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On May 29 2012 21:57 shadymmj wrote:
its not like TL hasn't been irrelevant in competitive starcraft for ages...
I disagree. TL needs to field its top lineup to even have a chance in the GSTL. This means Taeja, Sheth, and Ret. NSH is a much stronger team than Zenex, and today showed that Liquid frankly does not have the depth of roster. Even with the full roster, they wouldn't be favored, but they can at least improve their chances.
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Well, not the greatest result to wake up to...
I kind of disagree with sending out Zenio first when you only have two koreans available as that is very likely going to result in putting HUGE pressure on Hero. Still, guess it did get momentum on Liquid's side however briefly.
Really hope liquid can turn it around for the next one, but it gets more difficult from here on out.
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On May 29 2012 22:05 TheDougler wrote:
Well, not the greatest result to wake up to...
I kind of disagree with sending out Zenio first when you only have two koreans available as that is very likely going to result in putting HUGE pressure on Hero. Still, guess it did get momentum on Liquid's side however briefly.
Really hope liquid can turn it around for the next one, but it gets more difficult from here on out.
I think sending Hero against Life right away was not the best idea. I think trying to snipe him with Zergs might have been better and then hope for Hero 3-kill
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Can someone please tell me if the games were close?
I didn't get to watch them, and the 5-1 seems devastatingly one-sided... and although Taeja was apparently unavailable, losing that badly to *only* ZeNEX_Life is not exactly a good sign for TL.
Of course, stranger things have happened.
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On May 29 2012 22:09 mcc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 22:05 TheDougler wrote:
Well, not the greatest result to wake up to...
I kind of disagree with sending out Zenio first when you only have two koreans available as that is very likely going to result in putting HUGE pressure on Hero. Still, guess it did get momentum on Liquid's side however briefly.
Really hope liquid can turn it around for the next one, but it gets more difficult from here on out. I think sending Hero against Life right away was not the best idea. I think trying to snipe him with Zergs might have been better and then hope for Hero 3-kill
Absolutely.
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On May 29 2012 22:10 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Can someone please tell me if the games were close?
I didn't get to watch them, and the 5-1 seems devastatingly one-sided... and although Taeja was apparently unavailable, losing that badly to *only* ZeNEX_Life is not exactly a good sign for TL.
Of course, stranger things have happened.
No sadly, Jinro got stomped, and Haypro and TLO just got outplayed....
Hero's game was at least a bit entertaining to watch, but he was behind when he decided not to pressure an early third.
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Man 5-1 =/.
That really stings!
Hopefully things will go better next time with Taeja being there, but all the other teams are likely to be a harder challenge then Zenex.
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On May 29 2012 22:09 mcc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 22:05 TheDougler wrote:
Well, not the greatest result to wake up to...
I kind of disagree with sending out Zenio first when you only have two koreans available as that is very likely going to result in putting HUGE pressure on Hero. Still, guess it did get momentum on Liquid's side however briefly.
Really hope liquid can turn it around for the next one, but it gets more difficult from here on out. I think sending Hero against Life right away was not the best idea. I think trying to snipe him with Zergs might have been better and then hope for Hero 3-kill
Yeah i agreed that they should not have send Hero that early but i don't think they had a choice since they don't have
a deep roster sadly.Only have 3 zergs,1,toss,1 terran
Sending zergs against Life is just a bad choice IMHO.
Life has a 80% winrate ZvZ in korea and a top zerg in general and sending zergs was just suicide but it didn't look like they had a choice.
They need their full lineup to have a decent chance to compete in the GSTL.
Also, they need an actual good COACH to actually formulate a plan to beat other team.(Not Jinro please, he is a player honestly speaking him being a coach seems odd does he have any coaching experience?)
They could get ogsTheWind or somebody with good coaching experience.
At this rate i dun see TL having any chance in the GSTL.
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On May 29 2012 22:12 Digitalis wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 22:10 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Can someone please tell me if the games were close?
I didn't get to watch them, and the 5-1 seems devastatingly one-sided... and although Taeja was apparently unavailable, losing that badly to *only* ZeNEX_Life is not exactly a good sign for TL.
Of course, stranger things have happened. No sadly, Jinro got stomped, and Haypro and TLO just got outplayed.... Hero's game was at least a bit entertaining to watch, but he was behind when he decided not to pressure an early third.
Thanks. That's really too bad 
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On May 29 2012 20:30 arioch wrote:
Pretty sad about the result... but Life is such a greedy player my god. Any early timing would straight up kill him in almost all of the games he played I feel.
He plays pretty diverse styles tho, really felt like life just hardcountered liquids style of play
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How do I watch when both streams are not working for me :S
nvm its already over lol..
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zenexxxx
great to see em alive and kickin
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We can expect to see more of these results they just don't have the quality roster other teams have.
Grats to ZeneX though, strong start.
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On May 29 2012 22:09 mcc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 22:05 TheDougler wrote:
Well, not the greatest result to wake up to...
I kind of disagree with sending out Zenio first when you only have two koreans available as that is very likely going to result in putting HUGE pressure on Hero. Still, guess it did get momentum on Liquid's side however briefly.
Really hope liquid can turn it around for the next one, but it gets more difficult from here on out. I think sending Hero against Life right away was not the best idea. I think trying to snipe him with Zergs might have been better and then hope for Hero 3-kill
Life's ZvZ is ridiculous. TLO and Haypro would have lost anyway. HerO was pretty much Liquid's only hope at sniping Life.
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I just don't feel like TL can do good in this tournament the only guy they have who can consistently take on Koreans is HerO. Zenio is inconsistent, Seth as well, TLO just can't do it in my opinion, Haypro whats his NASL record again? (0-6), and Jinro just isn't doing so well in anything at the moment.
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It must be noted that life is a beast and Zenex is underrated.
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On May 29 2012 22:35 Catatonic wrote:
I just don't feel like TL can do good in this tournament the only guy they have who can consistently take on Koreans is HerO. Zenio is inconsistent, Seth as well, TLO just can't do it in my opinion, Haypro whats his NASL record again? (0-6), and Jinro just isn't doing so well in anything at the moment.
Liquid will have to beat NSHS and then the winner of ZeNEX vs Slayers-EG if they want to move on to the playoffs. I wouldn't get your hopes up, to be honest.
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Stayed up to watch, very disappointing. I really don't think TL has what it takes to compete in GSTL
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EPT
