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adiga
Profile Joined July 2011
495 Posts
June 28 2012 12:44 GMT
#3421
On June 28 2012 21:37 Megiddosc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:32 adiga wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:26 -TesteR- wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:24 Koshi wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:23 Kettchup wrote:
Are Ghosts really that ineffective in TvZ? Infestors just control the match-up so well, I'd like to see someone at least try to use them.

1 full ghost can snipe 4 infestors. I also don't understand it.


Symbol also has his infestors clumped all game long, would have been nice to see some EMPs


with EMPs radius youll probably hit 0-2 at the most.

Not sure why terrans say this. I assume because it's urban legend or something. KawaiiRice today won a game in TSL qualifiers against tgun by having 2 cloaked ghosts completely emp blanket about 8-10 infestors. Won him the game. Try it. Sure, it takes micro, but ghosts are quite effective against infestor if microed properly.


Why do always people bring up some random example that happened to support a stupid claim?
Oh I killed today a zerg with 4 hellions run-by why doesn't every terran do that?
The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now.
-TesteR-
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1165 Posts
June 28 2012 12:44 GMT
#3422
On June 28 2012 21:42 Testuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:42 -TesteR- wrote:
8-2 Squirtle and 7-1 Symbol on daybreak


15-3?


o.O? Their winrates on the map.
BigFoig
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada52 Posts
June 28 2012 12:44 GMT
#3423
Mods please ban dragonborn, he has been hating and trolling the whole time. Thank You
KingSizeRJ
Profile Joined May 2012
60 Posts
June 28 2012 12:44 GMT
#3424
On June 28 2012 21:42 Wildmoon wrote:
Without MVP and MKP, Can Taeja carry terran's hope?

No.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 28 2012 12:44 GMT
#3425
On June 28 2012 21:42 CaptainCharisma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:42 xNebulous wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:40 Tribuno wrote:
its incredible to read comment about symbol beeing good ONLY because the patch.. i m really sure that if they return to queen range 4, symbol will leave the scene immediately like someone said.. sure. Symbol is a great player, good macro, good unit control, smart enough.


i know it's disgusting how people just write off player's wins because of "imbalance"



Like Jinro's?

no comment. idiot.
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
June 28 2012 12:45 GMT
#3426
On June 28 2012 21:43 Hall0wed wrote:
Daybreak again, interested if Squirtle uses his 3 base +3 blink and immortals build like he was trying for last time. Could be some good mind games if Symbol scouts him and thinks its a push again.


Yes looks like its this 3 base build.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
June 28 2012 12:45 GMT
#3427
On June 28 2012 21:24 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:23 Kettchup wrote:
Are Ghosts really that ineffective in TvZ? Infestors just control the match-up so well, I'd like to see someone at least try to use them.


Yes, since they get countered by zergings and banelings and even infestors if zergs have overseers. Ghost are the hardest caster to retain unlike infestors/templars since they need to be in the front to hit the casters.

Wtf hahaha, countered by zerglings and banelings? What does that even mean? Marauders counter infestors then, since they can shoot them right? And what the hell does "need to be in front mean"?? Snipe has a much longer range than the other spells, you can keep them in the back and not even use their regular attack. I don't know if ghosts are the best choice, but nothing you said makes sense at all.
OhSix
Profile Joined October 2011
United States252 Posts
June 28 2012 12:45 GMT
#3428
On June 28 2012 21:42 aznball123 wrote:
yeah guys mc is gettin laid tonight


Advance in most prestigious SC2 tournament, win money all the time stomping on foreigner tournaments, attractive girlfriend... MC really is living the life, huh?
What you preach is worthless, your worship defeat the purpose, like president Bush taking bullets for the secret service.
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
June 28 2012 12:45 GMT
#3429
On June 28 2012 21:44 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:42 CaptainCharisma wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:42 xNebulous wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:40 Tribuno wrote:
its incredible to read comment about symbol beeing good ONLY because the patch.. i m really sure that if they return to queen range 4, symbol will leave the scene immediately like someone said.. sure. Symbol is a great player, good macro, good unit control, smart enough.


i know it's disgusting how people just write off player's wins because of "imbalance"



Like Jinro's?

no comment. idiot.


you made a comment after your no comment.
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
Tibbroar
Profile Joined June 2011
United States161 Posts
June 28 2012 12:45 GMT
#3430
On June 28 2012 21:43 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:41 Tibbroar wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:39 Sent. wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:36 Stanlot wrote:
Just remembered MVP also got knocked out this round. Was the LR thread for that night bad too?


mvp played really bad and second terran in the group managed to advance so it wasn't that bad.


Mvp may have played like crap against Taeja but he ridiculously outplayed Curious... only for it to not matter because lulz TvZ.


He didn't even play Curious.


Yeah, I realized that after I posted that. Forgive me, I'm an Mvp fanboy and still a little blinded by bitterness.
I will always believe in the fallen king.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
June 28 2012 12:45 GMT
#3431
He's going to go Mutalisk vs this??
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
June 28 2012 12:45 GMT
#3432
On June 28 2012 21:42 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:41 noddy wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:38 Moskau wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:32 ZenithM wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:28 Moskau wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:27 ZenithM wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:25 dragonborn wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:24 noddy wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:23 dragonborn wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:23 noddy wrote:
gg zerg!

Your tears are delicious.

SYMBOL DESTROYED MKP, YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAH.


Zerg beating Terran despite playing terrible, shocker!

Now hopefully Symbol will die to Squirtle

Thats okay since MKP being fourth in this group, hahahahahah.

stop whining and watch Polt's TvZ.

MKP is overrated in Korea.

You mean "watch Polt's Code A TvZ"?


You mean watch MKP Code A matches? You realize he goes to Code A because he lost in the group right?

He's still placed higher than Polt bro. I don't get the MKP-Polt comparison, it's pretty clear who the better player is. Polt is essentially even with Stephano or a bit lower with the new metagame. MKP trashed Stephano at MLG last time.


If by trashed you mean almost lost? MKP is still a gimmicky player, 15 cc or all-in, that's all he does. Anyway bro, the facts are you were saying Polt was bad compared to MKP because hes in code a, somewhat unfortunate considering MKP literally just got knocked down into code a.


He's not in Code A. Get your facts straight, please.

He's also the player who has probably the most builds out of any player but yeah, he's definitely "gimmicky" rofl.


He is in Code A, get your facts straight please >_>

He is not. I don't understand why people don't understand Gsl after so many seasons with this format
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
June 28 2012 12:46 GMT
#3433
On June 28 2012 21:44 -TesteR- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:42 Testuser wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:42 -TesteR- wrote:
8-2 Squirtle and 7-1 Symbol on daybreak


15-3?


o.O? Their winrates on the map.


1-1?
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liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
June 28 2012 12:46 GMT
#3434
rofl Khaldor is off his bananas tonight... "owwwhhh yeaaaaaahhhhaahhh" almost Duke Nukemish
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Whynaut
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada367 Posts
June 28 2012 12:46 GMT
#3435
On June 28 2012 21:44 adiga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:37 Megiddosc wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:32 adiga wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:26 -TesteR- wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:24 Koshi wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:23 Kettchup wrote:
Are Ghosts really that ineffective in TvZ? Infestors just control the match-up so well, I'd like to see someone at least try to use them.

1 full ghost can snipe 4 infestors. I also don't understand it.


Symbol also has his infestors clumped all game long, would have been nice to see some EMPs


with EMPs radius youll probably hit 0-2 at the most.

Not sure why terrans say this. I assume because it's urban legend or something. KawaiiRice today won a game in TSL qualifiers against tgun by having 2 cloaked ghosts completely emp blanket about 8-10 infestors. Won him the game. Try it. Sure, it takes micro, but ghosts are quite effective against infestor if microed properly.


Why do always people bring up some random example that happened to support a stupid claim?
Oh I killed today a zerg with 4 hellions run-by why doesn't every terran do that?


Cause it proves him right?
Dalavita
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1113 Posts
June 28 2012 12:46 GMT
#3436
On June 28 2012 21:41 Heavenlee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:37 Megiddosc wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:32 adiga wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:26 -TesteR- wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:24 Koshi wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:23 Kettchup wrote:
Are Ghosts really that ineffective in TvZ? Infestors just control the match-up so well, I'd like to see someone at least try to use them.

1 full ghost can snipe 4 infestors. I also don't understand it.


Symbol also has his infestors clumped all game long, would have been nice to see some EMPs


with EMPs radius youll probably hit 0-2 at the most.

Not sure why terrans say this. I assume because it's urban legend or something. KawaiiRice today won a game in TSL qualifiers against tgun by having 2 cloaked ghosts completely emp blanket about 8-10 infestors. Won him the game. Try it. Sure, it takes micro, but ghosts are quite effective against infestor if microed properly.


Terrans have regressed MAJORLY in ghost usage---understandable in some areas but they aren't even using them in areas they used to excel at and weren't affected by nerfs. There were times a year ago where people would run in a couple cloaked ghosts and snipe off a huge amount of infestors. Despite the nerf, if an overseer is present (there usually isn't) it may possibly be sniped down as well. Now people will theorycraft saying "that's impossible, only an idiot zerg would let that happen" because in the World of Theorycrafting, all players are perfect and you must point out the worst possible scenario in all cases.

I've seen some games recently where people actually started using ghosts and they were insanely effective, even though people will theorycraft all day that ghosts will never do anything because fungal outranges them by .56355.



I'll quote myself again:

On June 28 2012 21:31 Dalavita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:23 Kettchup wrote:
Are Ghosts really that ineffective in TvZ? Infestors just control the match-up so well, I'd like to see someone at least try to use them.


The reason they aren't used is because they're useless vs everything else zerg and mediocre at best vs infestors directly, and even worse against stopping the fungals before the infestors get killed off against a player who is paying attention. You're better off getting siege tanks for the same cost and supply since they can deal with both infestors and the rest of zergs ground while giving you control.


If you want to make ghosts and get cloaking for the one time chance of getting in and sniping a fuckton of infestors, and still have the ghosts be useless against everything else that's zerg, go for it. But people will start paying attention to it when it starts happening, and you're still better off getting more siege tanks.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
June 28 2012 12:46 GMT
#3437
cancel god damn drop symbol you silly goose
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 28 2012 12:46 GMT
#3438
shut up khaldor, just shut up seriously

User was temp banned for this post.
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
June 28 2012 12:46 GMT
#3439
This has to be a fake Nexus by Squirtle...
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
June 28 2012 12:46 GMT
#3440
It symbol loses to this twice...
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