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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 29 2012 13:02 GMT
#2401
On May 29 2012 21:57 shadymmj wrote:
its not like TL hasn't been irrelevant in competitive starcraft for ages...


I disagree. TL needs to field its top lineup to even have a chance in the GSTL. This means Taeja, Sheth, and Ret. NSH is a much stronger team than Zenex, and today showed that Liquid frankly does not have the depth of roster. Even with the full roster, they wouldn't be favored, but they can at least improve their chances.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8323 Posts
May 29 2012 13:05 GMT
#2402
Well, not the greatest result to wake up to...

I kind of disagree with sending out Zenio first when you only have two koreans available as that is very likely going to result in putting HUGE pressure on Hero. Still, guess it did get momentum on Liquid's side however briefly.

Really hope liquid can turn it around for the next one, but it gets more difficult from here on out.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
May 29 2012 13:09 GMT
#2403
On May 29 2012 22:05 TheDougler wrote:
Well, not the greatest result to wake up to...

I kind of disagree with sending out Zenio first when you only have two koreans available as that is very likely going to result in putting HUGE pressure on Hero. Still, guess it did get momentum on Liquid's side however briefly.

Really hope liquid can turn it around for the next one, but it gets more difficult from here on out.

I think sending Hero against Life right away was not the best idea. I think trying to snipe him with Zergs might have been better and then hope for Hero 3-kill
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46476 Posts
May 29 2012 13:10 GMT
#2404
Can someone please tell me if the games were close?

I didn't get to watch them, and the 5-1 seems devastatingly one-sided... and although Taeja was apparently unavailable, losing that badly to *only* ZeNEX_Life is not exactly a good sign for TL.

Of course, stranger things have happened.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8323 Posts
May 29 2012 13:11 GMT
#2405
On May 29 2012 22:09 mcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 22:05 TheDougler wrote:
Well, not the greatest result to wake up to...

I kind of disagree with sending out Zenio first when you only have two koreans available as that is very likely going to result in putting HUGE pressure on Hero. Still, guess it did get momentum on Liquid's side however briefly.

Really hope liquid can turn it around for the next one, but it gets more difficult from here on out.

I think sending Hero against Life right away was not the best idea. I think trying to snipe him with Zergs might have been better and then hope for Hero 3-kill


Absolutely.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Digitalis
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1043 Posts
May 29 2012 13:12 GMT
#2406
On May 29 2012 22:10 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Can someone please tell me if the games were close?

I didn't get to watch them, and the 5-1 seems devastatingly one-sided... and although Taeja was apparently unavailable, losing that badly to *only* ZeNEX_Life is not exactly a good sign for TL.

Of course, stranger things have happened.


No sadly, Jinro got stomped, and Haypro and TLO just got outplayed....
Hero's game was at least a bit entertaining to watch, but he was behind when he decided not to pressure an early third.
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
May 29 2012 13:14 GMT
#2407
Man 5-1 =/.

That really stings!

Hopefully things will go better next time with Taeja being there, but all the other teams are likely to be a harder challenge then Zenex.

Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 13:18:34
May 29 2012 13:16 GMT
#2408
On May 29 2012 22:09 mcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 22:05 TheDougler wrote:
Well, not the greatest result to wake up to...

I kind of disagree with sending out Zenio first when you only have two koreans available as that is very likely going to result in putting HUGE pressure on Hero. Still, guess it did get momentum on Liquid's side however briefly.

Really hope liquid can turn it around for the next one, but it gets more difficult from here on out.

I think sending Hero against Life right away was not the best idea. I think trying to snipe him with Zergs might have been better and then hope for Hero 3-kill


Yeah i agreed that they should not have send Hero that early but i don't think they had a choice since they don't have
a deep roster sadly.Only have 3 zergs,1,toss,1 terran

Sending zergs against Life is just a bad choice IMHO.
Life has a 80% winrate ZvZ in korea and a top zerg in general and sending zergs was just suicide but it didn't look like they had a choice.

They need their full lineup to have a decent chance to compete in the GSTL.
Also, they need an actual good COACH to actually formulate a plan to beat other team.(Not Jinro please, he is a player honestly speaking him being a coach seems odd does he have any coaching experience?)

They could get ogsTheWind or somebody with good coaching experience.
At this rate i dun see TL having any chance in the GSTL.
Play your best
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46476 Posts
May 29 2012 13:17 GMT
#2409
On May 29 2012 22:12 Digitalis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 22:10 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Can someone please tell me if the games were close?

I didn't get to watch them, and the 5-1 seems devastatingly one-sided... and although Taeja was apparently unavailable, losing that badly to *only* ZeNEX_Life is not exactly a good sign for TL.

Of course, stranger things have happened.


No sadly, Jinro got stomped, and Haypro and TLO just got outplayed....
Hero's game was at least a bit entertaining to watch, but he was behind when he decided not to pressure an early third.


Thanks. That's really too bad
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
May 29 2012 13:17 GMT
#2410
On May 29 2012 20:30 arioch wrote:
Pretty sad about the result... but Life is such a greedy player my god. Any early timing would straight up kill him in almost all of the games he played I feel.

He plays pretty diverse styles tho, really felt like life just hardcountered liquids style of play
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13090 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 13:21:24
May 29 2012 13:19 GMT
#2411
How do I watch when both streams are not working for me :S

nvm its already over lol..
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
May 29 2012 13:23 GMT
#2412
Life is The Thing!
Stork[gm]
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
May 29 2012 13:24 GMT
#2413
zenexxxx

great to see em alive and kickin
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 13:30:23
May 29 2012 13:26 GMT
#2414
wrong thread sry t-t
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
May 29 2012 13:27 GMT
#2415
We can expect to see more of these results they just don't have the quality roster other teams have.
Grats to ZeneX though, strong start.
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 13:32:44
May 29 2012 13:31 GMT
#2416
On May 29 2012 22:09 mcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 22:05 TheDougler wrote:
Well, not the greatest result to wake up to...

I kind of disagree with sending out Zenio first when you only have two koreans available as that is very likely going to result in putting HUGE pressure on Hero. Still, guess it did get momentum on Liquid's side however briefly.

Really hope liquid can turn it around for the next one, but it gets more difficult from here on out.

I think sending Hero against Life right away was not the best idea. I think trying to snipe him with Zergs might have been better and then hope for Hero 3-kill


Life's ZvZ is ridiculous. TLO and Haypro would have lost anyway. HerO was pretty much Liquid's only hope at sniping Life.
Catatonic
Profile Joined August 2011
United States699 Posts
May 29 2012 13:35 GMT
#2417
I just don't feel like TL can do good in this tournament the only guy they have who can consistently take on Koreans is HerO. Zenio is inconsistent, Seth as well, TLO just can't do it in my opinion, Haypro whats his NASL record again? (0-6), and Jinro just isn't doing so well in anything at the moment.
T: DeMuslim SeleCT. P: Naniwa Genius. Z: IdrA Destiny Team: EG
sickoota
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada918 Posts
May 29 2012 13:39 GMT
#2418
It must be noted that life is a beast and Zenex is underrated.
I could spend a while with that smile
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
May 29 2012 13:41 GMT
#2419
On May 29 2012 22:35 Catatonic wrote:
I just don't feel like TL can do good in this tournament the only guy they have who can consistently take on Koreans is HerO. Zenio is inconsistent, Seth as well, TLO just can't do it in my opinion, Haypro whats his NASL record again? (0-6), and Jinro just isn't doing so well in anything at the moment.


Liquid will have to beat NSHS and then the winner of ZeNEX vs Slayers-EG if they want to move on to the playoffs. I wouldn't get your hopes up, to be honest.
PolishxThunder
Profile Joined May 2011
United States153 Posts
May 29 2012 13:42 GMT
#2420
Stayed up to watch, very disappointing. I really don't think TL has what it takes to compete in GSTL
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