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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On May 29 2012 21:03 ZeroSC2 wrote: Still technically a foreign team, the clan is from Australia. Also they have Foreigners, tho we prolly wont see much of them in the GSTL. Let me keep calling ex-fOu foreign then! woooo. | ||
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gengka
Malaysia461 Posts
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munchmunch
Canada789 Posts
On May 29 2012 20:59 Harrad wrote: Haypro's pretty good, I think he will rise to the occasion a few times. Jinro can definitely fit into the team as a sniper (and they say that someday the Gorilla will rise again, to feast on the bamboo of the... ok, this isn't working Well TLO almost qualified, lost 1-2 in the finals, so please inform yourself before making such harsh judgments. Jinro and Haypro are IMO good players, but not great, and just good is simply not enough against the brutal Korean competition.  ) | ||
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Embir
Poland567 Posts
On May 29 2012 20:59 Harrad wrote: Well TLO almost qualified, lost 1-2 in the finals, so please inform yourself before making such harsh judgments. Jinro and Haypro are IMO good players, but not great, and just good is simply not enough against the brutal Korean competition. SO what that TLO almost qualified? Remember Cyrix? (the awful player that Ret played against in GSL long time ago), he actually qualified for Code A, but fact remains still that he was awful player nad vanished quickly. I dont hate TLO or anything - I am sorry to say that because guy was actually fun to watch during beta, but gameplay level is still increasing and in this new enviroment TLO skills are not up to par. The same holds true for Jinro and HayprO. Liquid can choose one of two paths: became competitive SC2 team, or remain big family of young guys that like to play SC2. If they want to choose the first path they need to change their rooster quickly. | ||
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Rinnegan5
Netherlands319 Posts
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6BiT
513 Posts
On May 29 2012 19:34 SealOverseer wrote: Kind of embarrassing not to 5-0 a team like ZeNEX. I gotta say this post got a laugh out of me, because with TaeJa missing ZeNEX has the stronger team (in Korea) | ||
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
On May 29 2012 21:09 Embir wrote: SO what that TLO almost qualified? Remember Cyrix? (the awful player that Ret played against in GSL long time ago), he actually qualified for Code A, but fact remains still that he was awful player nad vanished quickly. I dont hate TLO or anything - I am sorry to say that because guy was actually fun to watch during beta, but gameplay level is still increasing and in this new enviroment TLO skills are not up to par. The same holds true for Jinro and HayprO. Liquid can choose one of two paths: became competitive SC2 team, or remain big family of young guys that like to play SC2. If they want to choose the first path they need to change their rooster quickly. no, but TLO played really well. if someone qualfiies for code A by proxy 2 gating every game and winning vs someone qualifying for code a through long intense macro games who do you think is more impressive? | ||
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Irrational_Animal
Germany1059 Posts
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Embir
Poland567 Posts
On May 29 2012 21:10 GreyKnight wrote: no, but TLO played really well. if someone qualfiies for code A by proxy 2 gating every game and winning vs someone qualifying for code a through long intense macro games who do you think is more impressive? He didnt play well enough, because he didn't qualified. Period. | ||
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s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
On May 29 2012 21:02 opterown wrote: who will contribute likely jack all to be completely honest...maybe a single win here and there, but will be sparse Fnatic only has two standouts as well in Oz and Alive though. The other Koreans aren't much ( if at all ) better than ToD or Nightend. The difference though is overall Fnatic has more depth in their lineup than TL. | ||
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ZeroSC2
Korea (South)668 Posts
On May 29 2012 21:06 opterown wrote: Let me keep calling ex-fOu foreign then! woooo. cant remember them having any foreigners. | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
the clan's from australia too yo. and they have fxoboss, a greek, and some others too | ||
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On May 29 2012 20:44 FakeDeath wrote: It was pretty funny to see the voting results was favouring TL 77.3% and Zenex 22.7%.eventhough zenex was the clear favourite. So much TL fandom this time around. Really a favourite ? Without Taeja they were like 50/50 or Zenex just a slight favourite, with Taeja TL would be a slight favourite. Or did you forget how many players of TL were in Ro8 of GSL or in code S recently and how many Zenex had/has there ? TL has more imbalanced team with some heavyweights and some much weaker players, whereas Zenex has more balanced one. But to say Zenex was clear favourite is as misguided as saying TL is clear favourite. | ||
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polyphonyEX
United States2539 Posts
On May 29 2012 21:06 gengka wrote: they need taeja back, nuff said Extreme would snipe him easily | ||
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ZeroSC2
Korea (South)668 Posts
On May 29 2012 21:12 s3rp wrote: Fnatic only has two standouts as well in Oz and Alive though. The other Koreans aren't much ( if at all ) better than ToD or Nightend. uhm, ByuL is one of the up and coming Zergs, probably Top 5 ZvT in Korea, excellent Sniper and very strong Kr GM position. Moon on LAN cant be underestimated either, he did beat Bomber, Naniwa, MC, Mvp etc... I believe Fnatic has WAY better chances than Liquid in the GSTL. Well we will have to wait and see for their match vs TSL. | ||
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Irrational_Animal
Germany1059 Posts
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On May 29 2012 21:12 Embir wrote: He didnt play well enough, because he didn't qualified. Period. True, the same is true for Puma. Another unskilled player that will never qualify for code A. Or maybe not qualifying for code A has a lot to do with luck as well as skill. | ||
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
On May 29 2012 21:12 Embir wrote: He didnt play well enough, because he didn't qualified. Period. that's not fair at all. there's mostly luck and randomness in the qualifiers. nobody breezes through stuff at their first try no matter how easy it looks for them. | ||
Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On May 29 2012 21:14 mcc wrote: Really a favourite ? Without Taeja they were like 50/50 or Zenex just a slight favourite, with Taeja TL would be a slight favourite. Or did you forget how many players of TL were in Ro8 of GSL or in code S recently and how many Zenex had/has there ? TL has more imbalanced team with some heavyweights and some much weaker players, whereas Zenex has more balanced one. But to say Zenex was clear favourite is as misguided as saying TL is clear favourite. Without Taeja, I would say ZeNex are big favorites. Zenio hasn't been doing the best lately and is hovering around Code A~ish level. Jinro had to take on coaching duties and wasn't at his best. Haypro didn't even try to qualify for Code A, so I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't in the best shape. That leaves you with TLO and Hero. Both are great players, but you can't expect them to carry. ZeNex just has a ridiculously deep line-up. The team could be considered the best at actually developing talent. Life, Harrier, and Xtreme were all coming off qualifying for Code A and Line just got into Code S. That isn't even mentioning Avenge and a few others who were inches away from qualifying for Code A this season. ZeNex last season was a bridge between the Old ZeNex of Coca, Byun, Puzzle and the New ZeNex with their new stars. If they can keep Life, Harrier, Xtreme, etc., then they will become one of the best teams in Korea. They're all pretty inexperienced, but if they can get some confidence, don't be shocked if they make a run. Their 2nd place during the KSL wasn't a fluke. | ||
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munchmunch
Canada789 Posts
On May 29 2012 21:05 Darkong wrote: Yeah, but at the same time, there's no point in trying to predict the future based on this one game, as a lot of people are trying to do. And if we are not allowed to weep and gnash our teeth when TL loses, then what's the point of being fans? Wow, some people need to get a grip. Getting all-killed is hardly the end of the world, it happens to pretty much every team at some point (remember when QXC all-killed IM? Didn't send them to oblivion did it?) Bear in mind also that this was the first time that they'd all played together as a team and that both TLP and Haypro have only just recently moved to Korea (so not had a great deal of Korea practise time) and they only had 5 players to chose from so they were really up against it from the outset. This season is a sharp learning experience, its the proceeding seasons that will be a truer measurement of the team. | ||
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