• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 21:16
CET 03:16
KST 11:16
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT18Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book16Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0224LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker16
StarCraft 2
General
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up SpeCial on The Tasteless Podcast
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Team League Season 10
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth
Brood War
General
TvZ is the most complete match up BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Ladder maps - how we can make blizz update them? Gypsy to Korea Brood War inspired Terran vs Zerg cinematic – feed
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile ZeroSpace Megathread Diablo 2 thread Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Search For Meaning in Vi…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2267 users

[IPL TAC] Quantic IM vs. Mousesports Winners Final - Page 15

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 13 14 15 16 Next All
Share_The_Land
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada152 Posts
December 20 2011 03:33 GMT
#281
On December 20 2011 12:31 Olinimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 12:27 00Visor wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:22 Olinimm wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:20 NipponBanzai wrote:
Losing to b-teamers... Come on Mouz! What happened?

Yeah...whole team losing to Yoda and True is simply quite underwhelming :/.

How much more do we have to see from Korean B-Teamers to acknowledge that losing to them is not underwhelming/emberassing?

These are Koreans on pro teams.
Code B players beat Code A/S regularly in various events.

It's not just because they're Code B. Considering they just beat Slayers 5-4, losing to just Yoda and True, with QIM not fielding a single big gun, IS underwhelming,


Now there's a point I can stand behind yeah I was pretty surprised to see True dominate Mouz like that.
"Turns out he's a former Counterstrike pro and grabs his ak!" - Tasteless
ratzp0li
Profile Joined December 2011
United States340 Posts
December 20 2011 03:33 GMT
#282
Turns out all QIM needed was Yoda and True....

lol@ the people that voted for mouz
NipponBanzai
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada518 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 03:35:56
December 20 2011 03:35 GMT
#283
On December 20 2011 12:31 Share_The_Land wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 12:27 00Visor wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:22 Olinimm wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:20 NipponBanzai wrote:
Losing to b-teamers... Come on Mouz! What happened?

Yeah...whole team losing to Yoda and True is simply quite underwhelming :/.

How much more do we have to see from Korean B-Teamers to acknowledge that losing to them is not underwhelming/emberassing?

These are Koreans on pro teams.
Code B players beat Code A/S regularly in various events.


Couldn't have put it much better myself. Code B does not mean bad by any means, if you look at the Korean weekly tournament you will be surprised.


The weeklys are great but lets be honest, Apocalypse and true can't even qualify for code A and Yoda did very poorly in Code A and then dropped out. It's pretty bad. Apparently GSL > weekly tournaments.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 03:36:11
December 20 2011 03:35 GMT
#284
As supportive I am of the non-korean teams, QIM vs SlayerS would just be an epic final. The sheer number of amazing players on both teams is staggering. I would love to see the two in the Grand Final.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
December 20 2011 03:36 GMT
#285
On December 20 2011 12:30 aintz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 12:27 00Visor wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:22 Olinimm wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:20 NipponBanzai wrote:
Losing to b-teamers... Come on Mouz! What happened?

Yeah...whole team losing to Yoda and True is simply quite underwhelming :/.

How much more do we have to see from Korean B-Teamers to acknowledge that losing to them is not underwhelming/emberassing?

These are Koreans on pro teams.
Code B players beat Code A/S regularly in various events.


they dont but ok


Yes they do.

RageCommodore
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany912 Posts
December 20 2011 03:38 GMT
#286
On December 20 2011 12:27 00Visor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 12:22 Olinimm wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:20 NipponBanzai wrote:
Losing to b-teamers... Come on Mouz! What happened?

Yeah...whole team losing to Yoda and True is simply quite underwhelming :/.

How much more do we have to see from Korean B-Teamers to acknowledge that losing to them is not underwhelming/emberassing?

These are Koreans on pro teams.
Code B players beat Code A/S regularly in various events.


Yeah, but they are not the best. They are very, VERY good, yes, but not the biggest guns (otherwise they would be in the A-Team, obviously). It's like IM didn't even bother to field their strong players, knowing that their B-Teamers were enough to dismantle the strongest foreign team at the moment. So technically, their best players weren't able to beat IM's backup guys (even if their backup guys are incredibly strong). If we go back to saying "well, it's the Koreans who beat them" we'll have BW all over again in a year or so.
BW: sGs.sTaRfaLL SC2: MarojiN | fan of: Darkforce, DBS, Last, Mvp, BoguS/InnoVatioN | Executer vs Choosy on Gladiator - Never forget T-T
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
December 20 2011 03:41 GMT
#287
On December 20 2011 12:31 Olinimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 12:27 00Visor wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:22 Olinimm wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:20 NipponBanzai wrote:
Losing to b-teamers... Come on Mouz! What happened?

Yeah...whole team losing to Yoda and True is simply quite underwhelming :/.

How much more do we have to see from Korean B-Teamers to acknowledge that losing to them is not underwhelming/emberassing?

These are Koreans on pro teams.
Code B players beat Code A/S regularly in various events.

It's not just because they're Code B. Considering Mouz just beat Slayers 5-4, losing to just Yoda and True, with QIM not fielding a single big gun, IS underwhelming,

Mouz beating Slayers was a big upset. You can't set that as a standard.
baoluvboa
Profile Joined December 2010
743 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 03:42:13
December 20 2011 03:41 GMT
#288
On December 20 2011 12:41 00Visor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 12:31 Olinimm wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:27 00Visor wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:22 Olinimm wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:20 NipponBanzai wrote:
Losing to b-teamers... Come on Mouz! What happened?

Yeah...whole team losing to Yoda and True is simply quite underwhelming :/.

How much more do we have to see from Korean B-Teamers to acknowledge that losing to them is not underwhelming/emberassing?

These are Koreans on pro teams.
Code B players beat Code A/S regularly in various events.

It's not just because they're Code B. Considering Mouz just beat Slayers 5-4, losing to just Yoda and True, with QIM not fielding a single big gun, IS underwhelming,

Mouz beating Slayers was a big upset. You can't set that as a standard.


I might be incorrect but I believe slayers, especially their terrans, were all strategizing for MMA's final (and MVP's match)
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
December 20 2011 03:50 GMT
#289
On December 20 2011 12:38 RageCommodore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 12:27 00Visor wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:22 Olinimm wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:20 NipponBanzai wrote:
Losing to b-teamers... Come on Mouz! What happened?

Yeah...whole team losing to Yoda and True is simply quite underwhelming :/.

How much more do we have to see from Korean B-Teamers to acknowledge that losing to them is not underwhelming/emberassing?

These are Koreans on pro teams.
Code B players beat Code A/S regularly in various events.


Yeah, but they are not the best. They are very, VERY good, yes, but not the biggest guns (otherwise they would be in the A-Team, obviously). It's like IM didn't even bother to field their strong players, knowing that their B-Teamers were enough to dismantle the strongest foreign team at the moment. So technically, their best players weren't able to beat IM's backup guys (even if their backup guys are incredibly strong). If we go back to saying "well, it's the Koreans who beat them" we'll have BW all over again in a year or so.


We just saw Mouz beat Slayers some days ago. So Koreans can't just field their B-Teamers to win 100%.
And I'm totally not saying that "well thats a Korean" is an excuse for losing, mouz are able to beat these players (Yoda, true), but losing is not "embarassing" as some are stating.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 04:25:29
December 20 2011 04:25 GMT
#290
On December 20 2011 12:33 McFeser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 12:30 aintz wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:27 00Visor wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:22 Olinimm wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:20 NipponBanzai wrote:
Losing to b-teamers... Come on Mouz! What happened?

Yeah...whole team losing to Yoda and True is simply quite underwhelming :/.

How much more do we have to see from Korean B-Teamers to acknowledge that losing to them is not underwhelming/emberassing?

These are Koreans on pro teams.
Code B players beat Code A/S regularly in various events.


they dont but ok

What a horrible post. Look at who qualified for HSC4. Sound? Heard of him? He beat Jjajki and several Code S players.

Back to topic, if SlayerS meets Mouz again do they have to win two Bo9s? And if so, does the old score carry over?
Edit: I was wrong. He didn't beat Jjajki, but he did beat Gumiho, asd, Lucky.


good one you win.

its like saying yugioh belong in code s just because he made it once
MayorITC
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Korea (South)798 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 09:25:03
December 20 2011 09:24 GMT
#291
On December 20 2011 12:33 McFeser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 12:30 aintz wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:27 00Visor wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:22 Olinimm wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:20 NipponBanzai wrote:
Losing to b-teamers... Come on Mouz! What happened?

Yeah...whole team losing to Yoda and True is simply quite underwhelming :/.

How much more do we have to see from Korean B-Teamers to acknowledge that losing to them is not underwhelming/emberassing?

These are Koreans on pro teams.
Code B players beat Code A/S regularly in various events.


they dont but ok

What a horrible post. Look at who qualified for HSC4. Sound? Heard of him? He beat Jjajki and several Code S players.

Back to topic, if SlayerS meets Mouz again do they have to win two Bo9s? And if so, does the old score carry over?
Edit: I was wrong. He didn't beat Jjajki, but he did beat Gumiho, asd, Lucky.


And how many Code B players lost to Code A/S players and failed to qualify for HSC4? I don't want to argue over semantics, but saying Code B players beat Code A/S players "regularly" is quite a stretch. It happens, but it's definitely not the norm.

Just like how foreigners can beat Code S players, but it's not the norm.
Top foreigners can lose to Code B players, but it's not the norm.

People need to stop citing one event as the standard and focus on the bigger picture.
ratzp0li
Profile Joined December 2011
United States340 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 09:39:44
December 20 2011 09:31 GMT
#292
ryung's tribute to kim jung il <3

edit: shit wrong thread
aviator116
Profile Joined November 2011
United States820 Posts
December 20 2011 09:41 GMT
#293
is slayers gonna take the next few series seriously? or are they just going to send out B-teamers?
thats the real question...
Bogus ST_Life IMMVP
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
December 20 2011 10:12 GMT
#294
On December 20 2011 12:33 McFeser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 12:30 aintz wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:27 00Visor wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:22 Olinimm wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:20 NipponBanzai wrote:
Losing to b-teamers... Come on Mouz! What happened?

Yeah...whole team losing to Yoda and True is simply quite underwhelming :/.

How much more do we have to see from Korean B-Teamers to acknowledge that losing to them is not underwhelming/emberassing?

These are Koreans on pro teams.
Code B players beat Code A/S regularly in various events.


they dont but ok

What a horrible post. Look at who qualified for HSC4. Sound? Heard of him? He beat Jjajki and several Code S players.

Back to topic, if SlayerS meets Mouz again do they have to win two Bo9s? And if so, does the old score carry over?
Edit: I was wrong. He didn't beat Jjajki, but he did beat Gumiho, asd, Lucky.

He beat heart, asd, and revival.
Maruprime.
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
December 20 2011 10:12 GMT
#295
Well Done QIM. Hope mouz can get back to overall bracket!!!
Live and Let Die!
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
December 20 2011 10:14 GMT
#296
mouz had no chance against QuanticIncredibleMiracle. :-(
xi Tempest x
Profile Joined July 2011
Scotland340 Posts
December 20 2011 14:01 GMT
#297
Hopefully slayers/mvp will take it seriously and we can have a great final !
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
December 20 2011 14:09 GMT
#298
People shouldn't be that surprised though. Foreigners hardly make it through code A unless they get a seed into code S. Yoda is a solid code A player while true is probably good enough to get there. No embaressment there.
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
December 20 2011 14:41 GMT
#299
On December 20 2011 12:33 Share_The_Land wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 12:31 Olinimm wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:27 00Visor wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:22 Olinimm wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:20 NipponBanzai wrote:
Losing to b-teamers... Come on Mouz! What happened?

Yeah...whole team losing to Yoda and True is simply quite underwhelming :/.

How much more do we have to see from Korean B-Teamers to acknowledge that losing to them is not underwhelming/emberassing?

These are Koreans on pro teams.
Code B players beat Code A/S regularly in various events.

It's not just because they're Code B. Considering they just beat Slayers 5-4, losing to just Yoda and True, with QIM not fielding a single big gun, IS underwhelming,


Now there's a point I can stand behind yeah I was pretty surprised to see True dominate Mouz like that.

Lol? yoda's pretty good.....
Dodge arrows
jianming
Profile Joined November 2011
149 Posts
December 20 2011 17:32 GMT
#300
On December 20 2011 12:33 McFeser wrote:
What a horrible post. Look at who qualified for HSC4. Sound? Heard of him? He beat Jjajki and several Code S players.

Back to topic, if SlayerS meets Mouz again do they have to win two Bo9s? And if so, does the old score carry over?
Edit: I was wrong. He didn't beat Jjajki, but he did beat Gumiho, asd, Lucky.


I'm pretty sure if we get Slayers or colMVP vs Mouz it will just be one bo9, since it would be a loser's bracket match, and both teams are already on a loss.

In the Grand Finals QIM would have two "lives" since they are unbeaten, and the format of the tournament allows you to lose a maximum of two times before you're eliminated.
Prev 1 13 14 15 16 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
HomeStory Cup 28 - Group D
CranKy Ducklings131
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 152
SpeCial 111
Nathanias 77
Ketroc 3
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 797
NaDa 14
Noble 6
Dota 2
monkeys_forever431
NeuroSwarm139
League of Legends
JimRising 344
Reynor30
Counter-Strike
tarik_tv5118
fl0m1799
taco 1028
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox1424
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor124
Other Games
summit1g6395
Day[9].tv767
C9.Mang0424
ViBE153
Maynarde140
ToD108
Trikslyr66
minikerr3
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1069
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 91
• davetesta20
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift4830
• Scarra1423
Other Games
• Day9tv767
Upcoming Events
PiG Sty Festival
6h 44m
Maru vs Bunny
Classic vs SHIN
The PondCast
7h 44m
KCM Race Survival
7h 44m
WardiTV Winter Champion…
9h 44m
OSC
9h 44m
Replay Cast
21h 44m
PiG Sty Festival
1d 6h
Clem vs Percival
Zoun vs Solar
Escore
1d 7h
Epic.LAN
1d 9h
Replay Cast
1d 21h
[ Show More ]
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
herO vs NightMare
Reynor vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
Epic.LAN
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
PiG Sty Festival
3 days
Serral vs YoungYakov
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
5 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-18
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
WardiTV Winter 2026
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: King of Kings
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4 - TS5
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026: China & Korea Invitational
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.