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1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
January 23 2012 04:33 GMT
#201
On January 23 2012 13:31 double620 wrote:
I feel like Polt belongs to CodeS and Hero belongs to CodeA. Not to mention other things, Polt basically outmicro and out multi-tasking Hero all the time.


I don't even think Hero belongs in Code A. He's never really proven he can even compete with the average Code Aer.
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
IMStyle
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada52 Posts
January 23 2012 04:34 GMT
#202
On January 23 2012 13:31 double620 wrote:
I feel like Polt belongs to CodeS and Hero belongs to CodeA. Not to mention other things, Polt basically outmicro and out multi-tasking Hero all the time.

Don't let the hero fans see this. They seem to get mad.
Sexy, and I know it.
R!!
Profile Joined November 2011
Brazil938 Posts
January 23 2012 04:34 GMT
#203
Polt isn't exactly fast with his hands, he is extremely precise, smart and has amazing decisions.
I like the part where sense is considered a common, settled thing.
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
January 23 2012 04:34 GMT
#204
Lol it was a joke. But I guess sarcasm is hard to detect on the internet.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 04:36:01
January 23 2012 04:35 GMT
#205
On January 23 2012 13:33 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 13:31 double620 wrote:
I feel like Polt belongs to CodeS and Hero belongs to CodeA. Not to mention other things, Polt basically outmicro and out multi-tasking Hero all the time.


I don't even think Hero belongs in Code A. He's never really proven he can even compete with the average Code Aer.


To be fair the level of Code A has vastly risen in the last 2-3 GSLs. Most of the mediocre Code S players are now in Code A, and Code S has barely any weak players anymore.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 23 2012 04:36 GMT
#206
On January 23 2012 13:33 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 13:31 double620 wrote:
I feel like Polt belongs to CodeS and Hero belongs to CodeA. Not to mention other things, Polt basically outmicro and out multi-tasking Hero all the time.


I don't even think Hero belongs in Code A. He's never really proven he can even compete with the average Code Aer.


The fact that Hero has survived elimination from Code A suggests that he belongs there. But his recent poor play, starting with the Blizzard Cup, is troubling for Hero's chances of remaining in Code A. But Hero was utterly destroyed by Polt today.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
January 23 2012 04:39 GMT
#207
On January 23 2012 13:36 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 13:33 1Eris1 wrote:
On January 23 2012 13:31 double620 wrote:
I feel like Polt belongs to CodeS and Hero belongs to CodeA. Not to mention other things, Polt basically outmicro and out multi-tasking Hero all the time.


I don't even think Hero belongs in Code A. He's never really proven he can even compete with the average Code Aer.


The fact that Hero has survived elimination from Code A suggests that he belongs there. But his recent poor play, starting with the Blizzard Cup, is troubling for Hero's chances of remaining in Code A. But Hero was utterly destroyed by Polt today.


I'm not sure if you can even call that "poor play", considering that Hero was never a top tier player in Korea.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
IMStyle
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada52 Posts
January 23 2012 04:40 GMT
#208
On January 23 2012 13:36 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 13:33 1Eris1 wrote:
On January 23 2012 13:31 double620 wrote:
I feel like Polt belongs to CodeS and Hero belongs to CodeA. Not to mention other things, Polt basically outmicro and out multi-tasking Hero all the time.


I don't even think Hero belongs in Code A. He's never really proven he can even compete with the average Code Aer.


The fact that Hero has survived elimination from Code A suggests that he belongs there. But his recent poor play, starting with the Blizzard Cup, is troubling for Hero's chances of remaining in Code A. But Hero was utterly destroyed by Polt today.


Can you say inca belongs in code s then...
Sexy, and I know it.
double620
Profile Joined July 2011
China804 Posts
January 23 2012 04:40 GMT
#209
On January 23 2012 13:33 1Eris1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 13:31 double620 wrote:
I feel like Polt belongs to CodeS and Hero belongs to CodeA. Not to mention other things, Polt basically outmicro and out multi-tasking Hero all the time.


I don't even think Hero belongs in Code A. He's never really proven he can even compete with the average Code Aer.



To be fair, he defeated DRG to qualify to CodeA and droped out and then he managed to qualify again and this is impressive. And last season he did manage to make it to the up and down.
I feel like Hero needs to learn sth from Mc's experience. When Mc was playing tournaments non stop, he found himself started to fall behind. And look at Mc now, after the MLG providence, he cancel dreamhack so that he could focus on blizz cup. And after HSC, he only concentrates on gsl. He is having a holiday in Korea while hero is still flying all over the world.
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
January 23 2012 04:41 GMT
#210
On January 23 2012 13:34 R!! wrote:
Polt isn't exactly fast with his hands, he is extremely precise, smart and has amazing decisions.

exactly lol, if anyone has a chance to watch his stream will notice this, he never spam the crap out of anything, pretty slow compare to others but very precise.
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
January 23 2012 04:41 GMT
#211
On January 23 2012 13:35 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 13:33 1Eris1 wrote:
On January 23 2012 13:31 double620 wrote:
I feel like Polt belongs to CodeS and Hero belongs to CodeA. Not to mention other things, Polt basically outmicro and out multi-tasking Hero all the time.


I don't even think Hero belongs in Code A. He's never really proven he can even compete with the average Code Aer.


To be fair the level of Code A has vastly risen in the last 2-3 GSLs. Most of the mediocre Code S players are now in Code A, and Code S has barely any weak players anymore.


Yeah especially with the new format in code S there is much less upsets (good thing).
jupiter6
Profile Joined December 2011
205 Posts
January 23 2012 04:43 GMT
#212
vods/replays?
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
January 23 2012 04:43 GMT
#213
On January 23 2012 13:31 double620 wrote:
I feel like Polt belongs to CodeS and Hero belongs to CodeA. Not to mention other things, Polt basically outmicro and out multi-tasking Hero all the time.

yeah any need for arguing that Polt belongs or not ? seriously he won some of the hardest GSL and ended up in top5 ranking. when does ppl finally decide to give him Polt some fuckin credit ? I mean, lots of it
nat
Profile Joined September 2010
216 Posts
January 23 2012 04:43 GMT
#214
On January 23 2012 13:41 tuho12345 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 13:34 R!! wrote:
Polt isn't exactly fast with his hands, he is extremely precise, smart and has amazing decisions.

exactly lol, if anyone has a chance to watch his stream will notice this, he never spam the crap out of anything, pretty slow compare to others but very precise.


Totally agree on this, when i watch his stream i cant believe how slow it looks...and somehow he completely dominates all his games and defends everything thrown at him
double620
Profile Joined July 2011
China804 Posts
January 23 2012 04:46 GMT
#215
On January 23 2012 13:41 tuho12345 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 13:34 R!! wrote:
Polt isn't exactly fast with his hands, he is extremely precise, smart and has amazing decisions.

exactly lol, if anyone has a chance to watch his stream will notice this, he never spam the crap out of anything, pretty slow compare to others but very precise.



He has good knowlege on this game. I watch his stream sometimes and compare to Mc's, he is slow enough. But he can defeat Mc.
As a Mc fan, I have to say Polt is really good at this game.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 23 2012 04:48 GMT
#216
On January 23 2012 13:39 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 13:36 Bagration wrote:
On January 23 2012 13:33 1Eris1 wrote:
On January 23 2012 13:31 double620 wrote:
I feel like Polt belongs to CodeS and Hero belongs to CodeA. Not to mention other things, Polt basically outmicro and out multi-tasking Hero all the time.


I don't even think Hero belongs in Code A. He's never really proven he can even compete with the average Code Aer.


The fact that Hero has survived elimination from Code A suggests that he belongs there. But his recent poor play, starting with the Blizzard Cup, is troubling for Hero's chances of remaining in Code A. But Hero was utterly destroyed by Polt today.


I'm not sure if you can even call that "poor play", considering that Hero was never a top tier player in Korea.


I was referring to the fact that he got knocked out in the group stages in HSC 4 and IEM Kiev. While he has never been a top Korean player, he at least was dominant against foreigners last year. Now it seems he cannot even beat them consistently.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
January 23 2012 04:50 GMT
#217
On January 23 2012 13:48 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 13:39 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On January 23 2012 13:36 Bagration wrote:
On January 23 2012 13:33 1Eris1 wrote:
On January 23 2012 13:31 double620 wrote:
I feel like Polt belongs to CodeS and Hero belongs to CodeA. Not to mention other things, Polt basically outmicro and out multi-tasking Hero all the time.


I don't even think Hero belongs in Code A. He's never really proven he can even compete with the average Code Aer.


The fact that Hero has survived elimination from Code A suggests that he belongs there. But his recent poor play, starting with the Blizzard Cup, is troubling for Hero's chances of remaining in Code A. But Hero was utterly destroyed by Polt today.


I'm not sure if you can even call that "poor play", considering that Hero was never a top tier player in Korea.


I was referring to the fact that he got knocked out in the group stages in HSC 4 and IEM Kiev. While he has never been a top Korean player, he at least was dominant against foreigners last year. Now it seems he cannot even beat them consistently.


I think that's less indicative of his skill level and more indicative of the fact that the guy plays so much with foreigners that they kind of know of his style more and more as they had to prepare for him more.
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 04:55:44
January 23 2012 04:53 GMT
#218
On January 23 2012 13:48 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 13:39 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On January 23 2012 13:36 Bagration wrote:
On January 23 2012 13:33 1Eris1 wrote:
On January 23 2012 13:31 double620 wrote:
I feel like Polt belongs to CodeS and Hero belongs to CodeA. Not to mention other things, Polt basically outmicro and out multi-tasking Hero all the time.


I don't even think Hero belongs in Code A. He's never really proven he can even compete with the average Code Aer.


The fact that Hero has survived elimination from Code A suggests that he belongs there. But his recent poor play, starting with the Blizzard Cup, is troubling for Hero's chances of remaining in Code A. But Hero was utterly destroyed by Polt today.


I'm not sure if you can even call that "poor play", considering that Hero was never a top tier player in Korea.


I was referring to the fact that he got knocked out in the group stages in HSC 4 and IEM Kiev. While he has never been a top Korean player, he at least was dominant against foreigners last year. Now it seems he cannot even beat them consistently.


Losing to Violet (one of the best ZvPs outside of Korea) and Nerchio (ditto) is not bad at all. Barely not making it out of his group because of a PvP and a somewhat BO loss is not terrible either. If this trend continues then we can determine whether it's a personal slump or an indication of decaying skill.

On January 23 2012 13:41 mango_destroyer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 13:35 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On January 23 2012 13:33 1Eris1 wrote:
On January 23 2012 13:31 double620 wrote:
I feel like Polt belongs to CodeS and Hero belongs to CodeA. Not to mention other things, Polt basically outmicro and out multi-tasking Hero all the time.


I don't even think Hero belongs in Code A. He's never really proven he can even compete with the average Code Aer.


To be fair the level of Code A has vastly risen in the last 2-3 GSLs. Most of the mediocre Code S players are now in Code A, and Code S has barely any weak players anymore.


Yeah especially with the new format in code S there is much less upsets (good thing).


There are still plenty of upsets but now they feel like legitimate showings of skill rather than luck.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
January 23 2012 04:54 GMT
#219
On January 23 2012 13:50 wklbishop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 13:48 Bagration wrote:
On January 23 2012 13:39 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On January 23 2012 13:36 Bagration wrote:
On January 23 2012 13:33 1Eris1 wrote:
On January 23 2012 13:31 double620 wrote:
I feel like Polt belongs to CodeS and Hero belongs to CodeA. Not to mention other things, Polt basically outmicro and out multi-tasking Hero all the time.


I don't even think Hero belongs in Code A. He's never really proven he can even compete with the average Code Aer.


The fact that Hero has survived elimination from Code A suggests that he belongs there. But his recent poor play, starting with the Blizzard Cup, is troubling for Hero's chances of remaining in Code A. But Hero was utterly destroyed by Polt today.


I'm not sure if you can even call that "poor play", considering that Hero was never a top tier player in Korea.


I was referring to the fact that he got knocked out in the group stages in HSC 4 and IEM Kiev. While he has never been a top Korean player, he at least was dominant against foreigners last year. Now it seems he cannot even beat them consistently.


I think that's less indicative of his skill level and more indicative of the fact that the guy plays so much with foreigners that they kind of know of his style more and more as they had to prepare for him more.


Look at the way he's been knocked out instead of results. He made a bunch of mistakes and build order choices. Nobody figured out his style.
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 05:03:33
January 23 2012 05:03 GMT
#220
On January 23 2012 13:54 GreyKnight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 13:50 wklbishop wrote:
On January 23 2012 13:48 Bagration wrote:
On January 23 2012 13:39 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On January 23 2012 13:36 Bagration wrote:
On January 23 2012 13:33 1Eris1 wrote:
On January 23 2012 13:31 double620 wrote:
I feel like Polt belongs to CodeS and Hero belongs to CodeA. Not to mention other things, Polt basically outmicro and out multi-tasking Hero all the time.


I don't even think Hero belongs in Code A. He's never really proven he can even compete with the average Code Aer.


The fact that Hero has survived elimination from Code A suggests that he belongs there. But his recent poor play, starting with the Blizzard Cup, is troubling for Hero's chances of remaining in Code A. But Hero was utterly destroyed by Polt today.


I'm not sure if you can even call that "poor play", considering that Hero was never a top tier player in Korea.


I was referring to the fact that he got knocked out in the group stages in HSC 4 and IEM Kiev. While he has never been a top Korean player, he at least was dominant against foreigners last year. Now it seems he cannot even beat them consistently.


I think that's less indicative of his skill level and more indicative of the fact that the guy plays so much with foreigners that they kind of know of his style more and more as they had to prepare for him more.


Look at the way he's been knocked out instead of results. He made a bunch of mistakes and build order choices. Nobody figured out his style.


That's true of the games against Feast.

But I feel like zerg players like Violet and Nerchio are better at dealing with his kind of harass, along with a few other players that while didn;t defeat him, still took a game or two off him. Not saying his style is figured out, just saying it's not as effective. I mean... I don't see him doing sentry drops or stuff like that to AS great effect as before.
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