EPT[Code S] RO16 Group C GSL 2012 Season 3 - Page 99
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SC2ShoWTimE
Germany722 Posts
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
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Thrombozyt
Germany1269 Posts
On July 04 2012 20:49 MCDayC wrote: So yeah, Tanks obviously are effective vP. Its not an autowin, but its working. Which is awesome. Yes, tanks are effective vs protoss IF you manage to get more than 10, the protoss plays sloppy and takes volleys without committing, you are always sieged, there aren't too many air units, archons or zealots and you can contain the protoss expansions. Now I don't know.. but there are many non-viable strategies that contain less ifs.. | ||
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Belha
Italy2850 Posts
On July 04 2012 20:50 stuchiu wrote: So 20 minutes of great gameplay lost to 1 bad position, no wonder other terrans just stick with mmm. Is just the fking Protoss way in this game. As protoss every freaking match up decides in 1 battle u.u | ||
Waxangel
United States33713 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
I don't know if they are the strongest race when played perfectly. But I do know that it is currently the least forgiving in the non mirror match ups. | ||
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HQuality
2682 Posts
On July 04 2012 20:50 ElephantBaby wrote: Byun played so good, the only reason he lost is the map. nah man the only reason he was suppose to lose is the map but he could actually win this | ||
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ImNightmare
1575 Posts
On July 04 2012 20:51 Horseballs wrote: That's not how terran works, you don't just instantly warp in shit on the map to tech switch or hold down 4srrrrrrrrrrrrr or 4szzzzzzzzzzz, you have to build an infrastructure and support it. If you invest in tanks, tank upgrades and factories and you don't use them, then why invest at all? It isn't as if zealot archon is weak against standard compositions. I wanna see you hold 4srrrrrr when you see immortals or maruders. And btw, zergs were using roaches before the queen buff to counter hellions and had to stop making them when mid game arrived. | ||
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Chantastic
86 Posts
On July 04 2012 20:49 Logros wrote: That looked like TvZ where a terran forgets to siege  . Not even close.Except it's worse because the "Zerglings" have 200 health and they have Broodlords (Collossi) and Ultras (Archons) in a standard comp. | ||
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blacksheepwall
China1530 Posts
On July 04 2012 20:50 Disarmed wrote: this fucking sucks....a game is decided within 5 seconds. I love that volatility. But I feel like I'm the only one. If you lose your ENTIRE army, obviously you're going to lose the game. Battles do happen stupid fast in SC:II though. | ||
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proofy
Canada283 Posts
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rothsbury
Australia1654 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33713 Posts
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
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Havik_
United States5585 Posts
I think someone's gonna cheese in this game. | ||
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Ewic
Canada121 Posts
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Exarl25
1887 Posts
On July 04 2012 20:51 Fubi wrote: and... that's why tanks are not viable in TvP; you have to play so much more perfect than your opponent to win with it. One single seige mistake like Byun did at the end there can cost you the game, while the Protoss can make so many mistakes (god knows how many collosus he lost for being out of position) and still be fine Seen plenty of TvT and TvZ end like that, it's a simple fact of going for such a composition that if you are caught unsieged you are fucked, regardless of the matchup. | ||
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MangoMountain
Norway2044 Posts
On July 04 2012 20:51 Waxangel wrote: It was vaguely reminding me of that game Genius played vs PuMa on that ridiculous new ESV macro map at DHStockholm, and he had an army of only archons, colossi, and templar D: That game was painful to watch | ||
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Waxangel
United States33713 Posts
On July 04 2012 20:52 rothsbury wrote: The reason why tanks don't work that well is chargelots. Chargelots are the most cost efficient units in the game. Before charge zealots are really good: they only cost 100 mins and have very good DPS, but this is counteracted by their relatively low speed and the fact that they are melée. But with charge they connect almost instantly, which largely removes their only drawback. Even marines (generally thought to be really cost efficient) still have the vulnerability to splash throughout the entire game. But zealots have an upgrade that largely removes their disadvantage. The only way you can really handle them as terran is to constantly kite back with stimmed units, but this obviously doesn't work with sieged tanks. If your army stays with the tanks it is crushed by high HP high DPS zealots, and if your bio kites back the zealots will tear through the tanks. makes sense D: | ||
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
On July 04 2012 20:50 ElephantBaby wrote: Byun played so good, the only reason he lost is the map. Genius played good too... | ||
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