• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:01
CEST 12:01
KST 19:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live!19Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters2Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)87Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format16[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!18
StarCraft 2
General
How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Clem: "I don't have that much hope in Blizzard" Weekly Cups (July 13-19): Terran & Protoss rise; Zerg falters [D] Wireframe Casting Removed
Tourneys
IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly INu's Battles#18 - Cure, herO, Rogue & ByuN RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Summer Cup 2026
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Industrial Park New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate
External Content
Mutation # 535 Assembly of Vengeance The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together
Brood War
General
Animated Gateway BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ HORROR STARCRAFT MOVIE How Famous was FlaSh before his Debut?
Tourneys
Escore Tournament - Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend! Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers PvT advise for noobs Fighting Spirit mining rates Creating a full chart of Zerg builds
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Early Access is Now Live! Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread Diablo IV
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread How to buy a book - shipping from Korea to Europe The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
Northern Ireland Global Starcraft The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Role of Gaming on Mental Hea…
TrAiDoS
ASL S22 English Commentary…
namkraft
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3520 users

[Code S] RO16 Group C GSL 2012 Season 3 - Page 98

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 96 97 98 99 100 207 Next
bLecK
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia625 Posts
July 04 2012 11:50 GMT
#1941
Wow that game was siiiick. Hopefully we can see different unit comps like this in TvP more often
Yoo Ara | Lee Min Jung /Suzy/Taeyeon/Eunji/ NaRae/ Alice
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
July 04 2012 11:50 GMT
#1942
Byun played so good, the only reason he lost is the map.
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
July 04 2012 11:50 GMT
#1943
Ouch, that late siege.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
July 04 2012 11:50 GMT
#1944
Easy win for genius, tanks are just so slow! He lost tons of colossi out of pos but the terran can't have his tanks out of position once. Still a nice way to use gas as a terran, but not worth the minerals sadly.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Rammstorm
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1434 Posts
July 04 2012 11:51 GMT
#1945
TvT style TvP was nice, until he died in 1 move lol
"MC" -> Master of Ceremonies xD
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
July 04 2012 11:51 GMT
#1946
and... that's why tanks are not viable in TvP; you have to play so much more perfect than your opponent to win with it. One single seige mistake like Byun did at the end there can cost you the game, while the Protoss can make so many mistakes (god knows how many collosus he lost for being out of position) and still be fine
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
July 04 2012 11:51 GMT
#1947
oh right unsieged the entire pack and then blame siege tanks for being stupid
Breach_hu
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary2431 Posts
July 04 2012 11:51 GMT
#1948
On July 04 2012 20:49 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 20:46 Breach_hu wrote:
why not make hellions with this?

They die to siege tank friendly fire (among other things), and since they're mechanical medivacs won't heal them.

Hellions are pretty much useless at this stage in the game.


they are good for raw dps and bait the toss units in. genius had only 2 colossus and pure zealots. againts that composition with tanks they are good with +2.
Give thanks and praise!
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
July 04 2012 11:51 GMT
#1949
Seems like that composition could actually be good on a better map. Whirlwind is too big as Tasteless said
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
July 04 2012 11:51 GMT
#1950
That game was awesome, regardless it was awesome.

Siege tanks definatley have a good use in TvP but it's so unforgiving that it's not worth it IMO.

Should be alot better in HOTS with battle hellions.
Tula
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1544 Posts
July 04 2012 11:51 GMT
#1951
and byun giving a perfect workshop why you should not build siegetanks against protoss.

Does someone know why he insisted on building siegetank/marauder? Wouldn't siegetank/marine be a better composition? At least then he has something in it that can deal with zealots...
Horseballs
Profile Joined July 2011
United States721 Posts
July 04 2012 11:51 GMT
#1952
On July 04 2012 20:48 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 20:47 Horseballs wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:46 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:45 Horseballs wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:44 manloveman wrote:
Terrans whines beyond belief about balance, until...

"Hey maybe try we should try tanks?"


Tanks don't do damage to zealots after the tank nerf ages and ages ago

If you look carefully, byun actually used his tanks to target fire the stalkers. They weren;t on auto attack or they would have hit the zealots.


Yeah, but at some point protoss will just make zealot archon and then you need like 10 tank shots to kill something.

Then change comp? No one is saying you have to stick EXCLUSIVELY to tank. :/


That's not how terran works, you don't just instantly warp in shit on the map to tech switch or hold down 4srrrrrrrrrrrrr or 4szzzzzzzzzzz, you have to build an infrastructure and support it. If you invest in tanks, tank upgrades and factories and you don't use them, then why invest at all? It isn't as if zealot archon is weak against standard compositions.
Chill Penguin
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia756 Posts
July 04 2012 11:51 GMT
#1953
If their army comes into vision and your tanks are unseiged. You're already dead.
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
July 04 2012 11:51 GMT
#1954
Genius is just better doing better harass.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 04 2012 11:51 GMT
#1955
woo terran shipyard
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
July 04 2012 11:51 GMT
#1956
On July 04 2012 20:50 Quotidian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 20:47 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:46 Quotidian wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:44 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:43 Quotidian wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:42 Fragile51 wrote:
siege tanks were bad in TvP they said

make only bio they said


what was left over at the end of it all..? Bio

Tanks were still alive actually.


uh, no they weren't.. Byun is making new ones, but his tanks have been wiped out in engagement after engagement. The tanks aren't cost effective or strategically effective at all. Genius just moves through it

Watch the vods when they come out. I was looking at the minimap the whole time. And the tank dots were still there.



when you watch the VODs look at what happened at the first fight at Genius' left expo, when he warped in chargelots. Byun might have tanks on the maps, but they keep dying in almost every fight.

And the ironic thing about this game is that Genius has 2 stargates... eh could've added voidrays to deal with the tanks even easier

So tanks should never die? I don't get what you are saying. The tanks were alive after the first fight. Its more like you wish the tanks were dead to prove some point.
speknek
Profile Joined February 2012
758 Posts
July 04 2012 11:51 GMT
#1957
mistake after mistake from genius, doesn't matter, then one mistake by byun and gg =)
Aeceus
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1278 Posts
July 04 2012 11:51 GMT
#1958
On July 04 2012 20:50 Disarmed wrote:
this fucking sucks....a game is decided within 5 seconds.


Yeah I know I feel like you watch for 20-30 minutes for nothing but a few second engagements.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16125 Posts
July 04 2012 11:51 GMT
#1959
On July 04 2012 20:50 Waxangel wrote:
Say what you want about him, Genius is one the best death-ballers around ~_~


Except for that one time, he got his entire army emp'd by TOP and then demolished.....

i'll try and find the vod but it was pretty hilarious.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
July 04 2012 11:51 GMT
#1960
Showed a lot of promise, but i just dont think Whirlwind is a very good map for Tank styles vs protoss...too easy to get caught unsieged.
Prev 1 96 97 98 99 100 207 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
KCM Race Survival
10:00
2026 Season 3 Week 3
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 136
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 1719
firebathero 828
BeSt 371
Mini 298
Zeus 278
Stork 265
Larva 230
Mind 196
Soulkey 184
Bisu 161
[ Show more ]
Jaedong 151
Mong 149
Light 148
actioN 132
Sexy 81
Dewaltoss 69
Killer 53
sorry 42
hero 36
Sharp 36
Movie 34
Shine 31
Aegong 30
yabsab 24
Rush 21
JulyZerg 19
Bale 17
Sacsri 17
ToSsGirL 15
Barracks 10
Hyun 10
Noble 8
ajuk12(nOOB) 7
Terrorterran 1
League of Legends
JimRising 495
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss120
Other Games
gofns9691
FrodaN1880
singsing1266
ceh9929
WinterStarcraft636
crisheroes195
Sick24
Trikslyr16
CosmosSc2 15
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1312
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 52
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH326
• StrangeGG 68
• LUISG 24
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2149
• WagamamaTV16
League of Legends
• Jankos1984
• Stunt720
• HappyZerGling147
Upcoming Events
CrankTV Team League
59m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1h 59m
Replay Cast
13h 59m
Escore
23h 59m
CrankTV Team League
1d
Big Brain Bouts
1d 5h
Soulspirit vs goblin
TriGGeR vs Bunny
Korean StarCraft League
1d 16h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 17h
RSL Revival
1d 22h
Serral vs SHIN
herO vs Solar
Online Event
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Clem vs ByuN
Rogue vs Lambo
OSC
3 days
WardiTV Weekly
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
INu's Battles
5 days
Cure vs herO
ByuN vs Rogue
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
Patches Events
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-07-22
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E3

Ongoing

CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 22: Qualifier #2
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.