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SnipedSoul
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2158 Posts
July 04 2012 11:52 GMT
#1981
Whirlwind is my least favorite map.
nvrs
Profile Joined October 2010
Greece481 Posts
July 04 2012 11:52 GMT
#1982
On July 04 2012 20:50 shabby wrote:
Genius soooo patient. Just expanding and waiting, siege tanks are difficult to move.


Of course he's patient, Terran can't kill him at that stage of the game. Just wait for him to make 1 mistake and kill him...
Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
July 04 2012 11:53 GMT
#1983
Incredibly boring to watch SC2 games that takes 25-30 minutes end in 5-10 second battles..
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
July 04 2012 11:53 GMT
#1984
On July 04 2012 20:50 manloveman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 20:45 Talack wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:44 manloveman wrote:
Terrans whines beyond belief about balance, until...

"Hey maybe try we should try tanks?"


guess you got shut down pretty quickly there lol


Yes clumping all the tanks like that is the way to siegetank.


It's like Artosis said, tank is ridiculously unforgiving. Spread too much and the Toss deathball will flank you and shred that army with insane firepower. Tanks are pretty bad vs Toss people need to start seeing that o.o
Frex
Profile Joined March 2012
Finland888 Posts
July 04 2012 11:53 GMT
#1985
On July 04 2012 20:48 Stormiii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 20:47 Rokoz wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:45 Stormiii wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:44 Rokoz wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:42 Fragile51 wrote:
siege tanks were bad in TvP they said

make only bio they said


Now BuyN lose.

Yes, they are bad.

When you got 40 less workers, yes they are bad.


So with 40 more workers siege tanks are good, ok I get it now.

If tanks were actually good in TvP you would see them used more.

When u can reinforce your army, yes they are good.


The thing is that when you have siege tanks it's very easy for the mobile Protoss deathball catch the Terran player unsieged just like what happened in this game.

And when it comes to reinforcing Terran is the most ineffective at reinforcing army.
Stormiii
Profile Joined May 2012
Finland239 Posts
July 04 2012 11:53 GMT
#1986
Shame that people don't realize that byun was way behind in economy, thats why he lost.
Walitgon
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia550 Posts
July 04 2012 11:53 GMT
#1987
On July 04 2012 20:50 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 20:49 Walitgon wrote:
TOSSSS OPPPPPPPP

good night sweet prince


Negged
BRB laddering ^_^ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 04 2012 11:53 GMT
#1988
On July 04 2012 20:52 Salteador Neo wrote:
Can't understand how he lost with all those tanks and EMPs, missed the last battle ><

Got caught unsieged and smushed. But he had actually made a comeback already in that game with tanks just by their ability to defend.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
July 04 2012 11:53 GMT
#1989
On July 04 2012 20:51 Waxangel wrote:
It was vaguely reminding me of that game Genius played vs PuMa on that ridiculous new ESV macro map at DHStockholm, and he had an army of only archons, colossi, and templar D:


Yeah definitely, except Byun got 3/3 before Genius that game and PuMa... lol
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
July 04 2012 11:53 GMT
#1990
On July 04 2012 20:52 Havik_ wrote:
I know the Terrans are going to complain about that game, but that could have worked for Byun...



I think someone's gonna cheese in this game.


I'm not complaining I think it was pretty fun to witness a different kind of style. I would've liked to see ghosts earlier from him tbh.

FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4512 Posts
July 04 2012 11:53 GMT
#1991
On July 04 2012 20:51 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 20:51 Horseballs wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:48 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:47 Horseballs wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:46 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:45 Horseballs wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:44 manloveman wrote:
Terrans whines beyond belief about balance, until...

"Hey maybe try we should try tanks?"


Tanks don't do damage to zealots after the tank nerf ages and ages ago

If you look carefully, byun actually used his tanks to target fire the stalkers. They weren;t on auto attack or they would have hit the zealots.


Yeah, but at some point protoss will just make zealot archon and then you need like 10 tank shots to kill something.

Then change comp? No one is saying you have to stick EXCLUSIVELY to tank. :/


That's not how terran works, you don't just instantly warp in shit on the map to tech switch or hold down 4srrrrrrrrrrrrr or 4szzzzzzzzzzz, you have to build an infrastructure and support it. If you invest in tanks, tank upgrades and factories and you don't use them, then why invest at all? It isn't as if zealot archon is weak against standard compositions.

I wanna see you hold 4srrrrrr when you see immortals or maruders.

And btw, zergs were using roaches before the queen buff to counter hellions and had to stop making them when mid game arrived.


wow dude c'mon he replied to you in an appropriate manner and you fire back with that?


lol
hi. big fan.
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4512 Posts
July 04 2012 11:53 GMT
#1992
On July 04 2012 20:53 Walitgon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 20:50 FataLe wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:49 Walitgon wrote:
TOSSSS OPPPPPPPP

good night sweet prince


Negged

i aint even mad
hi. big fan.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
July 04 2012 11:53 GMT
#1993
On July 04 2012 20:52 SnipedSoul wrote:
Whirlwind is my least favorite map.


Agreed. Whirlwind and Spacebear need to be taken out next season and muspelheim should be added.
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
July 04 2012 11:54 GMT
#1994
On July 04 2012 20:51 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 20:51 Horseballs wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:48 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:47 Horseballs wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:46 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:45 Horseballs wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:44 manloveman wrote:
Terrans whines beyond belief about balance, until...

"Hey maybe try we should try tanks?"


Tanks don't do damage to zealots after the tank nerf ages and ages ago

If you look carefully, byun actually used his tanks to target fire the stalkers. They weren;t on auto attack or they would have hit the zealots.


Yeah, but at some point protoss will just make zealot archon and then you need like 10 tank shots to kill something.

Then change comp? No one is saying you have to stick EXCLUSIVELY to tank. :/


That's not how terran works, you don't just instantly warp in shit on the map to tech switch or hold down 4srrrrrrrrrrrrr or 4szzzzzzzzzzz, you have to build an infrastructure and support it. If you invest in tanks, tank upgrades and factories and you don't use them, then why invest at all? It isn't as if zealot archon is weak against standard compositions.

I wanna see you hold 4srrrrrr when you see immortals or maruders.

And btw, zergs were using roaches before the queen buff to counter hellions and had to stop making them when mid game arrived.


Shh, don't give Blizz any more reasons for people to hate Protoss. :p
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
July 04 2012 11:54 GMT
#1995
On July 04 2012 20:53 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 20:52 Havik_ wrote:
I know the Terrans are going to complain about that game, but that could have worked for Byun...



I think someone's gonna cheese in this game.


I'm not complaining I think it was pretty fun to witness a different kind of style. I would've liked to see ghosts earlier from him tbh.



Didn't have the eco, he was on 42 scvs for the majority of the game.
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 11:55:08
July 04 2012 11:54 GMT
#1996
On July 04 2012 20:51 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 20:50 Quotidian wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:47 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:46 Quotidian wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:44 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:43 Quotidian wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:42 Fragile51 wrote:
siege tanks were bad in TvP they said

make only bio they said


what was left over at the end of it all..? Bio

Tanks were still alive actually.


uh, no they weren't.. Byun is making new ones, but his tanks have been wiped out in engagement after engagement. The tanks aren't cost effective or strategically effective at all. Genius just moves through it

Watch the vods when they come out. I was looking at the minimap the whole time. And the tank dots were still there.



when you watch the VODs look at what happened at the first fight at Genius' left expo, when he warped in chargelots. Byun might have tanks on the maps, but they keep dying in almost every fight.

And the ironic thing about this game is that Genius has 2 stargates... eh could've added voidrays to deal with the tanks even easier

So tanks should never die? I don't get what you are saying. The tanks were alive after the first fight. Its more like you wish the tanks were dead to prove some point.



tanks should be worth their cost and supply and they shouldn't be this easily countered. They're not even close to being worth it beyond early timings. The game is 2 years old, tanks in tvp have been figured out, and that game shows that there shouldn't be any debate about siege tanks in the match up at this point
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 11:56:18
July 04 2012 11:54 GMT
#1997
genius played that so sloppily and still won people...byun had to play perfectly to have a chance to win though. spec army positioning.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
HQuality
Profile Joined October 2009
2682 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 11:54:49
July 04 2012 11:54 GMT
#1998
On July 04 2012 20:53 SupLilSon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 20:50 manloveman wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:45 Talack wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:44 manloveman wrote:
Terrans whines beyond belief about balance, until...

"Hey maybe try we should try tanks?"


guess you got shut down pretty quickly there lol


Yes clumping all the tanks like that is the way to siegetank.


It's like Artosis said, tank is ridiculously unforgiving. Spread too much and the Toss deathball will flank you and shred that army with insane firepower. Tanks are pretty bad vs Toss people need to start seeing that o.o

people saw this since the beta
but since noone can't win lategame TvP, people keeps experimenting
No carpal tunnel no skill
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
July 04 2012 11:54 GMT
#1999
On July 04 2012 20:51 Horseballs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 20:48 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:47 Horseballs wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:46 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:45 Horseballs wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:44 manloveman wrote:
Terrans whines beyond belief about balance, until...

"Hey maybe try we should try tanks?"


Tanks don't do damage to zealots after the tank nerf ages and ages ago

If you look carefully, byun actually used his tanks to target fire the stalkers. They weren;t on auto attack or they would have hit the zealots.


Yeah, but at some point protoss will just make zealot archon and then you need like 10 tank shots to kill something.

Then change comp? No one is saying you have to stick EXCLUSIVELY to tank. :/


That's not how terran works, you don't just instantly warp in shit on the map to tech switch or hold down 4srrrrrrrrrrrrr or 4szzzzzzzzzzz, you have to build an infrastructure and support it. If you invest in tanks, tank upgrades and factories and you don't use them, then why invest at all? It isn't as if zealot archon is weak against standard compositions.




R? Did Blizzard show you a super secret gateway unit that nobody knows about? lol.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 11:55:35
July 04 2012 11:54 GMT
#2000
On July 04 2012 20:53 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 20:51 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:51 Horseballs wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:48 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:47 Horseballs wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:46 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:45 Horseballs wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:44 manloveman wrote:
Terrans whines beyond belief about balance, until...

"Hey maybe try we should try tanks?"


Tanks don't do damage to zealots after the tank nerf ages and ages ago

If you look carefully, byun actually used his tanks to target fire the stalkers. They weren;t on auto attack or they would have hit the zealots.


Yeah, but at some point protoss will just make zealot archon and then you need like 10 tank shots to kill something.

Then change comp? No one is saying you have to stick EXCLUSIVELY to tank. :/


That's not how terran works, you don't just instantly warp in shit on the map to tech switch or hold down 4srrrrrrrrrrrrr or 4szzzzzzzzzzz, you have to build an infrastructure and support it. If you invest in tanks, tank upgrades and factories and you don't use them, then why invest at all? It isn't as if zealot archon is weak against standard compositions.

I wanna see you hold 4srrrrrr when you see immortals or maruders.

And btw, zergs were using roaches before the queen buff to counter hellions and had to stop making them when mid game arrived.


wow dude c'mon he replied to you in an appropriate manner and you fire back with that?


lol

That isn't appropriate? Zergs HAVE to invest in roaches before queen buff because of hidden hellion all ins. Then they have to abandoned it after mid game arrived because most terran units counter roaches.
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