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On January 10 2012 19:42 Fionn wrote:
Why are people calling Supernova a cheeser?
He usually has one of the safest, mech-style plays of any of the Terrans.
ya people are stupid
he got really sick normal macro game. and just cause a player cheeses to victory in a bo3 people think hes relying on it
its still disappointing to see such a high risk play in early game sc2 tho. that goes to the cheeser and the overly greedy one
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anyone knows what song is playing now? <3 this music
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Seeker
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On January 10 2012 19:43 Hofo wrote:
Why is everyone saying 111 is all-in or cheese? Its not :/
Not cheese, but it's an all in
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Oh shit!!! ForGG lose 2 times to LeeNock 
That wasn't what I expect...I thought he is Flash sidekick ...
Did he play bad? Or close game?
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On January 10 2012 19:37 darkscream wrote:raping foreigners creates the illusion of skill
I swear to god people in these threads can be so stupid. MC has no skill? Hopeless.
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Wow, can we just talk about the games and not your whines about balance? I wish tl would make a forum rule that gets you banned for whining.
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On January 10 2012 19:42 darkscream wrote:
the MC fanboi tears are so delicious
T'was said by LiquidTyler once, MC is risky and gimmicky, and that risky play will come back to bite him..
... but since he's walking around with Take's money in his pocket, I can't imagine he minds too much.
he wasn't playing risky of gimmicky at all.
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On January 10 2012 19:43 Seeker wrote:
0/2 in liquibets.... Sighhhh
And probably about to go 0/3. You are not alone.
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On January 10 2012 19:42 Twinmold wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2012 19:41 Dodgin wrote:On January 10 2012 19:40 Twinmold wrote:
Now I only want to watch SuperNova get smashed by Leonock followed by him dropping down to Code A. If you have to rely on allins to win a Bo3 you don't deserve a Code S spot. You do what it takes to win... Ofcourse, but I still don't want him in Code S if this is all he can do. "Deserve" might not have been the best possible word choice.
Dude, come on. Ganzi does the same thing every game and no one gives him any hate. Plus Supernova is one of the better macro players out there. He's just cheesing this series
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From now on, I'll just remember this GSL as the Hot Sex GSL.
SuperNova has a hot nose. 10/10 would poke again.
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On January 10 2012 19:37 deadmau wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2012 19:35 urdak wrote:
supernova goes for an all-in 3 times in a row... kk You mean twice?
and it worked. gg
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On January 10 2012 19:42 Fionn wrote:
Why are people calling Supernova a cheeser?
He usually has one of the safest, mech-style plays of any of the Terrans.
I think people just have an innate need to hate, especially when it's a terran who GOD FORBID doesn't 1 gate FE or 2 rax.
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Wait, let's think a minute.
You are SuperNova, you play against one of the strongest protoss in the world, you know that and he is in your team.
You play a billion game against him and he win maybe 80% of the game when it goes to late game.
So what do you do to win, because the only thing you want is to win ? You play allin and hope MC will not see it coming by deny scouting perfectly.
These are allin and are good, it's mindgame, it's intelligent, and it takes guts to do it in GSL, because one mistake of denying scout and you're dead.
Yes it is easy to do, but you need to know your opponent to do it, to trick him.
Why make a fist fight when you have a gun ?
MC had to be safer that's it.
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On January 10 2012 19:43 Senixter wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2012 19:39 Lysanias wrote:On January 10 2012 19:38 MetalLobster wrote:
I knew supernova couldn't win without using 1/1/1 Why should he, it's a valid strat, MC cheeses all the time aswell. Part of the game and Supernova fooled him like a BOSS. Future protoss players will know he can only 111 in order to win then he's fucked.
Existing Protoss players look at Supernova's TvP as one of the best in Korea given stats and % so obviously he hasn't been figured out yet as he?
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On January 10 2012 19:43 Seeker wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2012 19:43 Hofo wrote:
Why is everyone saying 111 is all-in or cheese? Its not :/ Not cheese, but it's an all in
I wouldnt call it an all in either really...but thats just me I suppose... Its a strat you can expand from.. but hopefully keep the toss at bay.
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On January 10 2012 19:43 Senixter wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2012 19:39 Lysanias wrote:On January 10 2012 19:38 MetalLobster wrote:
I knew supernova couldn't win without using 1/1/1 Why should he, it's a valid strat, MC cheeses all the time aswell. Part of the game and Supernova fooled him like a BOSS. Future protoss players will know he can only 111 in order to win then he's fucked.
He can play a bit more ways then that 
Also MC is his teammate training together daily why would you play like you always do ... You don't think much do you.
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On January 10 2012 19:40 CortoMontez wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2012 19:38 Nocteo wrote:On January 10 2012 19:37 CortoMontez wrote:
How exactly can you know what a terran is doing... they are unscoutable! I heard observers do quite a good job scouting. So blind robo every game?
Yes? Any reason not to get a building producing invisible flying units that tell you so much about what your opponent is doing? Unless you're yourself planning for a blind 6/7 gate all-in?
On January 10 2012 19:42 WigglingSquid wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2012 19:40 TheDwf wrote:On January 10 2012 19:38 WigglingSquid wrote:
Terran early game was always perplexing me about cloaking and detection, and this is a good example of my reasons. It makes for very boring BO losses against every race which needs tech to detect... every one but Terran. You know there are BO losses to Cloak Banshees even in TvT, right? Yes, of course, but scans allow for some entertainment and players can afford not to just think "oh well, I can type gg right now because I can not even try to take down that banshee to limit damage".
Scans? More like scan without s. And having one scan won't be enough sometimes, because you won't always have enough to kill the Banshee before it flies away from the Scan radius.
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On January 10 2012 19:43 Roostalol wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2012 19:40 Twinmold wrote:
Now I only want to watch SuperNova get smashed by Leonock followed by him dropping down to Code A. If you have to rely on allins to win a Bo3 you don't deserve a Code S spot. So you don't think MC deserves Code S either? This is even exactly why he dropped out of Code S before! It will probably take you quite a while to find a Code S game in which MC goes to three bases.
If MC had allined all three games I wouldn't exactly be cheering him on now either.
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On January 10 2012 19:37 MorroW wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2012 19:36 Thugtronik wrote:On January 10 2012 19:34 bittman wrote:
BO loss =( i don't know if i'd call this a build order loss. supernova with the brilliant mindgames this game. its still silly because theres too many early games in tvp that end with "brilliant mindgames". its just the result of smart players who understand starcraft 2 alot in an early game with buildorders that reward risky play too much in tvz and zvt you can do stuff that kinda gets you ahead abit (if its succesful) but theres not alot of stuff you can do to actually just end it
its silly, but dont you think mc should be punished for taking shortcuts while scouting?
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