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bLecK
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia625 Posts
July 04 2012 11:50 GMT
#1941
Wow that game was siiiick. Hopefully we can see different unit comps like this in TvP more often
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ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
July 04 2012 11:50 GMT
#1942
Byun played so good, the only reason he lost is the map.
Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
July 04 2012 11:50 GMT
#1943
Ouch, that late siege.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
July 04 2012 11:50 GMT
#1944
Easy win for genius, tanks are just so slow! He lost tons of colossi out of pos but the terran can't have his tanks out of position once. Still a nice way to use gas as a terran, but not worth the minerals sadly.
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Rammstorm
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1434 Posts
July 04 2012 11:51 GMT
#1945
TvT style TvP was nice, until he died in 1 move lol
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Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
July 04 2012 11:51 GMT
#1946
and... that's why tanks are not viable in TvP; you have to play so much more perfect than your opponent to win with it. One single seige mistake like Byun did at the end there can cost you the game, while the Protoss can make so many mistakes (god knows how many collosus he lost for being out of position) and still be fine
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
July 04 2012 11:51 GMT
#1947
oh right unsieged the entire pack and then blame siege tanks for being stupid
Breach_hu
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary2431 Posts
July 04 2012 11:51 GMT
#1948
On July 04 2012 20:49 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 20:46 Breach_hu wrote:
why not make hellions with this?

They die to siege tank friendly fire (among other things), and since they're mechanical medivacs won't heal them.

Hellions are pretty much useless at this stage in the game.


they are good for raw dps and bait the toss units in. genius had only 2 colossus and pure zealots. againts that composition with tanks they are good with +2.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
July 04 2012 11:51 GMT
#1949
Seems like that composition could actually be good on a better map. Whirlwind is too big as Tasteless said
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Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
July 04 2012 11:51 GMT
#1950
That game was awesome, regardless it was awesome.

Siege tanks definatley have a good use in TvP but it's so unforgiving that it's not worth it IMO.

Should be alot better in HOTS with battle hellions.
Tula
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1544 Posts
July 04 2012 11:51 GMT
#1951
and byun giving a perfect workshop why you should not build siegetanks against protoss.

Does someone know why he insisted on building siegetank/marauder? Wouldn't siegetank/marine be a better composition? At least then he has something in it that can deal with zealots...
Horseballs
Profile Joined July 2011
United States721 Posts
July 04 2012 11:51 GMT
#1952
On July 04 2012 20:48 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 20:47 Horseballs wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:46 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:45 Horseballs wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:44 manloveman wrote:
Terrans whines beyond belief about balance, until...

"Hey maybe try we should try tanks?"


Tanks don't do damage to zealots after the tank nerf ages and ages ago

If you look carefully, byun actually used his tanks to target fire the stalkers. They weren;t on auto attack or they would have hit the zealots.


Yeah, but at some point protoss will just make zealot archon and then you need like 10 tank shots to kill something.

Then change comp? No one is saying you have to stick EXCLUSIVELY to tank. :/


That's not how terran works, you don't just instantly warp in shit on the map to tech switch or hold down 4srrrrrrrrrrrrr or 4szzzzzzzzzzz, you have to build an infrastructure and support it. If you invest in tanks, tank upgrades and factories and you don't use them, then why invest at all? It isn't as if zealot archon is weak against standard compositions.
Chill Penguin
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia756 Posts
July 04 2012 11:51 GMT
#1953
If their army comes into vision and your tanks are unseiged. You're already dead.
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
July 04 2012 11:51 GMT
#1954
Genius is just better doing better harass.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 04 2012 11:51 GMT
#1955
woo terran shipyard
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ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
July 04 2012 11:51 GMT
#1956
On July 04 2012 20:50 Quotidian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 20:47 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:46 Quotidian wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:44 ImNightmare wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:43 Quotidian wrote:
On July 04 2012 20:42 Fragile51 wrote:
siege tanks were bad in TvP they said

make only bio they said


what was left over at the end of it all..? Bio

Tanks were still alive actually.


uh, no they weren't.. Byun is making new ones, but his tanks have been wiped out in engagement after engagement. The tanks aren't cost effective or strategically effective at all. Genius just moves through it

Watch the vods when they come out. I was looking at the minimap the whole time. And the tank dots were still there.



when you watch the VODs look at what happened at the first fight at Genius' left expo, when he warped in chargelots. Byun might have tanks on the maps, but they keep dying in almost every fight.

And the ironic thing about this game is that Genius has 2 stargates... eh could've added voidrays to deal with the tanks even easier

So tanks should never die? I don't get what you are saying. The tanks were alive after the first fight. Its more like you wish the tanks were dead to prove some point.
speknek
Profile Joined February 2012
758 Posts
July 04 2012 11:51 GMT
#1957
mistake after mistake from genius, doesn't matter, then one mistake by byun and gg =)
Aeceus
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1278 Posts
July 04 2012 11:51 GMT
#1958
On July 04 2012 20:50 Disarmed wrote:
this fucking sucks....a game is decided within 5 seconds.


Yeah I know I feel like you watch for 20-30 minutes for nothing but a few second engagements.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16118 Posts
July 04 2012 11:51 GMT
#1959
On July 04 2012 20:50 Waxangel wrote:
Say what you want about him, Genius is one the best death-ballers around ~_~


Except for that one time, he got his entire army emp'd by TOP and then demolished.....

i'll try and find the vod but it was pretty hilarious.
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Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
July 04 2012 11:51 GMT
#1960
Showed a lot of promise, but i just dont think Whirlwind is a very good map for Tank styles vs protoss...too easy to get caught unsieged.
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