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Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
June 28 2012 12:46 GMT
#3441
He's doing the same exact thing again. This should be good.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
rothsbury
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia1654 Posts
June 28 2012 12:46 GMT
#3442
Khaldor is absolutely right.... wtf drops? 300/300 wasted.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
June 28 2012 12:46 GMT
#3443
On June 28 2012 21:46 Tsubbi wrote:
cancel god damn drop symbol you silly goose


Call the bluff, Squirtle is going to expand this time.
Ireniicus
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom374 Posts
June 28 2012 12:46 GMT
#3444
On June 28 2012 21:43 ZenithM wrote:
For everyone advising adding ghosts, ravens, or reapers, you don't understand MKP's style.
MKP is all about trading units more cost efficiently than his opponent. But to do that he needs replenishable units or units that just don't die. Against Zerg everything on the ground will eventually get cleaned up, so you can't use ghosts very well (they're kinda slow too). Even tanks are a bit hard to keep alive with MKP's style, that's why he doesn't make them in very high numbers (he could siege them earlier however ;D).
In the air, medivacs are kind of a good choice, they're fast, and can be reactored, so kinda replenishable and you can keep them alive easily even after being cleaned up.
In the end it just makes sense that all MKP produces is marine, marauders, hellions, medivacs and some tanks, that's essentially every tradable-ish unit Terran has.

If you want to play the ghosts/raven/mech/whatever slow push game, you need a much more turtlish style than what MKP likes to play. The fact that MKP doesn't make PF's is also related to this btw.

Whether this is a good TvZ style or not I don't know, but it's certainly good enough against lower Zergs than Symbol for someone with MKP's mechanics.


it is a great strategy but once BL are on the field you need to use your mobility advantage so reapers or medicvac drops were the way to go ...at least until he had double digit vikings
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 28 2012 12:47 GMT
#3445
On June 28 2012 21:45 andaylin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:42 Fragile51 wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:41 noddy wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:38 Moskau wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:32 ZenithM wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:28 Moskau wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:27 ZenithM wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:25 dragonborn wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:24 noddy wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:23 dragonborn wrote:
[quote]
Your tears are delicious.

SYMBOL DESTROYED MKP, YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.


Zerg beating Terran despite playing terrible, shocker!

Now hopefully Symbol will die to Squirtle

Thats okay since MKP being fourth in this group, hahahahahah.

stop whining and watch Polt's TvZ.

MKP is overrated in Korea.

You mean "watch Polt's Code A TvZ"?


You mean watch MKP Code A matches? You realize he goes to Code A because he lost in the group right?

He's still placed higher than Polt bro. I don't get the MKP-Polt comparison, it's pretty clear who the better player is. Polt is essentially even with Stephano or a bit lower with the new metagame. MKP trashed Stephano at MLG last time.


If by trashed you mean almost lost? MKP is still a gimmicky player, 15 cc or all-in, that's all he does. Anyway bro, the facts are you were saying Polt was bad compared to MKP because hes in code a, somewhat unfortunate considering MKP literally just got knocked down into code a.


He's not in Code A. Get your facts straight, please.

He's also the player who has probably the most builds out of any player but yeah, he's definitely "gimmicky" rofl.


He is in Code A, get your facts straight please >_>

He is not. I don't understand why people don't understand Gsl after so many seasons with this format

Marineking is in Code A..... He got 4th place in the ro16. You get dropped to the 3rd round of Code A. If you win you are directly back into code S. if you lose, you go to up and downs
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Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 12:47:42
June 28 2012 12:47 GMT
#3446
On June 28 2012 21:44 Evangelist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:39 rothsbury wrote:
The terran tears are soooo sweet. You who mocked zerg and protoss when they struggled against terran now can't handle a challenging matchup. MKP is truly your idol.



Er. Terran has been handling the absurd Z and P lategame for nearly a year now and have slowly but surely had all of their early pressure abusive builds nerfed into nothing. TvP is now almost universally decided by the outcome of a 10 minute push. TvZ used to be decided by 3rd base denial into an awesome late game.

You did not have forums full of terrans going "LOL L2P"
because the amazing terrans at GSL were not representative of the experience except for a very brief period where terran could a move into a protoss army because not a single one of you bothered to build templar.

Terrans have not had it "easy" for years. We've just had arguably the best player in the world playing our race.


That's quite wrong. But it was largely a L2P thing with some somewhat minor nerfs, it just took a very long time to develop. More than the month terran has been doing bad.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
June 28 2012 12:47 GMT
#3447
On June 28 2012 21:42 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:41 noddy wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:38 Moskau wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:32 ZenithM wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:28 Moskau wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:27 ZenithM wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:25 dragonborn wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:24 noddy wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:23 dragonborn wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:23 noddy wrote:
gg zerg!

Your tears are delicious.

SYMBOL DESTROYED MKP, YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.


Zerg beating Terran despite playing terrible, shocker!

Now hopefully Symbol will die to Squirtle

Thats okay since MKP being fourth in this group, hahahahahah.

stop whining and watch Polt's TvZ.

MKP is overrated in Korea.

You mean "watch Polt's Code A TvZ"?


You mean watch MKP Code A matches? You realize he goes to Code A because he lost in the group right?

He's still placed higher than Polt bro. I don't get the MKP-Polt comparison, it's pretty clear who the better player is. Polt is essentially even with Stephano or a bit lower with the new metagame. MKP trashed Stephano at MLG last time.


If by trashed you mean almost lost? MKP is still a gimmicky player, 15 cc or all-in, that's all he does. Anyway bro, the facts are you were saying Polt was bad compared to MKP because hes in code a, somewhat unfortunate considering MKP literally just got knocked down into code a.


He's not in Code A. Get your facts straight, please.

He's also the player who has probably the most builds out of any player but yeah, he's definitely "gimmicky" rofl.


He is in Code A, get your facts straight please >_>

Well he just lost a Code S TvZ that was my point. When was the last time Polt played a Code S TvZ?
Didn't happen in 2012 ;D
stipe145
Profile Joined December 2010
764 Posts
June 28 2012 12:47 GMT
#3448
Immortals,maybe he wont cancel.
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
June 28 2012 12:47 GMT
#3449
I still can't believe that MC walks out at the head of the this group. I can't wait to go back and watch the VODs.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
BuzZoo
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1468 Posts
June 28 2012 12:47 GMT
#3450
On June 28 2012 21:43 ZenithM wrote:
For everyone advising adding ghosts, ravens, or reapers, you don't understand MKP's style.
MKP is all about trading units more cost efficiently than his opponent. But to do that he needs replenishable units or units that just don't die. Against Zerg everything on the ground will eventually get cleaned up, so you can't use ghosts very well (they're kinda slow too). Even tanks are a bit hard to keep alive with MKP's style, that's why he doesn't make them in very high numbers (he could siege them earlier however ;D).
In the air, medivacs are kind of a good choice, they're fast, and can be reactored, so kinda replenishable and you can keep them alive easily even after being cleaned up.
In the end it just makes sense that all MKP produces is marine, marauders, hellions, medivacs and some tanks, that's essentially every tradable-ish unit Terran has.

If you want to play the ghosts/raven/mech/whatever slow push game, you need a much more turtlish style than what MKP likes to play. The fact that MKP doesn't make PF's is also related to this btw.

Whether this is a good TvZ style or not I don't know, but it's certainly good enough against lower Zergs than Symbol for someone with MKP's mechanics.


People like you keep this thread readable. Excellent points. I think he can adapt his style in time. He used to be the guy who was known to only make marines.
Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
June 28 2012 12:47 GMT
#3451
I love the fake warp prism play
The Wood League - Where a double gas opening can still mean a Marine/SCV all-in
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
June 28 2012 12:47 GMT
#3452
He's mind gaming the fuck outta Symbol right now.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
soverRR
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden348 Posts
June 28 2012 12:47 GMT
#3453
On June 28 2012 21:46 Testuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:44 -TesteR- wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:42 Testuser wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:42 -TesteR- wrote:
8-2 Squirtle and 7-1 Symbol on daybreak


15-3?


o.O? Their winrates on the map.


1-1?


Total GSL games, not just this round.
rothsbury
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia1654 Posts
June 28 2012 12:47 GMT
#3454
8 gate blink into 3rd... hmmm... something tells me this is not going to work.
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
June 28 2012 12:47 GMT
#3455
What, this isn't an all-in? That Nexus is real? Squritle with the jedi mind tricks. Who goes 8 gate + robo into 3rd nexus O_O
Whynaut
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada367 Posts
June 28 2012 12:47 GMT
#3456
:O squirtle faked messing up and flying by the tower with his fake WP.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
June 28 2012 12:48 GMT
#3457
On June 28 2012 21:45 andaylin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:42 Fragile51 wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:41 noddy wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:38 Moskau wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:32 ZenithM wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:28 Moskau wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:27 ZenithM wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:25 dragonborn wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:24 noddy wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:23 dragonborn wrote:
[quote]
Your tears are delicious.

SYMBOL DESTROYED MKP, YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.


Zerg beating Terran despite playing terrible, shocker!

Now hopefully Symbol will die to Squirtle

Thats okay since MKP being fourth in this group, hahahahahah.

stop whining and watch Polt's TvZ.

MKP is overrated in Korea.

You mean "watch Polt's Code A TvZ"?


You mean watch MKP Code A matches? You realize he goes to Code A because he lost in the group right?

He's still placed higher than Polt bro. I don't get the MKP-Polt comparison, it's pretty clear who the better player is. Polt is essentially even with Stephano or a bit lower with the new metagame. MKP trashed Stephano at MLG last time.


If by trashed you mean almost lost? MKP is still a gimmicky player, 15 cc or all-in, that's all he does. Anyway bro, the facts are you were saying Polt was bad compared to MKP because hes in code a, somewhat unfortunate considering MKP literally just got knocked down into code a.


He's not in Code A. Get your facts straight, please.

He's also the player who has probably the most builds out of any player but yeah, he's definitely "gimmicky" rofl.


He is in Code A, get your facts straight please >_>

He is not. I don't understand why people don't understand Gsl after so many seasons with this format


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_3/Code_A#Matches_Round_of_48

I know right? Because i think i see Marineking in the last round of Code A right here.
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
June 28 2012 12:48 GMT
#3458
no wall at 3rd....
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
June 28 2012 12:48 GMT
#3459
Observer is in the perfect position Khaldor.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
June 28 2012 12:48 GMT
#3460
I've been upset about the latest patch, just like pretty much every other terran - so much so that I stopped playing - but the MKP Symbol match didn't look broken to me. I think Symbol would've won regardless of the recent buffs, he was clearly the better player.

Also, MC's girlfriend gives hope to all chubby nerds (with money) everywhere
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