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FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
November 26 2012 17:22 GMT
#61
On November 27 2012 01:57 Radi0active wrote:
NaNiwa will stomp Life, you heard it here first.


It won't reach there.

Koreans should 3-0.
Just look at SC2 history, Koreans literally win everything.

Play your best
Maleta
Profile Joined September 2012
Chile150 Posts
November 26 2012 17:33 GMT
#62
Head: Koreans... Heart: Foreigners... it has always been like that since starcraft started more than a decade ago... i guess i feel that romanticism for foreigners hoping that they could win the series anyway... naniwa show your balls a probe rush your way to victory against life
Forward + Down + Downforward + Forward + Punch (Any) // F + QF + HP/MP/LP.... SHORYUKEN!!!
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
November 26 2012 18:01 GMT
#63
Foreigners are quite luck here actually. There are two matchups that should have a clear Korean favourite: Life > Naniwa, and Seed > Lucifron (I don't care what people think about Seed currently, but Lucifron doesn't have very impressive PvT, and Seed has too many clever build orders - I think Lucifron deals badly with things going out of the ordinary, but even in a standard game Seed should win easily - Seed is a different calibre of player, even if he can be inconsistenst against Korean opponents.)

With those out of the way, let's take a look at the more equal matchups:
Squirtle vs Nerchio - Nerchio has the edge here, mainly due to the fact that his ZvP is disturbingly strongh, while Squirtle is slumping and not really someone you'd consider a PvZ specialist. If we had the Squirtle from earlier this year, he would likely be the favourite, but we don't, and this is PvZ, a very unforgiving matchup. Squirtle will need to bring his absolute best play here, or Nerchio will likely roll over him.

DRG vs Scarlett - There was a time where DRG was the absolute master of this matchup, perfectly solidified by him beating the original ZvZ master NesTea. But since then, DRG has fallen off quite a bit in this matchup, while in general also having suffered a slight reduction in his dominance across the board, and gained a newfound streak of inconsistency. These days, it may not even be incorrect to say it's a problematic matchup for for him, but that's against his fellow Koreans (4 wins, 6 losses plague his last 10 Korean ZvZs). Where does Scarlett fall compared to the likes of Roro, Effort and Leenock? It's hard to tell exactly, but from what we can gather, Scarlett is in the absolute highest echelon of foreign ZvZ, she has torn through any non-Korean she's come across in many clean sweeps. So where does that put her? Well, that depends on how close in skill you consider foreigners and Koreans, and especially the many NA players she has fill up her ZvZ history, but a good estimate is way below Roro/Effort/Leenock, and a tiny bit below the current average of DRG. In other words, she has a chance. She's not directly favoured, but Scarlett may pull something out of her hat, and if DRG takes her to the lategame, he just may find the odds turning against him.

MC vs Stephano - Stephano has a record of 8 wins and 9 losses against MC, where half his losses are almost a year old, with the wins being more recent. Normally, Stephano is favoured against MC, but MC is likely quite happy with the Bo1 format here, which gives him a good chance to surprise Stephano.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-26 18:08:05
November 26 2012 18:07 GMT
#64
LOL!

Life vs Naniwa oh wow going to be so one sided ^_^


MC vs Stephano should be fun :D
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chosenkerrigan
Profile Joined May 2011
858 Posts
November 26 2012 18:15 GMT
#65
On November 27 2012 03:01 Kasaraki wrote:
Foreigners are quite luck here actually. There are two matchups that should have a clear Korean favourite: Life > Naniwa, and Seed > Lucifron (I don't care what people think about Seed currently, but Lucifron doesn't have very impressive PvT, and Seed has too many clever build orders - I think Lucifron deals badly with things going out of the ordinary, but even in a standard game Seed should win easily - Seed is a different calibre of player, even if he can be inconsistenst against Korean opponents.)

With those out of the way, let's take a look at the more equal matchups:
Squirtle vs Nerchio - Nerchio has the edge here, mainly due to the fact that his ZvP is disturbingly strongh, while Squirtle is slumping and not really someone you'd consider a PvZ specialist. If we had the Squirtle from earlier this year, he would likely be the favourite, but we don't, and this is PvZ, a very unforgiving matchup. Squirtle will need to bring his absolute best play here, or Nerchio will likely roll over him.

DRG vs Scarlett - There was a time where DRG was the absolute master of this matchup, perfectly solidified by him beating the original ZvZ master NesTea. But since then, DRG has fallen off quite a bit in this matchup, while in general also having suffered a slight reduction in his dominance across the board, and gained a newfound streak of inconsistency. These days, it may not even be incorrect to say it's a problematic matchup for for him, but that's against his fellow Koreans (4 wins, 6 losses plague his last 10 Korean ZvZs). Where does Scarlett fall compared to the likes of Roro, Effort and Leenock? It's hard to tell exactly, but from what we can gather, Scarlett is in the absolute highest echelon of foreign ZvZ, she has torn through any non-Korean she's come across in many clean sweeps. So where does that put her? Well, that depends on how close in skill you consider foreigners and Koreans, and especially the many NA players she has fill up her ZvZ history, but a good estimate is way below Roro/Effort/Leenock, and a tiny bit below the current average of DRG. In other words, she has a chance. She's not directly favoured, but Scarlett may pull something out of her hat, and if DRG takes her to the lategame, he just may find the odds turning against him.

MC vs Stephano - Stephano has a record of 8 wins and 9 losses against MC, where half his losses are almost a year old, with the wins being more recent. Normally, Stephano is favoured against MC, but MC is likely quite happy with the Bo1 format here, which gives him a good chance to surprise Stephano.


Granted MC is not in his best shape at the moment, neither is Stephano. Given stephano's recent performance, I'd give MC the slightest edge here IMHO.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
November 26 2012 18:20 GMT
#66
Imo should be at least 7 players on both sides,format is too small for something like this.
Cackle™
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
November 26 2012 18:21 GMT
#67
Nani vs Zerg is not going to end well...
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TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
November 26 2012 18:23 GMT
#68
And yea Naniwa is going to get obliterated.
Cackle™
-TesteR-
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1165 Posts
November 26 2012 18:29 GMT
#69
On November 27 2012 02:22 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 01:57 Radi0active wrote:
NaNiwa will stomp Life, you heard it here first.


It won't reach there.

Koreans should 3-0.
Just look at SC2 history, Koreans literally win everything.



How about you look at the last Korea vs the World
snorlax1
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore233 Posts
November 26 2012 18:31 GMT
#70
one 1 Terran, will cheer for Lucifron, although I think he should proxy marauder =))
paradoxOO9
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1123 Posts
November 26 2012 18:34 GMT
#71
I think it will be kinda close but I can still see Korea taking this one I am afraid
chosenkerrigan
Profile Joined May 2011
858 Posts
November 26 2012 18:40 GMT
#72
On November 27 2012 03:29 -TesteR- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 02:22 FakeDeath wrote:
On November 27 2012 01:57 Radi0active wrote:
NaNiwa will stomp Life, you heard it here first.


It won't reach there.

Koreans should 3-0.
Just look at SC2 history, Koreans literally win everything.



How about you look at the last Korea vs the World


The skill difference was much smaller at the beginning of sc2 progaming, not to mention that Korea still won.
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
November 26 2012 19:25 GMT
#73
Koreans 4-1 with Nerchio winning
#TheOneTrueDong
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
November 26 2012 19:32 GMT
#74
The only foreigner I'd say is favored in his matchup is Stephano, and his ZvP isn't what it used to be. Naniwa has almost no chance in PvZ, and Nerchio has been struggling in this matchup too. Scarlett's ZvZ is really good but DRG is usually almost unstoppable, and Lucifron won't beat Seed.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
November 26 2012 19:32 GMT
#75
Nerchio has the most chance of winning imo, except if Stephano pulls his fingers out of his ass and play like he used to otherwise he'll get smashed. So 4-1 or 3-2 for foreigners.
b0rt_
Profile Joined October 2011
Norway931 Posts
November 26 2012 19:44 GMT
#76
That's a sick world line up. Wonder how well Scarlet will do.
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
November 26 2012 19:49 GMT
#77
On November 26 2012 21:31 Satiinifi wrote:
wohooo pzvz pvp vzv weehee, another tournament that I'll watch for 1 round unless lucifron pulls out a miracle against the imbalance

Sadly that's what I was thinking looking at the lineup... You know things are going bad when not even Korean Terrans are winning.
SwizzY
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1549 Posts
November 26 2012 19:51 GMT
#78
Naniwa is GREAT at preparing for opponents, might be closer than we think...
All that glitters is not gold, all that wander are not lost, the old that is strong does not wither, deep roots are not reached by frost.
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
November 26 2012 20:37 GMT
#79
Do we know yet if GOM will force IPL to degrade their video the same way they did for the GSTL at IPL4? Hopefully they won't this time.
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
November 26 2012 20:45 GMT
#80
This Korean Line up is beatable.
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