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wildstyle1337
Profile Joined September 2011
Poland514 Posts
June 17 2012 18:12 GMT
#3501
Mana 1 Bly 0
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 17 2012 18:12 GMT
#3502
MouzMana 1-0 Acer.Bly.
Glorious SEA doto
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
June 17 2012 18:12 GMT
#3503
On June 18 2012 03:10 Swords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 03:07 Promethelax wrote:
On June 18 2012 03:05 Swords wrote:
On June 18 2012 03:01 graNite wrote:
On June 18 2012 02:49 ohampatu wrote:
On June 18 2012 02:48 graNite wrote:
P-T-Z
13-4-15

Yeah seems even



Standard when you dont invite: Kas, Goody, Cloud..........Do you get my point? Its been discussed. Not many high EU terrans were invited. and the ones that are here are not doing as well as they should.


terran being weak isn't the problem this tourney


so? it is still not close to even. khaldor and i didnt say anything about their skill. dou you get my point?


On top of that, this isn't the only place where Terrans are getting roflstomped. Look at the GTSL stats, look at DRG vs. MKP at MLG. Look at the interview with MVP. The latest patch has turned that matchup to shit.

I don't even play Terran, but as a fan of the game it's stupid to watch.

Meanwhile, in a standard (emphasis here) PvT the Protoss is expected to just hold on for dear life in the early game, and the Terran is supposed to die if they let Protoss get late game. This is because Blizzard decided that it's more fun to have each race be OP depending on what time in the game it is.


Sculp and Jjakji would like a word. (and ST is the worst team in the world if Terran really is that UP right now)


That's fair. NSHS knows what's up.


They sure know how to ruin my liquibet scores
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
IRL_Sinister
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Ireland621 Posts
June 17 2012 18:12 GMT
#3504
On June 18 2012 03:09 mycro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 03:08 IRL_Sinister wrote:
On June 18 2012 03:06 mycro wrote:
On June 18 2012 03:05 Chenz wrote:
On June 18 2012 03:05 fanvadmeck wrote:
Eh why are they showing naniwa - livezerg again?

Because in a Bo3 you have to play at least 2 games?


livezerg already won 2-1 >_>!


rofl


The first stream had 1-1 in the scores.. even liquipedia said LiveZerg had won 2-1.. now it changed back



http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=345589&currentpage=171#3414
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
June 17 2012 18:12 GMT
#3505
europe so strong again :D

fraer beats puma and vampire, livezerg about to beat naniwa (well - korean training at least) - i think lots of ppl still underestimate many eu players
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
June 17 2012 18:12 GMT
#3506
MaNa also takes the 1:0 lead over his zerg opponent Bly. He is advanced for sure. If he wins the series and Harstem does the same, harstem will be through aswell.
Skyline026
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands1129 Posts
June 17 2012 18:12 GMT
#3507
Mana with the money vortex!

1-0
Liquid'Ret - Mana - Liquid'Dota fighting!
shr0ud
Profile Joined April 2011
Finland222 Posts
June 17 2012 18:12 GMT
#3508
On June 18 2012 03:11 zezamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 03:09 revel8 wrote:
On June 18 2012 03:01 Shiori wrote:
On June 18 2012 03:00 ohampatu wrote:
On June 18 2012 02:59 Tpox wrote:
On June 18 2012 02:51 ohampatu wrote:
On June 18 2012 02:50 AxionSteel wrote:
On June 18 2012 02:49 ohampatu wrote:
On June 18 2012 02:48 graNite wrote:
P-T-Z
13-4-15

Yeah seems even



Standard when you dont invite: Kas, Goody, Cloud..........Do you get my point? Its been discussed. Not many high EU terrans were invited. and the ones that are here are not doing as well as they should.


terran being weak isn't the problem this tourney


lmfao, you actually think Goody and cloud would fare better than PuMa? haha



No. I mean that if more than 4 good terrans were invited, they would be in the list.

The terrans that made it are the only good terrans.

Also...Goody vs MMA would like a word



I seriuosly have no idea how many times during these two days it have been said but DH is an OPEN tournament, there is no invites what so ever!!



so flip out for no reason?

ok then, no good terrans qualified....If more terrans had qualified/entered into the qualifiers, they would be there.

Its a race representation problem. Not a balance issue. My point still stands.

Wtf? Who are the amazing Zergs at this event? Cytoplasm?


I would mention Stephano here, but a nameless party would just flip out and start babbling about him once having an alcoholic drink and being wanted by the FBI as a result.

He also didn't call them women

*GASP*
pellejohnson
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1931 Posts
June 17 2012 18:12 GMT
#3509
This is just embarrassing play from naniwa
NeonFox
Profile Joined January 2011
2373 Posts
June 17 2012 18:13 GMT
#3510
Everything is going wrong for him this game.
NHY
Profile Joined October 2010
1013 Posts
June 17 2012 18:13 GMT
#3511
Jävla Terran Zerg
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
June 17 2012 18:13 GMT
#3512
Wow Livezerg really owning Naniwa. No joke
Play your best
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15737 Posts
June 17 2012 18:13 GMT
#3513
On June 18 2012 03:12 KalWarkov wrote:
europe so strong again :D

fraer beats puma and vampire, livezerg about to beat naniwa (well - korean training at least) - i think lots of ppl still underestimate many eu players


Europe just isn't as refined. These results happen, but unfortunately not consistently enough
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 17 2012 18:13 GMT
#3514
FXO.BratOk 2-0 Snute.
The destroyer cares little for zerg favour in TvZ.
Glorious SEA doto
MangoMountain
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2044 Posts
June 17 2012 18:13 GMT
#3515
Bratok, the terran hope!
mycro
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1579 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 18:13:58
June 17 2012 18:13 GMT
#3516
On June 18 2012 03:12 IRL_Sinister wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 03:09 mycro wrote:
On June 18 2012 03:08 IRL_Sinister wrote:
On June 18 2012 03:06 mycro wrote:
On June 18 2012 03:05 Chenz wrote:
On June 18 2012 03:05 fanvadmeck wrote:
Eh why are they showing naniwa - livezerg again?

Because in a Bo3 you have to play at least 2 games?


livezerg already won 2-1 >_>!


rofl


The first stream had 1-1 in the scores.. even liquipedia said LiveZerg had won 2-1.. now it changed back



http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=345589&currentpage=171#3414


I will trust you above stream scores and liquipedia updates in the future, dont worry.
CygnusAres
Profile Joined August 2011
Singapore893 Posts
June 17 2012 18:14 GMT
#3517
lol, Stuck immortal.
"I am the master of my fate, I am the captain of my soul" - Invictus. Favorite Players: TaeJa, Bogus, and Zest, Fighting!
Sp00ly
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1546 Posts
June 17 2012 18:14 GMT
#3518
Standard 13 minute Immortal.
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
June 17 2012 18:14 GMT
#3519
On June 18 2012 03:09 c78331 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 03:05 ohampatu wrote:
On June 18 2012 03:04 c78331 wrote:
On June 18 2012 02:59 Toadvine wrote:
I honestly don't see how anyone can claim livezerg played better in that game. Naniwa managed every single engagement better, capitalized on a ton of positional mistakes of Livezerg, and then just lost anyway cause it's basically impossible to attack a 5 base Zerg on Metropolis. I'm actually curious what the PvZ record for this map is.


It's favoring protoss by a bit.

You can check tlpd but it's http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/maps/528_Crux_Metropolis in the korean server.
and http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/maps/528_Crux_Metropolis in the european server.



Win/Loss rates dont mean anything about the state of the metagame/balance. Especially if your about to post some bullshit TvZ stats that are only 115 games. Take that shit out of the LR thread.


Lets get off the balance talk guys.

His "analysis" that didn't take into account economy ,upgrades and unit composition is better than some objective stats?


I didn't do any analysis at all, just pointed out that LiveZerg won even though his engagement and army management was quite poor throughout the game. I'm actually blown away by those Metropolis stats, cause every single PvZ I see on that map ends the exact same way this one did.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 18:15:43
June 17 2012 18:14 GMT
#3520
BratOk takes down Snute =)


On June 18 2012 03:14 Toadvine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 03:09 c78331 wrote:
On June 18 2012 03:05 ohampatu wrote:
On June 18 2012 03:04 c78331 wrote:
On June 18 2012 02:59 Toadvine wrote:
I honestly don't see how anyone can claim livezerg played better in that game. Naniwa managed every single engagement better, capitalized on a ton of positional mistakes of Livezerg, and then just lost anyway cause it's basically impossible to attack a 5 base Zerg on Metropolis. I'm actually curious what the PvZ record for this map is.


It's favoring protoss by a bit.

You can check tlpd but it's http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/maps/528_Crux_Metropolis in the korean server.
and http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/maps/528_Crux_Metropolis in the european server.



Win/Loss rates dont mean anything about the state of the metagame/balance. Especially if your about to post some bullshit TvZ stats that are only 115 games. Take that shit out of the LR thread.


Lets get off the balance talk guys.

His "analysis" that didn't take into account economy ,upgrades and unit composition is better than some objective stats?


I didn't do any analysis at all, just pointed out that LiveZerg won even though his engagement and army management was quite poor throughout the game. I'm actually blown away by those Metropolis stats, cause every single PvZ I see on that map ends the exact same way this one did.


2 base warp prism immortal all in got popular on that map

and so did warp prism FF ramp into killing everything in Z's main.

Toss has a lot of v good timings given map architecture, but struggles in late game.
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