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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
November 22 2012 11:39 GMT
#1321
brave bout to get macrolled.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 22 2012 11:39 GMT
#1322
On November 22 2012 20:37 Shartugal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 20:36 HaXXspetten wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:35 Fjodorov wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:34 Dodgin wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:33 Flonomenalz wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:31 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Here's a question. How has Dream's play looked against other players in the CURRENT season? I can understand a player suddenly hitting his stride and realizing his true potential after a long period of terrible results.. But I cringe at the prospect that the best/consistent players can be defeated in such a dominant fashion by inconsistent, relatively much worse players, with preparation alone. There needs to be a stronger filter in place, like macro/economy management mechanics, that reduces the chance for an upset.

The better player today won.

There does not need to be any stronger filter, if you donate all your Templar to a player when going Templar before Colossus, and get out multitasked, you lose. There's nothing else about it.


The problem is no one is better than everyone else enough to make it so they can dominate.


L G - I M

StarTale raped them 5-1 in the IPTL finals tonight, sorry


Name me the number of GSL championsips won by StarTale players and then the same number won by LG-IM players. As it turns out, LG-IM players have won slightly more.

2 of their champions are currently in Code B, the last one currently in Round 2 of Code A and has a serious wrist injury

sooo yeah their history doesn't really mean anything whatsoever right now
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 22 2012 11:39 GMT
#1323
On November 22 2012 20:38 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 20:36 Dodgin wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:35 Fjodorov wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:34 Dodgin wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:33 Flonomenalz wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:31 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Here's a question. How has Dream's play looked against other players in the CURRENT season? I can understand a player suddenly hitting his stride and realizing his true potential after a long period of terrible results.. But I cringe at the prospect that the best/consistent players can be defeated in such a dominant fashion by inconsistent, relatively much worse players, with preparation alone. There needs to be a stronger filter in place, like macro/economy management mechanics, that reduces the chance for an upset.

The better player today won.

There does not need to be any stronger filter, if you donate all your Templar to a player when going Templar before Colossus, and get out multitasked, you lose. There's nothing else about it.


The problem is no one is better than everyone else enough to make it so they can dominate.


L G - I M


I mean right now, it seems like we've somehow hit a turning point where results are so random and no one can dominate.


Leenock has been doing well for like 2 years. Still no GSL win but solid results all over.


Yeah Leenock is an extremely good player, but he just lost 1-3 in Code S to MVPSniper also known as the guy with no deep runs in the GSL or any other major tournament until now.
InstantKarma
Profile Joined November 2010
United States205 Posts
November 22 2012 11:39 GMT
#1324
On November 22 2012 20:38 jaQi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 20:36 Kasaraki wrote:
Bisu will become the new KESPA hope.


You must be kidding.


Yep, Bisu's just giving everyone a head start.
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
November 22 2012 11:39 GMT
#1325
great FFs
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
November 22 2012 11:39 GMT
#1326
That colossus so low on health. -_-;
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
November 22 2012 11:39 GMT
#1327
ooo tried to bait those ffs but was too far forward
Maruprime.
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
November 22 2012 11:39 GMT
#1328
why does he think MMM beats colo army/storm army

i dont understand
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
November 22 2012 11:39 GMT
#1329
Meh, Open Season style. Stim and try to run up a ramp and hope the protoss doesn't forcefield.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 22 2012 11:40 GMT
#1330
On November 22 2012 20:39 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 20:37 Shartugal wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:36 HaXXspetten wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:35 Fjodorov wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:34 Dodgin wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:33 Flonomenalz wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:31 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Here's a question. How has Dream's play looked against other players in the CURRENT season? I can understand a player suddenly hitting his stride and realizing his true potential after a long period of terrible results.. But I cringe at the prospect that the best/consistent players can be defeated in such a dominant fashion by inconsistent, relatively much worse players, with preparation alone. There needs to be a stronger filter in place, like macro/economy management mechanics, that reduces the chance for an upset.

The better player today won.

There does not need to be any stronger filter, if you donate all your Templar to a player when going Templar before Colossus, and get out multitasked, you lose. There's nothing else about it.


The problem is no one is better than everyone else enough to make it so they can dominate.


L G - I M

StarTale raped them 5-1 in the IPTL finals tonight, sorry


Name me the number of GSL championsips won by StarTale players and then the same number won by LG-IM players. As it turns out, LG-IM players have won slightly more.

2 of their champions are currently in Code B, the last one currently in Round 2 of Code A and has a serious wrist injury

sooo yeah their history doesn't really mean anything whatsoever right now


Nestea is in code A r2 actually
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
November 22 2012 11:40 GMT
#1331
I agree that MVP is quite consistent, but the problem is that no one else has been consistent. It's good times if you were an MVP fan these 2 years, but you'd be pretty disappointed most of the time if you supported any other "code S" player (disappointed in the sense that they're supposed to get to the semis or finals at least).
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
November 22 2012 11:40 GMT
#1332
On November 22 2012 20:38 jaQi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 20:36 Kasaraki wrote:
Bisu will become the new KESPA hope.


You must be kidding.

Pretty sure he is.
https://soundcloud.com/papercranesdk
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
November 22 2012 11:40 GMT
#1333
PLEASE MAKE GHOSTS THIS GAME FLASH
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18587 Posts
November 22 2012 11:40 GMT
#1334
Looking at Flash's playstyle I must think Stats is never using hts...
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
November 22 2012 11:40 GMT
#1335
On November 22 2012 20:40 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 20:39 HaXXspetten wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:37 Shartugal wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:36 HaXXspetten wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:35 Fjodorov wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:34 Dodgin wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:33 Flonomenalz wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:31 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Here's a question. How has Dream's play looked against other players in the CURRENT season? I can understand a player suddenly hitting his stride and realizing his true potential after a long period of terrible results.. But I cringe at the prospect that the best/consistent players can be defeated in such a dominant fashion by inconsistent, relatively much worse players, with preparation alone. There needs to be a stronger filter in place, like macro/economy management mechanics, that reduces the chance for an upset.

The better player today won.

There does not need to be any stronger filter, if you donate all your Templar to a player when going Templar before Colossus, and get out multitasked, you lose. There's nothing else about it.


The problem is no one is better than everyone else enough to make it so they can dominate.


L G - I M

StarTale raped them 5-1 in the IPTL finals tonight, sorry


Name me the number of GSL championsips won by StarTale players and then the same number won by LG-IM players. As it turns out, LG-IM players have won slightly more.

2 of their champions are currently in Code B, the last one currently in Round 2 of Code A and has a serious wrist injury

sooo yeah their history doesn't really mean anything whatsoever right now


Nestea is in code A r2 actually

yonghwa is in code a and that's all that matters.
Moderatorlickypiddy
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
November 22 2012 11:41 GMT
#1336
On November 22 2012 20:37 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 20:35 Flonomenalz wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:34 Dodgin wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:33 Flonomenalz wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:31 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Here's a question. How has Dream's play looked against other players in the CURRENT season? I can understand a player suddenly hitting his stride and realizing his true potential after a long period of terrible results.. But I cringe at the prospect that the best/consistent players can be defeated in such a dominant fashion by inconsistent, relatively much worse players, with preparation alone. There needs to be a stronger filter in place, like macro/economy management mechanics, that reduces the chance for an upset.

The better player today won.

There does not need to be any stronger filter, if you donate all your Templar to a player when going Templar before Colossus, and get out multitasked, you lose. There's nothing else about it.


The problem is no one is better than everyone else enough to make it so they can dominate.

How is that a problem?


Because it's boring and we can't build a story around this game if we don't have the Mvp's, the NesTea's, the Flash's and the Jaedong's.

We can't always have a story. I can't believe so many people are complaining where this is literally the first GSL we don't have a major story.
I love crazymoving
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
November 22 2012 11:41 GMT
#1337
On November 22 2012 20:34 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 20:33 Flonomenalz wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:31 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Here's a question. How has Dream's play looked against other players in the CURRENT season? I can understand a player suddenly hitting his stride and realizing his true potential after a long period of terrible results.. But I cringe at the prospect that the best/consistent players can be defeated in such a dominant fashion by inconsistent, relatively much worse players, with preparation alone. There needs to be a stronger filter in place, like macro/economy management mechanics, that reduces the chance for an upset.

The better player today won.

There does not need to be any stronger filter, if you donate all your Templar to a player when going Templar before Colossus, and get out multitasked, you lose. There's nothing else about it.


The problem is no one is better than everyone else enough to make it so they can dominate.

Not yet, but it'll happen the game's still fairly young. Mvp prior to his wrist injury kicking in was pretty unstoppable, and I feel like if he hadn't been injured he would've stayed that way. It's really just a matter of time til a player or two rise above the rest.
Long live the King of Wings
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
November 22 2012 11:41 GMT
#1338
flash has sickkkk fucking macro though
Maruprime.
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
November 22 2012 11:41 GMT
#1339
On November 22 2012 20:39 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 20:37 Shartugal wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:36 HaXXspetten wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:35 Fjodorov wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:34 Dodgin wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:33 Flonomenalz wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:31 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Here's a question. How has Dream's play looked against other players in the CURRENT season? I can understand a player suddenly hitting his stride and realizing his true potential after a long period of terrible results.. But I cringe at the prospect that the best/consistent players can be defeated in such a dominant fashion by inconsistent, relatively much worse players, with preparation alone. There needs to be a stronger filter in place, like macro/economy management mechanics, that reduces the chance for an upset.

The better player today won.

There does not need to be any stronger filter, if you donate all your Templar to a player when going Templar before Colossus, and get out multitasked, you lose. There's nothing else about it.


The problem is no one is better than everyone else enough to make it so they can dominate.


L G - I M

StarTale raped them 5-1 in the IPTL finals tonight, sorry


Name me the number of GSL championsips won by StarTale players and then the same number won by LG-IM players. As it turns out, LG-IM players have won slightly more.

2 of their champions are currently in Code B, the last one currently in Round 2 of Code A and has a serious wrist injury

sooo yeah their history doesn't really mean anything whatsoever right now


You are talking about who is dominating right now, i have no idea why. The discussion is about if it is possible to dominate in sc2 and we are providing evidence and examples of players dominating.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 22 2012 11:41 GMT
#1340
On November 22 2012 20:38 Fjodorov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2012 20:36 HaXXspetten wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:35 Fjodorov wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:34 Dodgin wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:33 Flonomenalz wrote:
On November 22 2012 20:31 thepuppyassassin wrote:
Here's a question. How has Dream's play looked against other players in the CURRENT season? I can understand a player suddenly hitting his stride and realizing his true potential after a long period of terrible results.. But I cringe at the prospect that the best/consistent players can be defeated in such a dominant fashion by inconsistent, relatively much worse players, with preparation alone. There needs to be a stronger filter in place, like macro/economy management mechanics, that reduces the chance for an upset.

The better player today won.

There does not need to be any stronger filter, if you donate all your Templar to a player when going Templar before Colossus, and get out multitasked, you lose. There's nothing else about it.


The problem is no one is better than everyone else enough to make it so they can dominate.


L G - I M

StarTale raped them 5-1 in the IPTL finals tonight, sorry


What the hell is your definition of dominant? You have to win every game from the start to the end of time? Count the GSL championships between the players on that team, and check out this dude Mvp, and tell me its impossible to dominate in sc2.

eh, no we have not had anyone dominate sc2 yet, that's like the definition of a bonjwa, which last time I checked we haven't come very close to getting yet so no (even though Mvp said he might be one had he won his fifth, I definitely would not have seen him as such, maybe if Rain had won GSL/OSL/WCS all during his first season that would have been more promising)
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