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Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
January 10 2012 10:45 GMT
#1901
The only way this group will ever live up to my expectations is if ForGG beats MC (sad face T_T <3 Mc) and then goes on to beat Leenock and make it into the group (hoping supernova to beat leenock, give mc a bit more cerdit if the person he lost too got out of the group)
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Swink
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia26 Posts
January 10 2012 10:45 GMT
#1902
Leenock boss kid got this
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
January 10 2012 10:45 GMT
#1903
On January 10 2012 19:42 Fionn wrote:
Why are people calling Supernova a cheeser?

He usually has one of the safest, mech-style plays of any of the Terrans.


Because he went 1/1/1 in game one and went cloak banshee in all three games. I'm not saying Supernova is a cheesy player, but that was definitely a cheesy series. Also, people love MC and flying a banshee into a mineral line and cloaking it then clicking H for hold position makes for a sad way for a fan favorite to lose a game 3.

But it happens. Supernova wants to win, so he does cloak banshee. It's good against Protoss.

Observers please.
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
January 10 2012 10:45 GMT
#1904
On January 10 2012 19:43 teamamerica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 19:37 SC2Phoenix wrote:
On January 10 2012 19:36 MrProb wrote:
lol 1 banshee win u the game ??
its been like this for 18 months, cloak banshees are good.


Cloaked units are pretty good you mean. Except against Terran but that's just how scans work.


Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 19:37 MuseMike wrote:
On January 10 2012 19:36 Azzur wrote:
Lol, why don't MC just go 1-gate FE into 3-gate robo

Such a safe and solid build against everything...

You can't 3 gate robo every game.


Why? It's not that exploitable, just like a 1rax expand isn't that exploitable. If you're not going to do that you can at least confirm the expand - when MC does his zlot/stalker poke you can run up to confirm the CC has landed at least and keep the stalker alive. MC was blindly going for the 4gate, his own fault. Anyway, I can easily see Leenock beating Supernova and MC beating fOrGG which would make a Supernova MC rematch to decide who advances.


There's this thing called economy and it's kinda important.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
iamke55
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
United States2806 Posts
January 10 2012 10:45 GMT
#1905
On January 10 2012 19:38 Azzur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 19:37 MuseMike wrote:
On January 10 2012 19:36 Azzur wrote:
Lol, why don't MC just go 1-gate FE into 3-gate robo

Such a safe and solid build against everything...

You can't 3 gate robo every game.

Oz goes 3-gate robo almost every game.


Here's a replay where Oz does the same build MC just did: http://www.sc2rep.com/replays/download?id=16810
During practice session, I discovered very good build against zerg. -Bisu[Shield]
Jigsetcza
Profile Joined August 2010
United States118 Posts
January 10 2012 10:46 GMT
#1906
On January 10 2012 19:44 GreyKnight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 19:42 darkscream wrote:
the MC fanboi tears are so delicious

T'was said by LiquidTyler once, MC is risky and gimmicky, and that risky play will come back to bite him..

... but since he's walking around with Take's money in his pocket, I can't imagine he minds too much.


he wasn't playing risky of gimmicky at all.


At what part was he gimmicky? What I see is an uninformed player echoing what he just heard.
darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
January 10 2012 10:46 GMT
#1907
On January 10 2012 19:44 GreyKnight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 19:42 darkscream wrote:
the MC fanboi tears are so delicious

T'was said by LiquidTyler once, MC is risky and gimmicky, and that risky play will come back to bite him..

... but since he's walking around with Take's money in his pocket, I can't imagine he minds too much.


he wasn't playing risky of gimmicky at all.


um ok

the most fearsome all-in terran can do, that every protoss has nightmares about

countered by one building





skips that building

nope, not risky play at all, making assumptions and cutting corners based on a bunker placement

Oh well, GG ^^
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
January 10 2012 10:46 GMT
#1908
On January 10 2012 19:45 Shock710 wrote:
The only way this group will ever live up to my expectations is if ForGG beats MC (sad face T_T <3 Mc) and then goes on to beat Leenock and make it into the group (hoping supernova to beat leenock, give mc a bit more cerdit if the person he lost too got out of the group)


do we need 2 more terrans x.x?
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 10:46:30
January 10 2012 10:46 GMT
#1909
On January 10 2012 19:43 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 19:43 Hofo wrote:
Why is everyone saying 111 is all-in or cheese? Its not :/

Not cheese, but it's an all in

Not all variations are all-in. In fact most 1-1-1s are very safe.
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Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 10:47:37
January 10 2012 10:46 GMT
#1910
On January 10 2012 19:40 TheDwf wrote:
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On January 10 2012 19:38 WigglingSquid wrote:
Terran early game was always perplexing me about cloaking and detection, and this is a good example of my reasons. It makes for very boring BO losses against every race which needs tech to detect... every one but Terran.

You know there are BO losses to Cloak Banshees even in TvT, right?


Yeah.... .

You know Protoss can get up a Robo with DT's around the same cost of cloaked banshees?

T - Fact-SP-Techlab-Cloak 550 minerals 425 gas

P - Twilight-Robo-Darkshrine 450 minerals 450 gas

Yes Terran has Scan, but if you hit just after a MULE'ing....


P generally should go robo unless he is absolutely 100% no banshees can be coming
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
Hofo
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16 Posts
January 10 2012 10:46 GMT
#1911
On January 10 2012 19:46 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 19:43 Seeker wrote:
On January 10 2012 19:43 Hofo wrote:
Why is everyone saying 111 is all-in or cheese? Its not :/

Not cheese, but it's an all in

Not all variations are all-in. In fact most 1-1-1s are very safe.


This
soulist
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States932 Posts
January 10 2012 10:46 GMT
#1912
On January 10 2012 19:40 CortoMontez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 19:38 Nocteo wrote:
On January 10 2012 19:37 CortoMontez wrote:
How exactly can you know what a terran is doing... they are unscoutable!


I heard observers do quite a good job scouting.

So blind robo every game? There is a reason that so many people have thought that observers should be build from the cyber instead of robo.


I dont get what the big deal is. In bw protoss had to build an observetory first before building a obsever from robotics. And in pvt in bw protoss couldnt move from its base until it had an observer to clear out spider mines.
Evil Geniuses<3
Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
January 10 2012 10:47 GMT
#1913
On January 10 2012 19:46 Sc2Null wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 19:45 Shock710 wrote:
The only way this group will ever live up to my expectations is if ForGG beats MC (sad face T_T <3 Mc) and then goes on to beat Leenock and make it into the group (hoping supernova to beat leenock, give mc a bit more cerdit if the person he lost too got out of the group)


do we need 2 more terrans x.x?


yes, yes we do.
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Wheres the counter?"
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
January 10 2012 10:47 GMT
#1914
On January 10 2012 19:44 Jigsetcza wrote:
Wow, can we just talk about the games and not your whines about balance? I wish tl would make a forum rule that gets you banned for whining.


Balance whine is supposed to be banned from LR threads. But no one reads that when the post it at the top anyways.

I'm spoiled from the Proleague LR threads. No balance whine there.
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 10:47:48
January 10 2012 10:47 GMT
#1915
On January 10 2012 19:46 Sc2Null wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 19:45 Shock710 wrote:
The only way this group will ever live up to my expectations is if ForGG beats MC (sad face T_T <3 Mc) and then goes on to beat Leenock and make it into the group (hoping supernova to beat leenock, give mc a bit more cerdit if the person he lost too got out of the group)


do we need 2 more terrans x.x?


But there not just any other terrans, look at it this way one of them is ForGG, the second supernova has had it through so many times, u kinda expect him to be there
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
keioh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France1099 Posts
January 10 2012 10:47 GMT
#1916
On January 10 2012 19:43 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
Oh shit!!! ForGG lose 2 times to LeeNock

That wasn't what I expect...I thought he is Flash sidekick ...

Did he play bad? Or close game?


Leenock had key moves in the first game, while ForGG didn't make game changing decision. Second game, ForGG tried a timing push that was completely unsuccessful against the opening of Leenock (+1 ling armor, 3 hatch late tech) and he got badly raped after.

So to sum up : a first really good slow and macro game, and a one-sided rape.
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CrappyHippo
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada275 Posts
January 10 2012 10:47 GMT
#1917
On January 10 2012 19:41 CortoMontez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 19:41 CrappyHippo wrote:
I don't understand why MC doesn't build robo. We all know SupverNoVa is the king of banshees. He gets banshee every game, and MC doesn't know this?

Supernova is the inca of terran?

I mean yeah, nice analogy.

Everlasting Starcraft
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
January 10 2012 10:47 GMT
#1918
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jkang
Profile Joined May 2011
United States404 Posts
January 10 2012 10:47 GMT
#1919
If MC and SuperNoVa were to somehow meet again, do they start with the 2:1 score or is it a new Bo3?
ThaSlayer
Profile Joined March 2011
707 Posts
January 10 2012 10:48 GMT
#1920
On January 10 2012 19:47 jkang wrote:
If MC and SuperNoVa were to somehow meet again, do they start with the 2:1 score or is it a new Bo3?

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