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Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
March 07 2013 15:47 GMT
#2501
On March 08 2013 00:44 Mouzone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 00:43 LittLeD wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:38 Mouzone wrote:
How was game 1 of Dream vs. Grubby anyone?

A slaughter, unfortunately :&


That's a shame. Grubby is just getting battered in this group it seems.


If he's defeated 0-2 by Golden, he will have placed last in the group stages.
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
Deleted User 245622
Profile Joined January 2012
184 Posts
March 07 2013 15:47 GMT
#2502
On March 08 2013 00:46 Destructicon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 00:37 MrCash wrote:
LG-IM 1st place in 3 of 4 groups, every LG-IM player advances (except MC, if you want to count).
3 of the top 4 places will likely be taken by LG-IM as well.
Quite the impressive showing.

Very pleasant to see MVP doing well.


Happy for LG-IM, proving to LG that continuing the sponsorship was a good idea.

is mvp first in this group? if he loses 0:2 to tlo and dream wins 2:0 against stephano, isnt he first? :S
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
March 07 2013 15:47 GMT
#2503
On March 08 2013 00:46 Fjodorov wrote:
Here we go again, Mvp nerfing terran all by himself.


not really lol, top10 gm in hots beta was like 7 terrans and every pro knows that changes are needed for zvt
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
March 07 2013 15:48 GMT
#2504
On March 08 2013 00:45 Nick! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 00:44 Asha` wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:43 Type|NarutO wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:42 Heartland wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:41 Type|NarutO wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:40 Leetley wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:39 m0ck wrote:
Simply removing automatic siege-mode for terran would help a lot with making terran vulnerable after making big head-on attacks like the hellion-attack.

Yup, I think they need to re-add the siege research.


I really don't think the tank needed that buff to begin with :x I mean, why? And I'm Terran.


To hold off early Zerg roach attacks I think is the reasoning.


Are roaches buffed? Can you get them quicker than before? If not, there is no reason, you can hold roach rushes off just fine right now.


I thought the reason behind it was to make mech/tech builds better in TvP o-o


Nobody will ever go mech TvP with the new medivacs


You somehow missed that Hellbats get healed by medivacs?
SiroKO
Profile Joined February 2012
France721 Posts
March 07 2013 15:48 GMT
#2505
Zerg players seem to be unaccustomed to lose that badly.
This says more about WoL balance than HoTS imo.
Our envy always last longer than the happiness of those we envy
Caletor
Profile Joined March 2013
32 Posts
March 07 2013 15:48 GMT
#2506
On March 08 2013 00:47 Tsubbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 00:46 Fjodorov wrote:
Here we go again, Mvp nerfing terran all by himself.


not really lol, top10 gm in hots beta was like 7 terrans and every pro knows that changes are needed for zvt


even all pros in every interview say zerg is the weakest and terran the strongest. I dont see how anyone can deny it either...
padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-07 15:49:30
March 07 2013 15:48 GMT
#2507
On March 08 2013 00:45 habeck wrote:
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On March 08 2013 00:42 vthree wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:37 syroz wrote:
wow MVP is really aware of HOTS metagame. Stephano cant improvise successfully against that


Well, Mvp also developed a lot of the WoL metagame along with a couple other top korea terrans. He was one of the first to show how to macro and expand safely vs 2 base play that was very common in early 2011. Early bunker play vs zerg. He also showed the power of mass ghosts both in vP (EMP) and vZ (snipes). Was the top meching player in TvT, showed more BC play than any other terran, going hellion/banshee after the Queen buff. I could go on and on.


At the start he was one of the best marine tank players, but as time passed, he started meching more and more.


He wasnt just the BEST marine tank player. His uncanny timing pushes and perfect control with them were so surgically destroying against any zerg it was fucking inspiring. It made all the other terrans look like shit when they control the same army. Even when it was Mvp vs Nestea back in '11 his crazy 2 tank timing push made tastostis and the rest of the viewers look on with disbelief...such balls, its never going to work...and then he absolutely destroys nestea with it.

He created MAGIC with marine tank. He created magic so fucking hard with marine tank his wrists died with it

I really want to read a full TLFE that truly properly writes just how much he changed and inspired the terran race
Stop procrastinating
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
March 07 2013 15:48 GMT
#2508
On March 08 2013 00:46 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
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On March 08 2013 00:41 sitromit wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:39 aidosae wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:37 sitromit wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:36 Qikz wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:35 sitromit wrote:
Vipers are useless against bio/mine. Even if they hadn't died, it wouldn't have made a difference.


Are you insane? Blinding Cloud wrecks bio. Watch the games yesterday.


LOL... All bio needs to do is move out of the cloud. If Stephano follows, his army goes into his own cloud.

not only that... the units will move out of the cloud without you doing anything at all... can someone confirm that its still the case?

Yes, they automatically move out and keep firing.

They a move in closer to the roach hydra army -.- it's not like they micro themselves backwards out of it... Bio a moving in close to roach hydra will get stomped. Plus the two-seconds of all those units not firing and giving dps is also good. Plus you can use blinding cloud to zone out areas in the battle and force a bad concave for your opponent..

Saying Vipers are useless against bio is just a bad statement. Vipers can be effective against pretty much any composition if used right.


Yeah. It is like fungal. Sure, it is better vs bio. But that was because it is devastating against bio while being merely good vs mech.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
March 07 2013 15:49 GMT
#2509
Grubby: "I think HotS is more my game"


Stiluz
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway688 Posts
March 07 2013 15:49 GMT
#2510
On March 08 2013 00:46 sitromit wrote:
EGStephano ‏@EGStephanoRC

I am totally lost against Terran. Impossible to attack with tanks and mines. Impossible to leave your base with Medivacs.


Yeah, this. I was looking forward to Zerg's HotS multiplayer, but in light of the stale Zerg options to attack , I'm switching from Zerg to Terran.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
March 07 2013 15:49 GMT
#2511
On March 08 2013 00:46 Leetley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 00:42 Heartland wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:41 Type|NarutO wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:40 Leetley wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:39 m0ck wrote:
Simply removing automatic siege-mode for terran would help a lot with making terran vulnerable after making big head-on attacks like the hellion-attack.

Yup, I think they need to re-add the siege research.


I really don't think the tank needed that buff to begin with :x I mean, why? And I'm Terran.


To hold off early Zerg roach attacks I think is the reasoning.

Good luck to all the zergs trying to punish terran when they have mines in place AND sieged tanks behind all their depots and whatnot.


New standard will be 3x orbital in the early game i think, zerg will have real trouble punishing Terran greed now.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12912 Posts
March 07 2013 15:49 GMT
#2512
On March 08 2013 00:41 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 00:40 Leetley wrote:
On March 08 2013 00:39 m0ck wrote:
Simply removing automatic siege-mode for terran would help a lot with making terran vulnerable after making big head-on attacks like the hellion-attack.

Yup, I think they need to re-add the siege research.


I really don't think the tank needed that buff to begin with :x I mean, why? And I'm Terran.

It doesn't make much sense, for sure.
The early game looks so weird on HotS, especially when watching it for the first time o_o.
WriterMaru
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12033 Posts
March 07 2013 15:49 GMT
#2513
On March 08 2013 00:47 Ryps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 00:46 sitromit wrote:
EGStephano ‏@EGStephanoRC

I am totally lost against Terran. Impossible to attack with tanks and mines. Impossible to leave your base with Medivacs.

David Kim, undo something ! hah


Either that or build some base defense against drops.
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suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
March 07 2013 15:49 GMT
#2514
On March 08 2013 00:47 Ryps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 00:46 sitromit wrote:
EGStephano ‏@EGStephanoRC

I am totally lost against Terran. Impossible to attack with tanks and mines. Impossible to leave your base with Medivacs.

David Kim, undo something ! hah


give broodlords afterburners!
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33599 Posts
March 07 2013 15:49 GMT
#2515
On March 08 2013 00:49 sitromit wrote:
Grubby: "I think HotS is more my game"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBXKnd2WEb0


I'd argue that last/near last place in this group was realistic in WoL too
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5524 Posts
March 07 2013 15:50 GMT
#2516
On March 08 2013 00:48 SiroKO wrote:
Zerg players seem to be unaccustomed to lose that badly.
This says more about WoL balance than HoTS imo.

I think it says more about HoTS than WoL, actually.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45776 Posts
March 07 2013 15:50 GMT
#2517
On March 08 2013 00:49 sitromit wrote:
Grubby: "I think HotS is more my game"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBXKnd2WEb0


HotS may be more his game than WoL... but HotS is apparently more everyone else's game too... and by a larger margin lol
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
March 07 2013 15:50 GMT
#2518
If MVP wins this tournament, consider me sold on HotS GSL :D
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
Leetley
Profile Joined October 2010
1796 Posts
March 07 2013 15:50 GMT
#2519
On March 08 2013 00:48 SiroKO wrote:
Zerg players seem to be unaccustomed to lose that badly.
This says more about WoL balance than HoTS imo.

Terrans have more freedom which is great and it also shows.
Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
March 07 2013 15:50 GMT
#2520
"You cannot win by yourself" ...
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