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brokenLoL
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom419 Posts
May 29 2012 13:45 GMT
#2421
Man I wish Ret and Sheth were there. Hell the whole TL should be there.
Save me from myself
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
May 29 2012 13:45 GMT
#2422
Liquid vs NSHS doesn't seem to be good...... :3
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
May 29 2012 13:47 GMT
#2423
EG.Life incoming?
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 13:50:04
May 29 2012 13:48 GMT
#2424
On May 29 2012 22:35 Catatonic wrote:
I just don't feel like TL can do good in this tournament the only guy they have who can consistently take on Koreans is HerO. Zenio is inconsistent, Seth as well, TLO just can't do it in my opinion, Haypro whats his NASL record again? (0-6), and Jinro just isn't doing so well in anything at the moment.


Taeja should be able to take games

edit: made my post happier
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
May 29 2012 13:52 GMT
#2425
On May 29 2012 22:35 Catatonic wrote:
I just don't feel like TL can do good in this tournament the only guy they have who can consistently take on Koreans is HerO. Zenio is inconsistent, Seth as well, TLO just can't do it in my opinion, Haypro whats his NASL record again? (0-6), and Jinro just isn't doing so well in anything at the moment.

You forgot Taeja.
MangoMountain
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2044 Posts
May 29 2012 13:52 GMT
#2426
On May 29 2012 22:09 mcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 22:05 TheDougler wrote:
Well, not the greatest result to wake up to...

I kind of disagree with sending out Zenio first when you only have two koreans available as that is very likely going to result in putting HUGE pressure on Hero. Still, guess it did get momentum on Liquid's side however briefly.

Really hope liquid can turn it around for the next one, but it gets more difficult from here on out.

I think sending Hero against Life right away was not the best idea. I think trying to snipe him with Zergs might have been better and then hope for Hero 3-kill

Life has an 80% win rate in zvz...
incontrolshaircut
Profile Joined May 2012
United States13 Posts
May 29 2012 13:59 GMT
#2427
its nice to see zenex in full force tho'...
Catatonic
Profile Joined August 2011
United States699 Posts
May 29 2012 14:01 GMT
#2428
On May 29 2012 22:48 zezamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 22:35 Catatonic wrote:
I just don't feel like TL can do good in this tournament the only guy they have who can consistently take on Koreans is HerO. Zenio is inconsistent, Seth as well, TLO just can't do it in my opinion, Haypro whats his NASL record again? (0-6), and Jinro just isn't doing so well in anything at the moment.


Taeja should be able to take games

edit: made my post happier

True though that's only 2 guys (I'll admit I forgot about Taeja too early in the mourning lol) so it's still a bleak outlook. I love liquid though in reality they just can't stack up in my opinion to the likes of STQ, SKIM, or SlayerSEG, or Prime. (Probably have half those abbreviations wrong but you all get the point lol.)
T: DeMuslim SeleCT. P: Naniwa Genius. Z: IdrA Destiny Team: EG
Ancient-Hunter
Profile Joined June 2011
Korea (South)142 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 14:02:54
May 29 2012 14:02 GMT
#2429
That was brutal
Let's fly!
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
May 29 2012 14:07 GMT
#2430
Liquid loses and suddenly the world is ending, they're bad, they need better players and all ><
They had good results this year, TLO was one map away from code A in a ZvZ, they didn't get suddenly bad because they lost to Zenex, who isn't the strongest team but is strong enough to be able to win more or less against everyone.
catplanetcatplanet
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3837 Posts
May 29 2012 14:14 GMT
#2431
I doubt Life will leave ZeNEX for a while. He's good friends with several of the members and doesn't seem to communicate with other teams on Twitter.
I think it's finally time to admit it might not be the year of Pet
Sphen5117
Profile Joined September 2011
United States413 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 14:18:45
May 29 2012 14:15 GMT
#2432
Though it may sound like a cop-out, not having Taeja can be a BIG deal. Sure Hero made it further in GSL this past season, but it was only his first time in, while Taeja has been rocking face in GSL for a looong time. He may not peak the way Hero does, but he's much more consistent. Surely TL will do better next time when they have their full roster.

Other than that, glad to see Zenex getting some achievements. Their players don't really go to any foreigner tournaments, so this is sort of their only stage to impress, and makes me glad Life got some good exposure.
Devise
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1131 Posts
May 29 2012 14:16 GMT
#2433
On May 29 2012 21:06 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 21:03 ZeroSC2 wrote:
On May 29 2012 20:41 Mattidute wrote:
On May 29 2012 20:37 ZeroSC2 wrote:
Time to start support fnatic for a change.

They are the only foreign team with a decent chance to go at least through first groupstage.


Fnatic has like 1 foreigner on the team, they are pretty much a korean team at this point.


Still technically a foreign team, the clan is from Australia.

Also they have Foreigners, tho we prolly wont see much of them in the GSTL.

Let me keep calling ex-fOu foreign then! woooo.


FXO KR foreign team.. right....
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
May 29 2012 14:22 GMT
#2434
On May 29 2012 22:52 MangoMountain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 22:09 mcc wrote:
On May 29 2012 22:05 TheDougler wrote:
Well, not the greatest result to wake up to...

I kind of disagree with sending out Zenio first when you only have two koreans available as that is very likely going to result in putting HUGE pressure on Hero. Still, guess it did get momentum on Liquid's side however briefly.

Really hope liquid can turn it around for the next one, but it gets more difficult from here on out.

I think sending Hero against Life right away was not the best idea. I think trying to snipe him with Zergs might have been better and then hope for Hero 3-kill

Life has an 80% win rate in zvz...

Well if they do not snipe him, Hero has to play anyway and Hero has better chance of killing the rest of Zenex with Jinro in reserve than the other guys combined. That means that "wasting" the zergs on Life hoping for luck would be statistically better bet. Of course in my opinion. I do not think anyone has the hard numbers to decisively say that.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 29 2012 14:26 GMT
#2435
awwww. Life too pro.

lahara
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany140 Posts
May 29 2012 14:27 GMT
#2436
omg what a rapefest. i dont think it will do liquid much good competing in an environment where allk the foreignerxs on the team will be outclassed to a certain extent
having an argument on the internt is like competing in the paralympics, even if u win ure still retarded
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 29 2012 14:32 GMT
#2437
damn Life.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
furerkip
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States439 Posts
May 29 2012 14:35 GMT
#2438
:\ Didn't think Hero would lose to Life...
HQuality
Profile Joined October 2009
2682 Posts
May 29 2012 14:38 GMT
#2439
well this is NOT funny
No carpal tunnel no skill
Sphen5117
Profile Joined September 2011
United States413 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 14:41:22
May 29 2012 14:38 GMT
#2440
On May 29 2012 23:27 lahara wrote:
omg what a rapefest. i dont think it will do liquid much good competing in an environment where allk the foreignerxs on the team will be outclassed to a certain extent



Your post seems to not take into account many variables.

1) This was their first match as a team in this setting EVER.
2) Life is a good player.
3) That's just sort of how it works in the foreigner vs. korean conflict, eh? That's why we even have the distinction, because the Koreans are generally better.
4) How would NOT competing here be good for them? They're all over there for training as well, should they also just refuse one of their chances to prove themselves and start making waves in one of the most competitive leagues in the world?
5) Liquid didn't have one of their strongest and (imo) their most consistent player.

I don't mean to say this just to be insulting, but you ignorantly look over all these points about the situation. It seems like your post was pretty knee-jerky. Sure losing like this is bad news bears, but good lord man, take it in context.

I'm not trying to make excuses for Liquid with some of those points, but I guess some people need it pointed out to them why such an outcome isn't the end of the world and they should stop "competing in an environment where allk the foreignerxs" will be defeated. Relax.
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