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SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
June 17 2012 18:08 GMT
#3481
If LiveZerg wins... Group D will get very interesting.
MMA: The true King of Wings
mycro
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1579 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 18:08:37
June 17 2012 18:08 GMT
#3482
I'm so confused... the first stream said 1-1 in LiveZerg vs NaniWa and I thought it was the final game.. now its 1-0... um
IRL_Sinister
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Ireland621 Posts
June 17 2012 18:08 GMT
#3483
On June 18 2012 03:06 mycro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 03:05 Chenz wrote:
On June 18 2012 03:05 fanvadmeck wrote:
Eh why are they showing naniwa - livezerg again?

Because in a Bo3 you have to play at least 2 games?


livezerg already won 2-1 >_>!


rofl
SafeWord
Profile Joined February 2010
United States522 Posts
June 17 2012 18:08 GMT
#3484
Are the streams working for anyone???
Who needs players when you have God?
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
June 17 2012 18:08 GMT
#3485
On June 18 2012 03:07 IMoperator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 03:01 Shiori wrote:
On June 18 2012 03:00 ohampatu wrote:
On June 18 2012 02:59 Tpox wrote:
On June 18 2012 02:51 ohampatu wrote:
On June 18 2012 02:50 AxionSteel wrote:
On June 18 2012 02:49 ohampatu wrote:
On June 18 2012 02:48 graNite wrote:
P-T-Z
13-4-15

Yeah seems even



Standard when you dont invite: Kas, Goody, Cloud..........Do you get my point? Its been discussed. Not many high EU terrans were invited. and the ones that are here are not doing as well as they should.


terran being weak isn't the problem this tourney


lmfao, you actually think Goody and cloud would fare better than PuMa? haha



No. I mean that if more than 4 good terrans were invited, they would be in the list.

The terrans that made it are the only good terrans.

Also...Goody vs MMA would like a word



I seriuosly have no idea how many times during these two days it have been said but DH is an OPEN tournament, there is no invites what so ever!!



so flip out for no reason?

ok then, no good terrans qualified....If more terrans had qualified/entered into the qualifiers, they would be there.

Its a race representation problem. Not a balance issue. My point still stands.

Wtf? Who are the amazing Zergs at this event? Cytoplasm?

No, it's obviously Protosser, Ziktomini, Naugrim and Mini.


Only one i knew about was naugrim, and that's because he has rastas :D
Terran & Potato Salad.
mycro
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1579 Posts
June 17 2012 18:09 GMT
#3486
On June 18 2012 03:08 IRL_Sinister wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 03:06 mycro wrote:
On June 18 2012 03:05 Chenz wrote:
On June 18 2012 03:05 fanvadmeck wrote:
Eh why are they showing naniwa - livezerg again?

Because in a Bo3 you have to play at least 2 games?


livezerg already won 2-1 >_>!


rofl


The first stream had 1-1 in the scores.. even liquipedia said LiveZerg had won 2-1.. now it changed back
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
June 17 2012 18:09 GMT
#3487
On June 18 2012 03:08 SafeWord wrote:
Are the streams working for anyone???


All streams running on 720+ without as much as a shudder.
c78331
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece64 Posts
June 17 2012 18:09 GMT
#3488
On June 18 2012 03:05 ohampatu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 03:04 c78331 wrote:
On June 18 2012 02:59 Toadvine wrote:
I honestly don't see how anyone can claim livezerg played better in that game. Naniwa managed every single engagement better, capitalized on a ton of positional mistakes of Livezerg, and then just lost anyway cause it's basically impossible to attack a 5 base Zerg on Metropolis. I'm actually curious what the PvZ record for this map is.


It's favoring protoss by a bit.

You can check tlpd but it's http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/maps/528_Crux_Metropolis in the korean server.
and http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/maps/528_Crux_Metropolis in the european server.



Win/Loss rates dont mean anything about the state of the metagame/balance. Especially if your about to post some bullshit TvZ stats that are only 115 games. Take that shit out of the LR thread.


Lets get off the balance talk guys.

His "analysis" that didn't take into account economy ,upgrades and unit composition is better than some objective stats?
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
June 17 2012 18:09 GMT
#3489
On June 18 2012 03:01 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 03:00 ohampatu wrote:
On June 18 2012 02:59 Tpox wrote:
On June 18 2012 02:51 ohampatu wrote:
On June 18 2012 02:50 AxionSteel wrote:
On June 18 2012 02:49 ohampatu wrote:
On June 18 2012 02:48 graNite wrote:
P-T-Z
13-4-15

Yeah seems even



Standard when you dont invite: Kas, Goody, Cloud..........Do you get my point? Its been discussed. Not many high EU terrans were invited. and the ones that are here are not doing as well as they should.


terran being weak isn't the problem this tourney


lmfao, you actually think Goody and cloud would fare better than PuMa? haha



No. I mean that if more than 4 good terrans were invited, they would be in the list.

The terrans that made it are the only good terrans.

Also...Goody vs MMA would like a word



I seriuosly have no idea how many times during these two days it have been said but DH is an OPEN tournament, there is no invites what so ever!!



so flip out for no reason?

ok then, no good terrans qualified....If more terrans had qualified/entered into the qualifiers, they would be there.

Its a race representation problem. Not a balance issue. My point still stands.

Wtf? Who are the amazing Zergs at this event? Cytoplasm?


I would mention Stephano here, but a nameless party would just flip out and start babbling about him once having an alcoholic drink and being wanted by the FBI as a result.
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
June 17 2012 18:10 GMT
#3490
On June 18 2012 03:07 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 03:05 Swords wrote:
On June 18 2012 03:01 graNite wrote:
On June 18 2012 02:49 ohampatu wrote:
On June 18 2012 02:48 graNite wrote:
P-T-Z
13-4-15

Yeah seems even



Standard when you dont invite: Kas, Goody, Cloud..........Do you get my point? Its been discussed. Not many high EU terrans were invited. and the ones that are here are not doing as well as they should.


terran being weak isn't the problem this tourney


so? it is still not close to even. khaldor and i didnt say anything about their skill. dou you get my point?


On top of that, this isn't the only place where Terrans are getting roflstomped. Look at the GTSL stats, look at DRG vs. MKP at MLG. Look at the interview with MVP. The latest patch has turned that matchup to shit.

I don't even play Terran, but as a fan of the game it's stupid to watch.

Meanwhile, in a standard (emphasis here) PvT the Protoss is expected to just hold on for dear life in the early game, and the Terran is supposed to die if they let Protoss get late game. This is because Blizzard decided that it's more fun to have each race be OP depending on what time in the game it is.


Sculp and Jjakji would like a word. (and ST is the worst team in the world if Terran really is that UP right now)


That's fair. NSHS knows what's up.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
June 17 2012 18:10 GMT
#3491
Naniwa's 2 base blink all in was denied. He's way behind.
pellejohnson
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1931 Posts
June 17 2012 18:10 GMT
#3492
naniwa what the heck are you doing?
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
June 17 2012 18:10 GMT
#3493
bye bye naniwa
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
June 17 2012 18:11 GMT
#3494
This is looking so bad for Naniwa.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15737 Posts
June 17 2012 18:11 GMT
#3495
I will sacrifice 6 calves if Naniwa loses
Ph4ZeD
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom753 Posts
June 17 2012 18:11 GMT
#3496
Holy shit, that ling flank was like a samurai blade to Naniwa.
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
June 17 2012 18:11 GMT
#3497
On June 18 2012 03:09 revel8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 03:01 Shiori wrote:
On June 18 2012 03:00 ohampatu wrote:
On June 18 2012 02:59 Tpox wrote:
On June 18 2012 02:51 ohampatu wrote:
On June 18 2012 02:50 AxionSteel wrote:
On June 18 2012 02:49 ohampatu wrote:
On June 18 2012 02:48 graNite wrote:
P-T-Z
13-4-15

Yeah seems even



Standard when you dont invite: Kas, Goody, Cloud..........Do you get my point? Its been discussed. Not many high EU terrans were invited. and the ones that are here are not doing as well as they should.


terran being weak isn't the problem this tourney


lmfao, you actually think Goody and cloud would fare better than PuMa? haha



No. I mean that if more than 4 good terrans were invited, they would be in the list.

The terrans that made it are the only good terrans.

Also...Goody vs MMA would like a word



I seriuosly have no idea how many times during these two days it have been said but DH is an OPEN tournament, there is no invites what so ever!!



so flip out for no reason?

ok then, no good terrans qualified....If more terrans had qualified/entered into the qualifiers, they would be there.

Its a race representation problem. Not a balance issue. My point still stands.

Wtf? Who are the amazing Zergs at this event? Cytoplasm?


I would mention Stephano here, but a nameless party would just flip out and start babbling about him once having an alcoholic drink and being wanted by the FBI as a result.

He also didn't call them women
Sp00ly
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1546 Posts
June 17 2012 18:11 GMT
#3498
Naniwa what the shit are you doing?
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
June 17 2012 18:11 GMT
#3499
I don't see why everyone complains so much about balance whining in LR threads. The only reason I ever come to these threads is to balance whine.
MMA: The true King of Wings
ohampatu
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1448 Posts
June 17 2012 18:11 GMT
#3500
On June 18 2012 03:09 c78331 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 03:05 ohampatu wrote:
On June 18 2012 03:04 c78331 wrote:
On June 18 2012 02:59 Toadvine wrote:
I honestly don't see how anyone can claim livezerg played better in that game. Naniwa managed every single engagement better, capitalized on a ton of positional mistakes of Livezerg, and then just lost anyway cause it's basically impossible to attack a 5 base Zerg on Metropolis. I'm actually curious what the PvZ record for this map is.


It's favoring protoss by a bit.

You can check tlpd but it's http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/maps/528_Crux_Metropolis in the korean server.
and http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-international/maps/528_Crux_Metropolis in the european server.



Win/Loss rates dont mean anything about the state of the metagame/balance. Especially if your about to post some bullshit TvZ stats that are only 115 games. Take that shit out of the LR thread.


Lets get off the balance talk guys.

His "analysis" that didn't take into account economy ,upgrades and unit composition is better than some objective stats?


No where have I really disagreed with anybody. I simply stated that DH's issue with 'not alot of terrans' wasn't a balance issue, but a race distribution issue (from like, before the tourney started).
I have been ignoring all your tvz complaints. If it makes you feel better, i too believe zvt is broken. Ok, so i agree. Can we drop balance discussion now and get back to DH?
I am become death, for I am the destroyer of worlds.....You will be missed KT Violet!!!
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