor wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:47 Tsubbi wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:46 Fjodorov wrote:
Here we go again, Mvp nerfing terran all by himself.


not really lol, top10 gm in hots beta was like 7 terrans and every pro knows that changes are needed for zvt


even all pros in every interview say zerg is the weakest and terran the strongest. I dont see how anyone can deny it either...

I think it's entirely to early to really say anything yet. Zergs are still so used to the ez mode they had in WoL to be brutally honest. Give the top zergs some more time to work with the new units and changes. If in 1-2 months after release Zerg are getting stomped out, then call imba.

Players whining about balance and crying for blizzard to nerf/buff to early/quickly is what led WoL to it's troubles near the end. Give time for players to figure shit out and learn how to actually counter things before saying which race is weak and which isn't.


Right now I just feel like HoTS improved what terran used/needed to use - Drops were always a signature of terran, medevac boost (too fast/CD too low IMO) effectively improved that. A controller/trap type from broodwar, and a proper mobile light aoe similar to firebat.....while other races got funky units that felt rather odd and hard to use/get used to
Stop procrastinating
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
March 07 2013 15:55 GMT
#2564
--- Nuked ---
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33488 Posts
March 07 2013 15:55 GMT
#2565
On March 08 2013 00:55 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
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On March 08 2013 00:52 Elairec wrote:
Why all the grubby hate =\

Cause he takes the spots away from (potential) good players.


they should have played better in the IEM season then -_-
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
March 07 2013 15:55 GMT
#2566
I like Stephano, I really do and he advanced so I'm happy. Now I think Dream is even better in early game than MVP in his builds/abuse. I think he will crush Stephano :x
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
wangstra
Profile Joined March 2011
922 Posts
March 07 2013 15:55 GMT
#2567
On March 08 2013 00:50 Ghanburighan wrote:
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On March 08 2013 00:46 sitromit wrote:
EGStephano ‏@EGStephanoRC

I am totally lost against Terran. Impossible to attack with tanks and mines. Impossible to leave your base with Medivacs.


Confess that you haven't practiced HoTS -> play one game -> Claim terran is impossible to win against.

...

And because it's Stephano, ten thousand fans will now endlessly repeat that terran is impossible. *sigh*


I wonder if more aggressive use of zerg tunnel coupled with early overlord speed might be an answer.
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
March 07 2013 15:55 GMT
#2568
in groupstage, outside of Ret going forward before First and MC and maybe Mana before Sting, no real surprises so far
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-07 15:56:33
March 07 2013 15:55 GMT
#2569
And rachel starting with : "do you think it's a fair match-up?"

Terran & Potato Salad.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-07 15:56:13
March 07 2013 15:56 GMT
#2570
On March 08 2013 00:54 Warpish wrote:
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On March 08 2013 00:53 DOUDOU wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:49 suicideyear wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:47 Ryps wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:46 sitromit wrote:
EGStephano ‏@EGStephanoRC

I am totally lost against Terran. Impossible to attack with tanks and mines. Impossible to leave your base with Medivacs.

David Kim, undo something ! hah


give broodlords afterburners!

give banelings afterbruners!


give hidralisks blue flame...


Make interceptors into void rays.
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 07 2013 15:56 GMT
#2571
On March 08 2013 00:52 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 00:48 Caletor wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:47 Tsubbi wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:46 Fjodorov wrote:
Here we go again, Mvp nerfing terran all by himself.


not really lol, top10 gm in hots beta was like 7 terrans and every pro knows that changes are needed for zvt


even all pros in every interview say zerg is the weakest and terran the strongest. I dont see how anyone can deny it either...

I think it's entirely to early to really say anything yet. Zergs are still so used to the ez mode they had in WoL to be brutally honest. Give the top zergs some more time to work with the new units and changes. If in 1-2 months after release Zerg are getting stomped out, then call imba.

Players whining about balance and crying for blizzard to nerf/buff to early/quickly is what led WoL to it's troubles near the end. Give time for players to figure shit out and learn how to actually counter things before saying which race is weak and which isn't.


Still, besides Stephano (in zvp) no zerg said zerg was OP in wol, but now terrans are sayinng terran is OP already. But I agree that blizz should wait.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
wangstra
Profile Joined March 2011
922 Posts
March 07 2013 15:56 GMT
#2572
BURN on steph lol.
padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
March 07 2013 15:56 GMT
#2573
wtf Stephano "One leg dwarf .." *stares too hard at girl* "...erm...."
Stop procrastinating
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
March 07 2013 15:56 GMT
#2574
SEXIST SELTZER
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
March 07 2013 15:56 GMT
#2575
Stephano confirmed one legged dwarf athlete
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Tayar
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1439 Posts
March 07 2013 15:56 GMT
#2576
lol, token female caster just chopped off stephano's balls.
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
March 07 2013 15:56 GMT
#2577
Stephano balance whining... Lol. Dat tact.
Snusmumriken
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden1717 Posts
March 07 2013 15:56 GMT
#2578
One-legged dwarf haha
Amove for Aiur
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12905 Posts
March 07 2013 15:56 GMT
#2579
On March 08 2013 00:54 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 00:52 Qikz wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:51 Big J wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:50 Leetley wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:48 SiroKO wrote:
Zerg players seem to be unaccustomed to lose that badly.
This says more about WoL balance than HoTS imo.

Terrans have more freedom which is great and it also shows.


Zerg has less freedom which is bad and it also shows.


I wouldn't call sitting on 3 bases with 100 drones and no units a good amount of freedom to have for the game.

They've got plenty of freedom, they've just got to stop being so damn greedy and build base defenses or get lair tech for hydras quicker.


Yeah, just as much as Terran in WoL

It's astonishing how you persist showing how little you know about the game.
Keep trying.
WriterMaru
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-07 15:57:15
March 07 2013 15:56 GMT
#2580
"I'd call him Dreamy, but he's only 16 so I'll just call him Dream". Amazing.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
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