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Champloo
Germany1850 Posts
On October 21 2012 21:42 SupLilSon wrote: A Korean who doesn't train or compete in Korea is just a foreigner. Europeans also defended their homeground against Koreans who train in Korea and play in Code S. Dreamhack Stockholm (Polt, Hyun, Monster, Genius, Puma) won by Thorzain Dreamhack Summer (Hero, Taeja, JYP, Keen, Puma, Vampire) won by Mana Homestory Cup (MVP, MC, Yongwha, Sleep) won by Nerchio | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On October 21 2012 21:42 SupLilSon wrote: A Korean who doesn't train or compete in Korea is just a foreigner. This is an interesting way to look at it, and I can't say i disagree. We make the distinction between Foreigner and Korean because of the Korean training and competing in the GSL, right? So is Sage really a Korean in the Starcraft sense? It's an interesting question. | ||
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justinpal
United States3810 Posts
On October 21 2012 21:50 Dodgin wrote: This is an interesting way to look at it, and I can't say i disagree. We make the distinction between Foreigner and Korean because of the Korean training and competing in the GSL, right? So is Sage really a Korean in the Starcraft sense? It's an interesting question. Doesn't he live in the team house that feeds people meatballs for breakfast? That's gotta make him less Korean. | ||
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DOUDOU
Wales2940 Posts
On October 21 2012 21:50 Dodgin wrote: This is an interesting way to look at it, and I can't say i disagree. We make the distinction between Foreigner and Korean because of the Korean training and competing in the GSL, right? So is Sage really a Korean in the Starcraft sense? It's an interesting question. forGG is a damn good foreigner | ||
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XaCez
Sweden6991 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On October 21 2012 21:51 justinpal wrote: Doesn't he live in the team house that feeds people meatballs for breakfast? I wouldn't call the Ministry of Win a team house, I would call it a vacation. | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On October 21 2012 21:50 Dodgin wrote: This is an interesting way to look at it, and I can't say i disagree. We make the distinction between Foreigner and Korean because of the Korean training and competing in the GSL, right? So is Sage really a Korean in the Starcraft sense? It's an interesting question. So is MaNa a Korean? | ||
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CryMeAReaper
Denmark1135 Posts
On October 21 2012 21:50 Dodgin wrote: This is an interesting way to look at it, and I can't say i disagree. We make the distinction between Foreigner and Korean because of the Korean training and competing in the GSL, right? So is Sage really a Korean in the Starcraft sense? It's an interesting question. I just don't give a fuck about where the players are or who they represent tbh, I just watch the games & cheer for the players I enjoy, dno why everyone feels the need to always talk about X vs Y, just watch the goddamn games I_I | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
I know what you're trying to say, but how should we look at this? Just because these players are born in Korea it doesn't make them genetically superior at Starcraft right? So if we take away their training environment and they move overseas why do we continue to call them " Korean " instead of Foreigner? | ||
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o)_Saurus
Germany260 Posts
On October 21 2012 21:51 justinpal wrote: Doesn't he live in the team house that feeds people meatballs for breakfast? That's gotta make him less Korean. But how much korean was forGG when he trained at the millenium house and participated @iem and so on? By his definition forGG is a foreigner. So our win percentage against koreans is even better! | ||
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
On October 21 2012 21:52 Dodgin wrote: I wouldn't call the Ministry of Win a team house, I would call it a vacation. They still play the game there though. If you want vacation you go to Korea and GomTV house.  | ||
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justinpal
United States3810 Posts
On October 21 2012 21:53 Dodgin wrote: I know what you're trying to say, but how should we look at this? Just because these players are born in Korea it doesn't make them genetically superior at Starcraft right? So if we take away their training environment and they move overseas why do we continue to call them " Korean " instead of Foreigner? They are genetically superior though. | ||
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XaCez
Sweden6991 Posts
Foreigner: A Korean player not living in Korea and not placing well at tournament/A foreigner living outside of Korea. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
If the majority of his success can be attributed to Korean training then yeah sure | ||
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ParadoxFox
60 Posts
On October 21 2012 21:50 Dodgin wrote: This is an interesting way to look at it, and I can't say i disagree. We make the distinction between Foreigner and Korean because of the Korean training and competing in the GSL, right? So is Sage really a Korean in the Starcraft sense? It's an interesting question. No it is retarded because it is completely arbitrary. How long do you need to be away from Korea to be foreigner? 1 week, 2 weeks or a month? And how long do you have to live in Korea to become Korean? And once a foreigner has become a Korean by living in Korea how long does it stays? Do you stop being Korea once you leave the boarders or does it stay for many months? Or is once in a life time deal that you become Korean forever? And what if you live in China close to Korea and play on Korean ladder with good latency, are the Chinese players Korean then to? I could write a book about this. Well I have a solution, how about that people that are raised up and live in Korea, are Koreans. And people that is not borned and raised in Korea are not Koreans. Holy shit I am smart, I just solved it. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
You can't be serious? On October 21 2012 21:55 ParadoxFox wrote: No it is retarded cause it is completely arbitrary. How long do you need to be away from Korea to be foreigner? 1 week, 2 weeks or a month? And wow long do you have to live in Korea to become Korean? And once a foreigner has become a Korean by living in Korea how long does it stays? Do you stop being Korea once you leave the boarders or does it stay for many months? Or is once in a life time deal that you become Korean forever? And what if you live in China close to Korea and play on Korean ladder with good latency, are you the chinese players Korean then to? I could write a book about this. That's exactly why It's an interesting question. | ||
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
Not anymore he returned when he lands in europe he's back to being a european. Naniwa how ever is Korean then ! And we just got ForGG as foreigner HAH Europe won a Starleague ! oh ye. | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
You can't classify these kinds of things. I really only have players I enjoy watching and others I don't really care about. Everything else is just for fun. | ||
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mec
Sweden192 Posts
On October 21 2012 21:49 Champloo wrote: Europeans also defended their homeground against Koreans who train in Korea and play in Code S. Dreamhack Stockholm (Polt, Hyun, Monster, Genius, Puma) won by Thorzain Dreamhack Summer (Hero, Taeja, JYP, Keen, Puma, Vampire) won by Mana Homestory Cup (MVP, MC, Yongwha, Sleep) won by Nerchio You with those silly facts! | ||
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
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