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On March 20 2012 16:30 Ruscour wrote: mouz and Empire were neck and neck for best foreign team, and TL came along and snatched it recently. TL 3-1.
worth noting that mouz is still 100% foreigner while tl picked up 2 koreans... without the koreans mouz is still heads above everyone else
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MaNa < Sheth ThorZaIN > TLO MorroW > Zenio biGs < Ret
ThorZaIN > Ret for ace.
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Mousseports is the team of random capitolized letters
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On March 20 2012 21:04 msjakofsky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 16:30 Ruscour wrote: mouz and Empire were neck and neck for best foreign team, and TL came along and snatched it recently. TL 3-1. worth noting that mouz is still 100% foreigner while tl picked up 2 koreans... without the koreans mouz is still heads above everyone else
Also worth noting is that if you make arbitrary changes to the roster, you can make any team look better than any other team.
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On March 20 2012 22:08 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 21:04 msjakofsky wrote:On March 20 2012 16:30 Ruscour wrote: mouz and Empire were neck and neck for best foreign team, and TL came along and snatched it recently. TL 3-1. worth noting that mouz is still 100% foreigner while tl picked up 2 koreans... without the koreans mouz is still heads above everyone else Also worth noting is that if you make arbitrary changes to the roster, you can make any team look better than any other team.
funny that you say that cuz that's exactly what these foreigner teams are doing by signing koreans, making themselves looking better with koreans who carry them with results. team suddenly changes from mediocre to top and all the fans are so in love with the new koreans just because they have the teams prefix.
i guess you'll be happy too when the team that picks up Taeja suddenly transforms into the best foreign team and vile.taeja will allkil whole teamliquid in any team league with one hand tied behind his back. vile or [insert any random foreign team] will be really snatching it that time.
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On March 20 2012 22:22 msjakofsky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 22:08 Talin wrote:On March 20 2012 21:04 msjakofsky wrote:On March 20 2012 16:30 Ruscour wrote: mouz and Empire were neck and neck for best foreign team, and TL came along and snatched it recently. TL 3-1. worth noting that mouz is still 100% foreigner while tl picked up 2 koreans... without the koreans mouz is still heads above everyone else Also worth noting is that if you make arbitrary changes to the roster, you can make any team look better than any other team. funny that you say that cuz that's exactly what these foreigner teams are doing by signing koreans, making themselves looking better with koreans who carry them with results. team suddenly changes from mediocre to top and all the fans are so in love with the new koreans just because they have the teams prefix.
Should probably stop signing Swedish and Ukrainian players too then, they also make their teams look better and carry them with results.
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I wanna see ThorZaiN get revenge
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On March 20 2012 22:22 msjakofsky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 22:08 Talin wrote:On March 20 2012 21:04 msjakofsky wrote:On March 20 2012 16:30 Ruscour wrote: mouz and Empire were neck and neck for best foreign team, and TL came along and snatched it recently. TL 3-1. worth noting that mouz is still 100% foreigner while tl picked up 2 koreans... without the koreans mouz is still heads above everyone else Also worth noting is that if you make arbitrary changes to the roster, you can make any team look better than any other team. funny that you say that cuz that's exactly what these foreigner teams are doing by signing koreans, making themselves looking better with koreans who carry them with results. team suddenly changes from mediocre to top and all the fans are so in love with the new koreans just because they have the teams prefix. i guess you'll be happy too when the team that picks up Taeja suddenly transforms into the best foreign team and vile.taeja will allkil whole teamliquid in any team league with one hand tied behind his back. vile or [insert any random foreign team] will be really snatching it that time.
lol, very subtle hating going on here
I agree with you, TL's foreign roster aren't carrying their weight.. I mean, Sheth did all-kill EG only a few weeks ago but It was because EG's koreans were having lag.. TLO taking out GumiHo 2 weeks ago and Empire.Kas this weekend.. Coinflips, clearly
And Ret, just winning the Red Bull LAN tournament - Not that big of a deal, going through PartinG and Naniwa was all it took.
But yeah, im sure that Taeja, with his insanely hard run through S1 Code A (Squirtle, Hyun, Lucky) is able to beat any team, at any time, with his hands behind his back, while picking his nose with his feet - No question!
*Edit* - Above is sarcasm! Please, don't crucify me!
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how can people vote on Mouz....Liquid has beat them last 2 times lol!...even 3...don't remmeber if they faced in iptl
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On March 20 2012 22:57 ELA wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 22:22 msjakofsky wrote:On March 20 2012 22:08 Talin wrote:On March 20 2012 21:04 msjakofsky wrote:On March 20 2012 16:30 Ruscour wrote: mouz and Empire were neck and neck for best foreign team, and TL came along and snatched it recently. TL 3-1. worth noting that mouz is still 100% foreigner while tl picked up 2 koreans... without the koreans mouz is still heads above everyone else Also worth noting is that if you make arbitrary changes to the roster, you can make any team look better than any other team. funny that you say that cuz that's exactly what these foreigner teams are doing by signing koreans, making themselves looking better with koreans who carry them with results. team suddenly changes from mediocre to top and all the fans are so in love with the new koreans just because they have the teams prefix. i guess you'll be happy too when the team that picks up Taeja suddenly transforms into the best foreign team and vile.taeja will allkil whole teamliquid in any team league with one hand tied behind his back. vile or [insert any random foreign team] will be really snatching it that time. lol, very subtle hating going on here I agree with you, TL's foreign roster aren't carrying their weight.. I mean, Sheth did all-kill EG only a few weeks ago but It was because EG's koreans were having lag.. TLO taking out GumiHo 2 weeks ago and Empire.Kas this weekend.. Coinflips, clearly And Ret, just winning the Red Bull LAN tournament - Not that big of a deal, going through PartinG and Naniwa was all it took. But yeah, im sure that Taeja, with his insanely hard run through S1 Code A (Squirtle, Hyun, Lucky) is able to beat any team, at any time, with his hands behind his back, while picking his nose with his feet - No question!
yeah right cuz random wins at online events etc matter just as much as tournament wins. nobody's saying sheth or ret are bad, but they're not really producing tourny results
you're also a little clueless about Taeja, not like i couldn't have written any random top korean player to make it true, but still
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On March 20 2012 23:19 msjakofsky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 22:57 ELA wrote:On March 20 2012 22:22 msjakofsky wrote:On March 20 2012 22:08 Talin wrote:On March 20 2012 21:04 msjakofsky wrote:On March 20 2012 16:30 Ruscour wrote: mouz and Empire were neck and neck for best foreign team, and TL came along and snatched it recently. TL 3-1. worth noting that mouz is still 100% foreigner while tl picked up 2 koreans... without the koreans mouz is still heads above everyone else Also worth noting is that if you make arbitrary changes to the roster, you can make any team look better than any other team. funny that you say that cuz that's exactly what these foreigner teams are doing by signing koreans, making themselves looking better with koreans who carry them with results. team suddenly changes from mediocre to top and all the fans are so in love with the new koreans just because they have the teams prefix. i guess you'll be happy too when the team that picks up Taeja suddenly transforms into the best foreign team and vile.taeja will allkil whole teamliquid in any team league with one hand tied behind his back. vile or [insert any random foreign team] will be really snatching it that time. lol, very subtle hating going on here I agree with you, TL's foreign roster aren't carrying their weight.. I mean, Sheth did all-kill EG only a few weeks ago but It was because EG's koreans were having lag.. TLO taking out GumiHo 2 weeks ago and Empire.Kas this weekend.. Coinflips, clearly And Ret, just winning the Red Bull LAN tournament - Not that big of a deal, going through PartinG and Naniwa was all it took. But yeah, im sure that Taeja, with his insanely hard run through S1 Code A (Squirtle, Hyun, Lucky) is able to beat any team, at any time, with his hands behind his back, while picking his nose with his feet - No question! yeah right cuz random wins at online events etc matter just as much as tournament wins. nobody's saying sheth or ret are bad, but they're not really producing tourny results you're also a little clueless about Taeja, not like i couldn't have written any random top korean player to make it true, but still ![[image loading]](http://oi41.tinypic.com/dd154k.jpg)
You dont think that its funny at all, that you say that winning random online tournaments arent as detrimental, when Korean Weekly itself is an online tournament?
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On March 20 2012 23:19 msjakofsky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 22:57 ELA wrote:On March 20 2012 22:22 msjakofsky wrote:On March 20 2012 22:08 Talin wrote:On March 20 2012 21:04 msjakofsky wrote:On March 20 2012 16:30 Ruscour wrote: mouz and Empire were neck and neck for best foreign team, and TL came along and snatched it recently. TL 3-1. worth noting that mouz is still 100% foreigner while tl picked up 2 koreans... without the koreans mouz is still heads above everyone else Also worth noting is that if you make arbitrary changes to the roster, you can make any team look better than any other team. funny that you say that cuz that's exactly what these foreigner teams are doing by signing koreans, making themselves looking better with koreans who carry them with results. team suddenly changes from mediocre to top and all the fans are so in love with the new koreans just because they have the teams prefix. i guess you'll be happy too when the team that picks up Taeja suddenly transforms into the best foreign team and vile.taeja will allkil whole teamliquid in any team league with one hand tied behind his back. vile or [insert any random foreign team] will be really snatching it that time. lol, very subtle hating going on here I agree with you, TL's foreign roster aren't carrying their weight.. I mean, Sheth did all-kill EG only a few weeks ago but It was because EG's koreans were having lag.. TLO taking out GumiHo 2 weeks ago and Empire.Kas this weekend.. Coinflips, clearly And Ret, just winning the Red Bull LAN tournament - Not that big of a deal, going through PartinG and Naniwa was all it took. But yeah, im sure that Taeja, with his insanely hard run through S1 Code A (Squirtle, Hyun, Lucky) is able to beat any team, at any time, with his hands behind his back, while picking his nose with his feet - No question! yeah right cuz random wins at online events etc matter just as much as tournament wins. nobody's saying sheth or ret are bad, but they're not really producing tourny results
Yeah, Ret has only won more individual LAN titles than all of Mouz players put together, had better overall results than all of them and actually qualified for the GSL.
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On March 20 2012 23:24 ELA wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 23:19 msjakofsky wrote:On March 20 2012 22:57 ELA wrote:On March 20 2012 22:22 msjakofsky wrote:On March 20 2012 22:08 Talin wrote:On March 20 2012 21:04 msjakofsky wrote:On March 20 2012 16:30 Ruscour wrote: mouz and Empire were neck and neck for best foreign team, and TL came along and snatched it recently. TL 3-1. worth noting that mouz is still 100% foreigner while tl picked up 2 koreans... without the koreans mouz is still heads above everyone else Also worth noting is that if you make arbitrary changes to the roster, you can make any team look better than any other team. funny that you say that cuz that's exactly what these foreigner teams are doing by signing koreans, making themselves looking better with koreans who carry them with results. team suddenly changes from mediocre to top and all the fans are so in love with the new koreans just because they have the teams prefix. i guess you'll be happy too when the team that picks up Taeja suddenly transforms into the best foreign team and vile.taeja will allkil whole teamliquid in any team league with one hand tied behind his back. vile or [insert any random foreign team] will be really snatching it that time. lol, very subtle hating going on here I agree with you, TL's foreign roster aren't carrying their weight.. I mean, Sheth did all-kill EG only a few weeks ago but It was because EG's koreans were having lag.. TLO taking out GumiHo 2 weeks ago and Empire.Kas this weekend.. Coinflips, clearly And Ret, just winning the Red Bull LAN tournament - Not that big of a deal, going through PartinG and Naniwa was all it took. But yeah, im sure that Taeja, with his insanely hard run through S1 Code A (Squirtle, Hyun, Lucky) is able to beat any team, at any time, with his hands behind his back, while picking his nose with his feet - No question! yeah right cuz random wins at online events etc matter just as much as tournament wins. nobody's saying sheth or ret are bad, but they're not really producing tourny results you're also a little clueless about Taeja, not like i couldn't have written any random top korean player to make it true, but still ![[image loading]](http://oi41.tinypic.com/dd154k.jpg) You dont think that its funny at all, that you say that winning random online tournaments arent as detrimental, when Korean Weekly itself is an online tournament? 
yeah you could be right if it wasn't the online tournament with the toughest competition in the world, taeja didn't have ridiculously good results in it, including staple winning records over many code S players/champions, + 2 allkills in gstl, etc. or are you denying taeja is one of the best terrans? outside of gsl he has THE best records. there isn't a foreign team that wouldn't have it's potential multiplied if they signed taeja now.
and if sheth and ret and tlo were actually winning online tournaments, yet they only have good results here and there by foreigner standards, i don't recall many actual wins.
Ret is a solid player, that's true, but him qualifying for gsl a year ago doesn't really help your point, and the fact that most of TL's major results are hero's wins doesn't either.
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On March 20 2012 23:58 msjakofsky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 23:24 ELA wrote:On March 20 2012 23:19 msjakofsky wrote:On March 20 2012 22:57 ELA wrote:On March 20 2012 22:22 msjakofsky wrote:On March 20 2012 22:08 Talin wrote:On March 20 2012 21:04 msjakofsky wrote:On March 20 2012 16:30 Ruscour wrote: mouz and Empire were neck and neck for best foreign team, and TL came along and snatched it recently. TL 3-1. worth noting that mouz is still 100% foreigner while tl picked up 2 koreans... without the koreans mouz is still heads above everyone else Also worth noting is that if you make arbitrary changes to the roster, you can make any team look better than any other team. funny that you say that cuz that's exactly what these foreigner teams are doing by signing koreans, making themselves looking better with koreans who carry them with results. team suddenly changes from mediocre to top and all the fans are so in love with the new koreans just because they have the teams prefix. i guess you'll be happy too when the team that picks up Taeja suddenly transforms into the best foreign team and vile.taeja will allkil whole teamliquid in any team league with one hand tied behind his back. vile or [insert any random foreign team] will be really snatching it that time. lol, very subtle hating going on here I agree with you, TL's foreign roster aren't carrying their weight.. I mean, Sheth did all-kill EG only a few weeks ago but It was because EG's koreans were having lag.. TLO taking out GumiHo 2 weeks ago and Empire.Kas this weekend.. Coinflips, clearly And Ret, just winning the Red Bull LAN tournament - Not that big of a deal, going through PartinG and Naniwa was all it took. But yeah, im sure that Taeja, with his insanely hard run through S1 Code A (Squirtle, Hyun, Lucky) is able to beat any team, at any time, with his hands behind his back, while picking his nose with his feet - No question! yeah right cuz random wins at online events etc matter just as much as tournament wins. nobody's saying sheth or ret are bad, but they're not really producing tourny results you're also a little clueless about Taeja, not like i couldn't have written any random top korean player to make it true, but still ![[image loading]](http://oi41.tinypic.com/dd154k.jpg) You dont think that its funny at all, that you say that winning random online tournaments arent as detrimental, when Korean Weekly itself is an online tournament?  yeah you could be right if it wasn't the online tournament with the toughest competition in the world, taeja didn't have ridiculously good results in it, including staple winning records over many code S players/champions, + 2 allkills in gstl, etc. or are you denying taeja is one of the best terrans? outside of gsl he has THE best records. there isn't a foreign team that wouldn't have it's potential multiplied if they signed taeja now. and if sheth and ret and tlo were actually winning online tournaments, yet they only have good results here and there by foreigner standards, i don't recall many actual wins. Ret is a solid player, that's true, but him qualifying for gsl a year ago doesn't really help your point, and the fact that most of TL's major results are hero's wins doesn't either.
just enjoy the games and quit whining like a little kid that got smacked around by a girl in the playground
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On March 21 2012 00:06 ninjamyst wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 23:58 msjakofsky wrote:On March 20 2012 23:24 ELA wrote:On March 20 2012 23:19 msjakofsky wrote:On March 20 2012 22:57 ELA wrote:On March 20 2012 22:22 msjakofsky wrote:On March 20 2012 22:08 Talin wrote:On March 20 2012 21:04 msjakofsky wrote:On March 20 2012 16:30 Ruscour wrote: mouz and Empire were neck and neck for best foreign team, and TL came along and snatched it recently. TL 3-1. worth noting that mouz is still 100% foreigner while tl picked up 2 koreans... without the koreans mouz is still heads above everyone else Also worth noting is that if you make arbitrary changes to the roster, you can make any team look better than any other team. funny that you say that cuz that's exactly what these foreigner teams are doing by signing koreans, making themselves looking better with koreans who carry them with results. team suddenly changes from mediocre to top and all the fans are so in love with the new koreans just because they have the teams prefix. i guess you'll be happy too when the team that picks up Taeja suddenly transforms into the best foreign team and vile.taeja will allkil whole teamliquid in any team league with one hand tied behind his back. vile or [insert any random foreign team] will be really snatching it that time. lol, very subtle hating going on here I agree with you, TL's foreign roster aren't carrying their weight.. I mean, Sheth did all-kill EG only a few weeks ago but It was because EG's koreans were having lag.. TLO taking out GumiHo 2 weeks ago and Empire.Kas this weekend.. Coinflips, clearly And Ret, just winning the Red Bull LAN tournament - Not that big of a deal, going through PartinG and Naniwa was all it took. But yeah, im sure that Taeja, with his insanely hard run through S1 Code A (Squirtle, Hyun, Lucky) is able to beat any team, at any time, with his hands behind his back, while picking his nose with his feet - No question! yeah right cuz random wins at online events etc matter just as much as tournament wins. nobody's saying sheth or ret are bad, but they're not really producing tourny results you're also a little clueless about Taeja, not like i couldn't have written any random top korean player to make it true, but still ![[image loading]](http://oi41.tinypic.com/dd154k.jpg) You dont think that its funny at all, that you say that winning random online tournaments arent as detrimental, when Korean Weekly itself is an online tournament?  yeah you could be right if it wasn't the online tournament with the toughest competition in the world, taeja didn't have ridiculously good results in it, including staple winning records over many code S players/champions, + 2 allkills in gstl, etc. or are you denying taeja is one of the best terrans? outside of gsl he has THE best records. there isn't a foreign team that wouldn't have it's potential multiplied if they signed taeja now. and if sheth and ret and tlo were actually winning online tournaments, yet they only have good results here and there by foreigner standards, i don't recall many actual wins. Ret is a solid player, that's true, but him qualifying for gsl a year ago doesn't really help your point, and the fact that most of TL's major results are hero's wins doesn't either. just enjoy the games and quit whining like a little kid that got smacked around by a girl in the playground
not agreeing with the praise of liquid team is not whining.
just learn to argue and quit acting like a little kid who thinks he is badass because he used swear words in the kindergarten.
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On March 20 2012 23:58 msjakofsky wrote: Ret is a solid player, that's true, but him qualifying for gsl a year ago doesn't really help your point, and the fact that most of TL's major results are hero's wins doesn't either.
Ret won more LAN tournaments than HerO, Jinro has a better GSL record than him (as does Zenio for that matter), Sheth has a similar team league record and has contributed just as much to team league results.
You're just digging yourself in deeper, why would you not check whether what you're talking about is factually true before posting? -_-
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On March 20 2012 22:57 ELA wrote: I agree with you, TL's foreign roster aren't carrying their weight.. I mean, Sheth did all-kill EG only a few weeks ago but It was because EG's koreans were having lag.. TLO taking out GumiHo 2 weeks ago and Empire.Kas this weekend.. Coinflips, clearly
And Ret, just winning the Red Bull LAN tournament - Not that big of a deal, going through PartinG and Naniwa was all it took. God please. Don't state things as they are facts when you have little to zero knowledge of the situation(s).
Edit: Didn't spot the sarcasm.
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On March 20 2012 23:58 msjakofsky wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 23:24 ELA wrote:On March 20 2012 23:19 msjakofsky wrote:On March 20 2012 22:57 ELA wrote:On March 20 2012 22:22 msjakofsky wrote:On March 20 2012 22:08 Talin wrote:On March 20 2012 21:04 msjakofsky wrote:On March 20 2012 16:30 Ruscour wrote: mouz and Empire were neck and neck for best foreign team, and TL came along and snatched it recently. TL 3-1. worth noting that mouz is still 100% foreigner while tl picked up 2 koreans... without the koreans mouz is still heads above everyone else Also worth noting is that if you make arbitrary changes to the roster, you can make any team look better than any other team. funny that you say that cuz that's exactly what these foreigner teams are doing by signing koreans, making themselves looking better with koreans who carry them with results. team suddenly changes from mediocre to top and all the fans are so in love with the new koreans just because they have the teams prefix. i guess you'll be happy too when the team that picks up Taeja suddenly transforms into the best foreign team and vile.taeja will allkil whole teamliquid in any team league with one hand tied behind his back. vile or [insert any random foreign team] will be really snatching it that time. lol, very subtle hating going on here I agree with you, TL's foreign roster aren't carrying their weight.. I mean, Sheth did all-kill EG only a few weeks ago but It was because EG's koreans were having lag.. TLO taking out GumiHo 2 weeks ago and Empire.Kas this weekend.. Coinflips, clearly And Ret, just winning the Red Bull LAN tournament - Not that big of a deal, going through PartinG and Naniwa was all it took. But yeah, im sure that Taeja, with his insanely hard run through S1 Code A (Squirtle, Hyun, Lucky) is able to beat any team, at any time, with his hands behind his back, while picking his nose with his feet - No question! yeah right cuz random wins at online events etc matter just as much as tournament wins. nobody's saying sheth or ret are bad, but they're not really producing tourny results you're also a little clueless about Taeja, not like i couldn't have written any random top korean player to make it true, but still ![[image loading]](http://oi41.tinypic.com/dd154k.jpg) You dont think that its funny at all, that you say that winning random online tournaments arent as detrimental, when Korean Weekly itself is an online tournament?  yeah you could be right if it wasn't the online tournament with the toughest competition in the world, taeja didn't have ridiculously good results in it, including staple winning records over many code S players/champions, + 2 allkills in gstl, etc. or are you denying taeja is one of the best terrans? outside of gsl he has THE best records. there isn't a foreign team that wouldn't have it's potential multiplied if they signed taeja now. and if sheth and ret and tlo were actually winning online tournaments, yet they only have good results here and there by foreigner standards, i don't recall many actual wins. Ret is a solid player, that's true, but him qualifying for gsl a year ago doesn't really help your point, and the fact that most of TL's major results are hero's wins doesn't either.
lol
Here's Ret and Sheth's wins alone: Ret
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/D1J8T.png)
Sheth
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/FG0JZ.png)
I dont even know why I bother linking this to you, as you are clearly biased - But just look up TeamLiquid and MouzSports on TL-pedia, look on tournament wins, count off HerO and Zenio's wins if you must, and TL still has way more and prestigious wins than Mouz has..
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when will the VODs of the previous matches be released on the website?
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On March 21 2012 00:16 Bumblebee wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2012 22:57 ELA wrote: I agree with you, TL's foreign roster aren't carrying their weight.. I mean, Sheth did all-kill EG only a few weeks ago but It was because EG's koreans were having lag.. TLO taking out GumiHo 2 weeks ago and Empire.Kas this weekend.. Coinflips, clearly
And Ret, just winning the Red Bull LAN tournament - Not that big of a deal, going through PartinG and Naniwa was all it took. God please. Don't state things as they are facts when you have little to zero knowledge of the situation(s).
I think he was being sarcastic.
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