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On May 29 2012 20:42 s3rp wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 20:40 Inviteme wrote: LIQUID NEEDS MORE PRACTICE ... gogogogogogogogo ladder games gogogogo They don't need more practise they need more players. You don't win with a skeleton lineup like that unless that lineup consists of players that are far superior than anyone else.
yeah ur freaking right... reinforcement (SHETH AND RET) yeah lets bring more zergs... is the same s hit.
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It was pretty funny to see the voting results was favouring TL 77.3% and Zenex 22.7%.eventhough zenex was the clear favourite. So much TL fandom this time around.
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On May 29 2012 20:30 Kar98 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 20:26 McBrungus wrote: Is anyone else getting really annoyed by Wolf's constant negativity? I feel like with him the last few days of casting have been almost nothing but, "OH, WHAT A HORRIBLE MISTAKE" or "Oh man, I can't believe he did THAT" instead of anything constructive or interesting. It's good. Means he's doing his job of pointing out why Liquid is losing
But I feel like there is a difference between pointing out why they're losing and saying literally anything interesting about the games. And I'm not just talking about today, I feel like he has recently fallen back too much on calling everything a huge blunder or a giant mistake or simply saying that someone is playing badly instead of pointing out why the other guy is winning.
It just feels disrespectful to the players and isn't a style of casting that I find appealing.
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On May 29 2012 20:41 Derez wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 20:36 RPR_Tempest wrote:On May 29 2012 20:35 munchmunch wrote:On May 29 2012 20:32 dgwow wrote:On May 29 2012 20:29 CrappyHippo wrote: TL got all killed by the weakest korean team, that's embarrassing. How is that embarrassing? Life is a super good player, he has the potential to be top 3 zerg in the world.. Once HerO was taken out TL didn't stand much of a chance... No offence to the TL players. TL fanboys don't know much about other teams I guess. That's why it's embarrassing. In a team league, you should be able to use the strength of your team to snipe the best players on the opposing team. Life is unsnipeable. He has no weak match-up. Yes. Life, a player without any accomplishments is unbeatable for TL. I wonder what happens when they face some players with actual accomplishments. I hear NSHoSeo has a guy that won a GSL title at some point. A 5-1 loss to Zenex is embarrassing. If TL goes out of the tourney in two series, which seems very likely at this point, all it proves is that they didn't belong. If you get banned in the future, will that prove that your negativity didn't belong here ?
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if Liquid is smart.. they have to send Hero for the first matchup and leave Taeja for the ACE player..
just let hero smash noobs when he is MAD and let taeja finish it
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On May 29 2012 20:43 Harrad wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 20:42 opterown wrote:On May 29 2012 20:37 ZeroSC2 wrote: Time to start support fnatic for a change.
They are the only foreign team with a decent chance to go at least through first groupstage. fnatic is no more a foreign team than FXO korea is That prompts the question for how much longer TL can be considered a foreign team. Once they're 50%+ Koreans?
Indeed, their korean line up is going to make up the majority of their games after all (have to presume zenio/taeja/hero would all be sent out if available which only leaves 2 foreigners), it's not too different from fnatic in an actual competitive environment.
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On May 29 2012 20:41 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 20:37 jellyjello wrote: Life's scouting has been so much better than his counterparts. For example, in last game against TLO, Life's few zerglings were constantly moving in and out of TLO's main scouting him off, and when he saw TLO's zergs breaking the rock between 2nd and 3rd, he immediately threw down his 3rd hatch before TLO. Life's been able to play greedy because he was allowed to scout the other guy way too easily. Life's reads are always really good, like scouting only 4 marines off 1 rax FE for longer than there should be to confirm that there's likely double gas -> fact tech coming even when he can't see it directly.
He also had some luck on his side too. Against Hero, he was lucky that his first overseer flew right into Hero's base. He saw from the get-go that Hero's going to play a safe and greedy opening, and he immediately threw down two more hatcheries which ultimately enabled his fast mutas and very fast hive.
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On May 29 2012 20:44 FakeDeath wrote: It was pretty funny to see the voting results was favouring TL 77.3% and Zenex 22.7%.eventhough zenex was the clear favourite. So much TL fandom this time around.
That's Life. Liquid never had a chance imho.
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On May 29 2012 20:30 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 20:29 CrappyHippo wrote: TL got all killed by the weakest korean team, that's embarrassing. Not really. Life is an amazing player that should be code S after this upcoming season based on his results in other tournaments. this kid is really really good. no shame and getting all killed by him ZeNEX hase also been doing really well at the KSL.
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On May 29 2012 20:42 s3rp wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 20:40 Inviteme wrote: LIQUID NEEDS MORE PRACTICE ... gogogogogogogogo ladder games gogogogo They don't need more practise they need more players. You don't win with a skeleton lineup like that unless that lineup consists of players that are far superior than anyone else.
Exactly. And seriously, even if they were five top 8 Code S players, the predictability of their line up would still make them very vulnerable to snipes.
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On May 29 2012 20:46 jellyjello wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 20:41 Asha` wrote:On May 29 2012 20:37 jellyjello wrote: Life's scouting has been so much better than his counterparts. For example, in last game against TLO, Life's few zerglings were constantly moving in and out of TLO's main scouting him off, and when he saw TLO's zergs breaking the rock between 2nd and 3rd, he immediately threw down his 3rd hatch before TLO. Life's been able to play greedy because he was allowed to scout the other guy way too easily. Life's reads are always really good, like scouting only 4 marines off 1 rax FE for longer than there should be to confirm that there's likely double gas -> fact tech coming even when he can't see it directly. He also had some luck on his side too. Against Hero, he was lucky that his first overseer flew right into Hero's base. He saw from the get-go that Hero's going to play a safe and greedy opening, and he immediately threw down two more hatcheries which ultimately enabled his fast mutas and very fast hive.
Yah, luck always plays at least some part though, you just have to use it when it goes your way and deal with it when it doesn't. Unfortunately for Hero (and TL) things fell pretty well for Life in that game.
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On May 29 2012 20:46 polyphonyEX wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 20:44 FakeDeath wrote: It was pretty funny to see the voting results was favouring TL 77.3% and Zenex 22.7%.eventhough zenex was the clear favourite. So much TL fandom this time around. That's Life. Liquid never had a chance imho.
LOL 15 years old all killed liquid ... when u add the liquid's players age.. is +120years old
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Indeed.. ppl need to watch more teamleagues (KSL, etc..) before calling Zenex trash.. Life and xtreme are their big guns I feel, but all the others can snipe some of the opponents.. Good team all around..
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On May 29 2012 20:40 McVities wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 20:38 bailando wrote: i gotta be honest with you i am still not conviced that zenex is a TOP team.
imo they gonna loose hard to the rest. i dont see any rise. That is fine man, you're entitled to your opinion and you're not just bashing them senselessly. However I would say to take a look at their line up and recent results both in the KSL and individual player results. But I guess we can just wait and see how the GSTL plays out for them ;p
You know, at first I wanted to be angry at bailando, but I agree when he says they might not be TOP team in Korea. I don't think the teams take KSL very seriously, I looked at their wins: vs IM - IM doesn't play MVP/Nestea vs MVP - MVP doesn't play DRG/Genius vs Prime - no MKP
Those are their major wins, and of course playing said players doesn't mean they lose sets they win, but it could be different, esp in the vs IM and vs MVP cases. Sure their individual results are good but SO ARE EVERY OTHER TOP TEAM. Congratulate Line on getting Code S? MVP just won that shit. Line did ok in Iron Squid? MMA just won that shit. Their results don't stand up currently against any team really, minus maybe NSHS and TSL, but NSHS ofc has Jjaki and TSL has Polt, and Symbol/Revival who are showing more results, plus eventually Hyun will learn to play.
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Wow.. I really want to support liquid... but they need much better players
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Life all-kills TL and suddendly he is top3 zerg in the world if you would trust some of the TL fans. TL played bad, they have to play better. That's it.
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On May 29 2012 20:48 Inviteme wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2012 20:46 polyphonyEX wrote:On May 29 2012 20:44 FakeDeath wrote: It was pretty funny to see the voting results was favouring TL 77.3% and Zenex 22.7%.eventhough zenex was the clear favourite. So much TL fandom this time around. That's Life. Liquid never had a chance imho. LOL 15 years old all killed liquid ... when u add the liquid's players age.. is +120years old Wasn't very surprising though, Life is good
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On May 29 2012 20:33 DMKraft wrote: Being all killed is a bit unlucky, if they had managed to beat Life, they could of won.
HerO needed to put that pylon behind the third's mineral line damn T.T
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On May 29 2012 20:50 DJSub wrote: Wow.. I really want to support liquid... but they need much better players
they have recruit like 90 % players from oGs (since they disbanded) and just add into their roster HAHAH
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