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letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
November 22 2012 11:33 GMT
#1281
occasional blinks of brilliance that nonames are showing can be fresh and intriguing, but it is a bad deal in a long run.
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
November 22 2012 11:33 GMT
#1282
On November 22 2012 20:31 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Here's a question. How has Dream's play looked against other players in the CURRENT season? I can understand a player suddenly hitting his stride and realizing his true potential after a long period of terrible results.. But I cringe at the prospect that the best/consistent players can be defeated in such a dominant fashion by inconsistent, relatively much worse players, with preparation alone. There needs to be a stronger filter in place, like macro/economy management mechanics, that reduces the chance for an upset.

The better player today won.

There does not need to be any stronger filter, if you donate all your Templar to a player when going Templar before Colossus, and get out multitasked, you lose. There's nothing else about it.
I love crazymoving
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 22 2012 11:33 GMT
#1283
On November 22 2012 20:30 Fionn wrote:
If Flash loses, pretty much all leverage KeSPA had over the ESF is dead.

inb4 kespa is making all these guys throw matches
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
November 22 2012 11:33 GMT
#1284
oh yeah, i forgot jaedong and fantasy are still alive.

they have hope.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
November 22 2012 11:33 GMT
#1285
On November 22 2012 20:31 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Here's a question. How has Dream's play looked against other players in the CURRENT season? I can understand a player suddenly hitting his stride and realizing his true potential after a long period of terrible results.. But I cringe at the prospect that the best/consistent players can be defeated in such a dominant fashion by inconsistent, relatively much worse players, with preparation alone. There needs to be a stronger filter in place, like macro/economy management mechanics, that reduces the chance for an upset.

He is like Yoda =), he started off cheesing everyone and suddenly became a Macro Player.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 22 2012 11:33 GMT
#1286
On November 22 2012 20:31 Kasaraki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 20:30 Fionn wrote:
If Flash loses, pretty much all leverage KeSPA had over the ESF is dead.



Watch Bogus win this season.


Won't matter imo.

Flash is the elephant leader. His transition was the most anticipated. He is the symbolism for the storm to come. THE Elephant in the Room. If he dies to an relatively unknown player like this...yeah what Fionn said.
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zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
November 22 2012 11:33 GMT
#1287
On November 22 2012 20:31 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Here's a question. How has Dream's play looked against other players in the CURRENT season? I can understand a player suddenly hitting his stride and realizing his true potential after a long period of terrible results.. But I cringe at the prospect that the best/consistent players can be defeated in such a dominant fashion by inconsistent, relatively much worse players, with preparation alone. There needs to be a stronger filter in place, like macro/economy management mechanics, that reduces the chance for an upset.


This was his first game..
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-22 11:34:24
November 22 2012 11:33 GMT
#1288
On November 22 2012 20:32 Shartugal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 20:30 TheBB wrote:
Flash vs. Brave

Flash wins (65.46%):
      2-1: 65.46%

Brave wins (34.54%):
      2-0: 19.09%
      2-1: 15.45%

Most likely winner: Flash (65.46%)
Most likely outcome: Flash 2-1 Brave (65.46%)

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details, data source, code


I like how you're constantly showing the probablity of each player winning the game and overall set. Someone should check how often your predictions turns out to be true though, would be nice


not predictions it's the probability of who will win with the probability percentages made with a program he wrote, I believe?
Moderatorlickypiddy
Jehct
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
November 22 2012 11:34 GMT
#1289
On November 22 2012 20:31 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Here's a question. How has Dream's play looked against other players in the CURRENT season? I can understand a player suddenly hitting his stride and realizing his true potential after a long period of terrible results.. But I cringe at the prospect that the best/consistent players can be defeated in such a dominant fashion by inconsistent, relatively much worse players, with preparation alone. There needs to be a stronger filter in place, like macro/economy management mechanics, that reduces the chance for an upset.

Dream beat Rain in a series of multitasking-focused, mechanically demanding games. The fuck more do you want?

It wasn't 'lol I chose the right all-ins', the same shit probably would have happened in these circumstances in BW. Guy who is practicing hard in a good environment > guy who has been travelling a ton. It's not rocket science, and it's not the games fault -_-
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 22 2012 11:34 GMT
#1290
On November 22 2012 20:33 Flonomenalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 20:31 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Here's a question. How has Dream's play looked against other players in the CURRENT season? I can understand a player suddenly hitting his stride and realizing his true potential after a long period of terrible results.. But I cringe at the prospect that the best/consistent players can be defeated in such a dominant fashion by inconsistent, relatively much worse players, with preparation alone. There needs to be a stronger filter in place, like macro/economy management mechanics, that reduces the chance for an upset.

The better player today won.

There does not need to be any stronger filter, if you donate all your Templar to a player when going Templar before Colossus, and get out multitasked, you lose. There's nothing else about it.


The problem is no one is better than everyone else enough to make it so they can dominate.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
November 22 2012 11:34 GMT
#1291
Really enjoying Khaldor and Wolf's casting today. ^^
Long live the King of Wings
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
November 22 2012 11:34 GMT
#1292
Code S is brutal guys. Why else do you think we make such a big deal and give so much respect to players like Nestea/MVP, even when they are slumping? Because of how long they were able to stay in it, and contend/win repeatedly.
I love crazymoving
InstantKarma
Profile Joined November 2010
United States205 Posts
November 22 2012 11:35 GMT
#1293
If flash loses Flash and Rain will be replaced by Fantasy and Jaedong this season of GSL.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
November 22 2012 11:35 GMT
#1294
On November 22 2012 20:33 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 20:31 Kasaraki wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:30 Fionn wrote:
If Flash loses, pretty much all leverage KeSPA had over the ESF is dead.



Watch Bogus win this season.


Won't matter imo.

Flash is the elephant leader. His transition was the most anticipated. He is the symbolism for the storm to come. THE Elephant in the Room. If he dies to an relatively unknown player like this...yeah what Fionn said.


Jaedong still in Code A ^_^ still hope.
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
November 22 2012 11:35 GMT
#1295
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Cmon Brave. Let the shitstorm begin.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
November 22 2012 11:35 GMT
#1296
On November 22 2012 20:34 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 20:33 Flonomenalz wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:31 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Here's a question. How has Dream's play looked against other players in the CURRENT season? I can understand a player suddenly hitting his stride and realizing his true potential after a long period of terrible results.. But I cringe at the prospect that the best/consistent players can be defeated in such a dominant fashion by inconsistent, relatively much worse players, with preparation alone. There needs to be a stronger filter in place, like macro/economy management mechanics, that reduces the chance for an upset.

The better player today won.

There does not need to be any stronger filter, if you donate all your Templar to a player when going Templar before Colossus, and get out multitasked, you lose. There's nothing else about it.


The problem is no one is better than everyone else enough to make it so they can dominate.


L G - I M
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
November 22 2012 11:35 GMT
#1297
On November 22 2012 20:31 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Here's a question. How has Dream's play looked against other players in the CURRENT season? I can understand a player suddenly hitting his stride and realizing his true potential after a long period of terrible results.. But I cringe at the prospect that the best/consistent players can be defeated in such a dominant fashion by inconsistent, relatively much worse players, with preparation alone. There needs to be a stronger filter in place, like macro/economy management mechanics, that reduces the chance for an upset.


If you look at those games again you'll see that Rain did a lot of small and even some bigger mistakes he normally doesn't do. Dream played well and Rain didn't.
Maybe Rain couldn't practice that much after MLG or something but he was definitely off today.
The better player still wins in SC2, that's why there are dominant players like Mvp who win again and again and again.
Today Rain just played worse then Dream. And he wouldn't have deserved to win a game when playing worse. I think you agree with that, don't you?
Just ahead of time, know your addiction's not a crime. It's just a smaller part of who you want to become in the end.
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
November 22 2012 11:35 GMT
#1298
On November 22 2012 20:34 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 20:33 Flonomenalz wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:31 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Here's a question. How has Dream's play looked against other players in the CURRENT season? I can understand a player suddenly hitting his stride and realizing his true potential after a long period of terrible results.. But I cringe at the prospect that the best/consistent players can be defeated in such a dominant fashion by inconsistent, relatively much worse players, with preparation alone. There needs to be a stronger filter in place, like macro/economy management mechanics, that reduces the chance for an upset.

The better player today won.

There does not need to be any stronger filter, if you donate all your Templar to a player when going Templar before Colossus, and get out multitasked, you lose. There's nothing else about it.


The problem is no one is better than everyone else enough to make it so they can dominate.

MVP would be dominating if he didnt have a garbage tier spine
Maruprime.
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
November 22 2012 11:35 GMT
#1299
On November 22 2012 20:34 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 20:33 Flonomenalz wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:31 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Here's a question. How has Dream's play looked against other players in the CURRENT season? I can understand a player suddenly hitting his stride and realizing his true potential after a long period of terrible results.. But I cringe at the prospect that the best/consistent players can be defeated in such a dominant fashion by inconsistent, relatively much worse players, with preparation alone. There needs to be a stronger filter in place, like macro/economy management mechanics, that reduces the chance for an upset.

The better player today won.

There does not need to be any stronger filter, if you donate all your Templar to a player when going Templar before Colossus, and get out multitasked, you lose. There's nothing else about it.


The problem is no one is better than everyone else enough to make it so they can dominate.

How is that a problem?
I love crazymoving
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
November 22 2012 11:35 GMT
#1300
On November 22 2012 20:32 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 20:31 letian wrote:
if Flash loses, with Rain out, there is less and less point watching code A

Lee the Tytraaaant Jaedong

also, it beats working.

I have serious doubts that JD is capable of code S
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