EPT[IEM] World Championship Day 3 - Page 124
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Caletor
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Ryps
Romania2740 Posts
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On March 08 2013 00:38 Qikz wrote: So you don't follow and wait for him to come back. Seriously watch all the MLG showdowns and also the games yesterday. It's to early to whine about that, if zerg can't complain about Widow mines you should not complain about Blinding cloud. | ||
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suicideyear
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
On March 08 2013 00:39 wangstra wrote: Blinding cloud needs to hold units in place. maybe make it 8 range, 30 damage (+10 against armored), you might be onto something... | ||
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On March 08 2013 00:39 aidosae wrote: not only that... the units will move out of the cloud without you doing anything at all... can someone confirm that its still the case? The units will move forward, which is good for the zerg as they will come into melee range with roaches, leaving part of the bio army still under the cloud. The correct response as terran is to kite back ASAP, but it usually results in taking a few free hits from the hydras anyway. This makes vipers a huge help in roach/hydra vs bio, both in battles and as a zoning tool. | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On March 08 2013 00:42 Heartland wrote: To hold off early Zerg roach attacks I think is the reasoning. Are roaches buffed? Can you get them quicker than before? If not, there is no reason, you can hold roach rushes off just fine right now. | ||
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
On March 08 2013 00:38 Mouzone wrote: How was game 1 of Dream vs. Grubby anyone? A slaughter, unfortunately :& | ||
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TimENT
United States1425 Posts
On March 08 2013 00:42 vthree wrote: Well, Mvp also developed a lot of the WoL metagame along with a couple other top korea terrans. He was one of the first to show how to macro and expand safely vs 2 base play that was very common in early 2011. Early bunker play vs zerg. He also showed the power of mass ghosts both in vP (EMP) and vZ (snipes). Was the top meching player in TvT, showed more BC play than any other terran, going hellion/banshee after the Queen buff. I could go on and on. He was THE first successful macro terran. And then he developed cheese. He became unbeatable at that point. | ||
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Ketch
Netherlands7285 Posts
On March 08 2013 00:41 sparklyresidue wrote: I also agree, free siege is kinda silly. Yeah, but they removed toilets from the factory so they could fit in the siege tech, so it is how it is | ||
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syroz
France249 Posts
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
On March 08 2013 00:43 Type|NarutO wrote: Are roaches buffed? Can you get them quicker than before? If not, there is no reason, you can hold roach rushes off just fine right now. I thought the reason behind it was to make mech/tech builds better in TvP o-o | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On March 08 2013 00:41 Type|NarutO wrote: I really don't think the tank needed that buff to begin with :x I mean, why? And I'm Terran. I think it was vs the early MsC pressure from protoss. Early gateway pressure (before stim) was already strong in WoL, with msc, it would have been almost impossible to hold so having early siege tanks help with that. | ||
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-Kaiser-
Canada932 Posts
It remains to be seen what the endgame is like, but they definitely seem to be better off than they are in WoL. | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24591 Posts
On March 08 2013 00:43 Lysanias wrote: It's to early to whine about that, if zerg can't complain about Widow mines you should not complain about Blinding cloud. Yeah, tbh it's too early to say anything about balance. Everything is just too uncertain. Maybe a pro will find out a compositoin or timing tomorrow that will revolutionise everything in the metagame. | ||
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Broodwurst
Germany1586 Posts
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Mouzone
3937 Posts
That's a shame. Grubby is just getting battered in this group it seems. | ||
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ssxsilver
United States4409 Posts
On March 08 2013 00:41 Type|NarutO wrote: I really don't think the tank needed that buff to begin with :x I mean, why? And I'm Terran. I think the tank buff is fine, albeit a bit random. Widow mines seem a bit too good too fast. Maybe make it require an Armory just so they get delayed somewhat so the proxies are more of a risk. That said MVP is still the best player in SC2. | ||
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Nick!
Scotland701 Posts
On March 08 2013 00:44 Asha` wrote: I thought the reason behind it was to make mech/tech builds better in TvP o-o Nobody will ever go mech TvP with the new medivacs | ||
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habeck
1120 Posts
On March 08 2013 00:42 vthree wrote: Well, Mvp also developed a lot of the WoL metagame along with a couple other top korea terrans. He was one of the first to show how to macro and expand safely vs 2 base play that was very common in early 2011. Early bunker play vs zerg. He also showed the power of mass ghosts both in vP (EMP) and vZ (snipes). Was the top meching player in TvT, showed more BC play than any other terran, going hellion/banshee after the Queen buff. I could go on and on. At the start he was one of the best marine tank players, but as time passed, he started meching more and more. | ||
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Kasaraki
Denmark7115 Posts
On March 08 2013 00:42 vthree wrote: Well, Mvp also developed a lot of the WoL metagame along with a couple other top korea terrans. He was one of the first to show how to macro and expand safely vs 2 base play that was very common in early 2011. Early bunker play vs zerg. He also showed the power of mass ghosts both in vP (EMP) and vZ (snipes). Was the top meching player in TvT, showed more BC play than any other terran, going hellion/banshee after the Queen buff. I could go on and on. Yeah the list is pretty staggering when you start talking about Mvp's affect on WoL metagame. Would make a great TLFE. :o And that's just metagame influence, you could delve into skill in other areas, such as the marine/tank control and micro in 2011, mindgames, and so forth. | ||
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