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TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 19:25:29
March 21 2012 05:49 GMT
#501
On March 21 2012 14:29 Seeker wrote:
Ouch..... mouz got their revenge :/

Seeker you are so lol

also I forgot HUK! huk is coming back too for MLG <<<< wow this is so awkward
~~! youtube.com/xmungam1 !~~
brachester
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia1786 Posts
March 21 2012 05:54 GMT
#502
I just realized TL line up are all zergs lol
I hate all this singing
onedayclose
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1145 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 06:06:25
March 21 2012 06:03 GMT
#503
Wow I love how Liquid failed in broodwar like fashion + Show Spoiler +
KT used 3 zergs+ Flash and won 4-0 over CJ entus!!!
and played only zergs!
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
March 21 2012 08:00 GMT
#504
nice mouz

liquid without hero just can`t compete vs the really big names...
MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
GwSC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1997 Posts
March 21 2012 08:03 GMT
#505
On March 21 2012 17:00 sVnteen wrote:
nice mouz

liquid without hero just can`t compete vs the really big names...


Teams have a hard time without their best player, go figure -_-
Things would look pretty different for mouz without Thorzain in the lineup.
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4767 Posts
March 21 2012 08:08 GMT
#506
Yeah Mouz! Pitty its not the other way around (winning final of NASTL and losing this one) but its good nontheless. Showing true power to nonbelivers hehe
Pathetic Greta hater.
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
March 21 2012 08:25 GMT
#507
On March 21 2012 17:03 GwSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 17:00 sVnteen wrote:
nice mouz

liquid without hero just can`t compete vs the really big names...


Teams have a hard time without their best player, go figure -_-
Things would look pretty different for mouz without Thorzain in the lineup.
Quite sure HasuObs could beat TLO too.
#freeshauni
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
March 21 2012 09:06 GMT
#508
biGs is too good! gg Mouz
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
Sigz
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada86 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-21 09:25:09
March 21 2012 09:20 GMT
#509
On March 21 2012 17:25 Elem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 17:03 GwSC wrote:
On March 21 2012 17:00 sVnteen wrote:
nice mouz

liquid without hero just can`t compete vs the really big names...


Teams have a hard time without their best player, go figure -_-
Things would look pretty different for mouz without Thorzain in the lineup.
Quite sure HasuObs could beat TLO too.


First of all TLO has the potential to beat both of them as they both have the potential to beat him... if you were betting on the game maybe you would put your money on Hasu or Thorzain to win but TLO wouldn't be a huge underdog anyways 2-1/3-2 realistically at the most with the strategical variance of the game.

Anybody can beat anybody that is the nature of the game, not many people would think ret would lose to bigs but it happened... liquid could win without hero just as mouz could win without thorzain or hasu or whatever... nobody on these teams is so unstoppable that they can't lose a best of 3 to a player who has time to prepare stylistically and strategically for the matchup as there is still so much in this game that is not fine tuned to perfection yet, one or two bad positional engagements or a lack of scouting at the proper time can outright end a game.

You may be right if it was an all kill format that liquid would have a much harder time without hero or Thorzain for mouz but in this format they couldve won 3-1 in the series without ever bringing it to an ace match if things had turned out differently. 1) TLO beat thorzain which he had a shot at, the series was 2-1 and a couple bad engagements really costed him 2) Ret not losing unexpectingly to bigs... 3) if Ret had beat bigs it would have went to ace match even with TLO's loss where they still have options to take down mouz's ace regardless of who it is if Ret or Zenio are on their game and Hero can't play for some reason. obviously these are all good players on high level teams so there is bound to be variation in winning and losing... nobody is unstoppable. Every player that has been called unstoppable MC, Nestea, MVP have all gone through losing streaks and lost to some players that people wouldn't consider the elite of the elite in korea or the foreigner scene.
Shackadeemus
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland247 Posts
March 21 2012 09:20 GMT
#510
Had a feeling mouz would win this. Rets ZvZ still not great, it's a pitty.
Pirate-bird ftw.
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
March 21 2012 09:25 GMT
#511
On March 21 2012 18:20 Sigz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 17:25 Elem wrote:
On March 21 2012 17:03 GwSC wrote:
On March 21 2012 17:00 sVnteen wrote:
nice mouz

liquid without hero just can`t compete vs the really big names...


Teams have a hard time without their best player, go figure -_-
Things would look pretty different for mouz without Thorzain in the lineup.
Quite sure HasuObs could beat TLO too.


First of all TLO has the potential to beat both of them as they both have the potential to beat him... if you were betting on the game maybe you would put your money on Hasu or Thorzain to win but the odds wouldn't be better then 2-1/3-2 realistically with the strategical variance of the game.

Anybody can beat anybody that is the nature of the game, not many people would think ret would lose to bigs but it happened... liquid could win without hero just as mouz could win without thorzain or hasu or whatever... nobody on these teams is so unstoppable that they can't lose a best of 3 to a player who has time to prepare stylistically and strategically for the matchup as there is still so much in this game that is not fine tuned to perfection yet, one or two bad positional engagements or a lack of scouting at the proper time can outright end a game.

You may be right if it was an all kill format that liquid would have a much harder time without hero or Thorzain for mouz but in this format they couldve won 3-1 in the series without ever bringing it to an ace match if things had turned out differently. 1) TLO beat thorzain which he had a shot at, the series was 2-1 and a couple bad engagements really costed him 2) Ret not losing unexpectingly to bigs... 3) if Ret had beat bigs it would have went to ace match where they still have options to take down mouz's ace regardless of who it is if Ret or Zenio are on their game and Hero can't play for some reason. obviously these are all good players on high level teams so there is bound to be variation in winning and losing... nobody is unstoppable. Every player that has been called unstoppable MC, Nestea, MVP have all gone through losing streaks and lost to some players that people wouldn't consider the elite of the elite in korea or the foreigner scene.
My point was that mouz is a lot less reliant on their "ace" player than Liquid are. You do not need to type out a wall of text and take it way out of context.
#freeshauni
GunPaladin
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1205 Posts
March 21 2012 10:10 GMT
#512
On March 21 2012 14:23 Ricemagical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 14:19 blade55555 wrote:
On March 21 2012 14:05 GunPaladin wrote:
Mouz unstoppable, I love the Liquid guys but maybe it's time to diversify their ranks.


What? You do realize that liquid just beat mouz in the NASL team league finals right?

I think he meant that maybe sending out an all-zerg lineup wasn't the best idea, and sprinkling in a little hero might've helped.

Exactly, there's no questioning the skill that dwells within Liquid. But an all zerg line-up just isn't good for a pro team.
The doctors gave me 9 months to live, ]BIG[ gave me a life time.
dpL
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden571 Posts
March 21 2012 11:03 GMT
#513
Morran seems to have benefited immensely from his stay in Korea. That was a pretty impressive 2 - 0.
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
March 21 2012 11:14 GMT
#514
Grats Mouz, nice revenge.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
March 21 2012 11:53 GMT
#515
On March 21 2012 20:03 dpL wrote:
Morran seems to have benefited immensely from his stay in Korea. That was a pretty impressive 2 - 0.


I hope Morrow did benefit aswell !

Grats to Mouz, got some payback after NASL, goes to show one day 1 team can win and another day the other wins, close competion for sure.
Bjoernzor
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden159 Posts
March 21 2012 11:57 GMT
#516
Sweet sweet revenge
"There is nothing cooler than being passionate about the things you love" - Day9
DoubleB
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany870 Posts
March 21 2012 12:03 GMT
#517
I never really noticed TeamLiquid only got 2 P and 1 T.... The roost should be more balanced, shouldn't it?
I mean a good player in XvZ will pwn TL :O
Cush
Profile Joined September 2010
United States646 Posts
March 21 2012 13:19 GMT
#518
On March 21 2012 14:24 HQuality wrote:
no hero no win ^_^

No Thorzain no win.

You can say the same things about both teams.
"That's not your main base Stardust.....Stardust.....that's not your main" Sayle
Farone
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
March 21 2012 13:38 GMT
#519
Ret lost to biGs? I allways have biGs in a high spot, but beating RedBullRet is big, nice job from him~!

allways nice to see these rivals play each other( mouz and TL I mean~!)
MC, Stephano, Ret, Jjakji, Grubby, Life, HerO, Scarlett, TaeJa
CarlosOmse
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany507 Posts
March 21 2012 13:40 GMT
#520
wohooo fall asleep after morrows game. rly nice bigs could be make it! But its always bad if ur 2 favourite teams compete gainst each other
a book is like a mirror if a monkey looks into it no philosopher will look back
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