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Share_The_Land
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada152 Posts
December 20 2011 03:33 GMT
#281
On December 20 2011 12:31 Olinimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 12:27 00Visor wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:22 Olinimm wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:20 NipponBanzai wrote:
Losing to b-teamers... Come on Mouz! What happened?

Yeah...whole team losing to Yoda and True is simply quite underwhelming :/.

How much more do we have to see from Korean B-Teamers to acknowledge that losing to them is not underwhelming/emberassing?

These are Koreans on pro teams.
Code B players beat Code A/S regularly in various events.

It's not just because they're Code B. Considering they just beat Slayers 5-4, losing to just Yoda and True, with QIM not fielding a single big gun, IS underwhelming,


Now there's a point I can stand behind yeah I was pretty surprised to see True dominate Mouz like that.
"Turns out he's a former Counterstrike pro and grabs his ak!" - Tasteless
ratzp0li
Profile Joined December 2011
United States340 Posts
December 20 2011 03:33 GMT
#282
Turns out all QIM needed was Yoda and True....

lol@ the people that voted for mouz
NipponBanzai
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada518 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 03:35:56
December 20 2011 03:35 GMT
#283
On December 20 2011 12:31 Share_The_Land wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 12:27 00Visor wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:22 Olinimm wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:20 NipponBanzai wrote:
Losing to b-teamers... Come on Mouz! What happened?

Yeah...whole team losing to Yoda and True is simply quite underwhelming :/.

How much more do we have to see from Korean B-Teamers to acknowledge that losing to them is not underwhelming/emberassing?

These are Koreans on pro teams.
Code B players beat Code A/S regularly in various events.


Couldn't have put it much better myself. Code B does not mean bad by any means, if you look at the Korean weekly tournament you will be surprised.


The weeklys are great but lets be honest, Apocalypse and true can't even qualify for code A and Yoda did very poorly in Code A and then dropped out. It's pretty bad. Apparently GSL > weekly tournaments.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 03:36:11
December 20 2011 03:35 GMT
#284
As supportive I am of the non-korean teams, QIM vs SlayerS would just be an epic final. The sheer number of amazing players on both teams is staggering. I would love to see the two in the Grand Final.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
December 20 2011 03:36 GMT
#285
On December 20 2011 12:30 aintz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 12:27 00Visor wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:22 Olinimm wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:20 NipponBanzai wrote:
Losing to b-teamers... Come on Mouz! What happened?

Yeah...whole team losing to Yoda and True is simply quite underwhelming :/.

How much more do we have to see from Korean B-Teamers to acknowledge that losing to them is not underwhelming/emberassing?

These are Koreans on pro teams.
Code B players beat Code A/S regularly in various events.


they dont but ok


Yes they do.

RageCommodore
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany912 Posts
December 20 2011 03:38 GMT
#286
On December 20 2011 12:27 00Visor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 12:22 Olinimm wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:20 NipponBanzai wrote:
Losing to b-teamers... Come on Mouz! What happened?

Yeah...whole team losing to Yoda and True is simply quite underwhelming :/.

How much more do we have to see from Korean B-Teamers to acknowledge that losing to them is not underwhelming/emberassing?

These are Koreans on pro teams.
Code B players beat Code A/S regularly in various events.


Yeah, but they are not the best. They are very, VERY good, yes, but not the biggest guns (otherwise they would be in the A-Team, obviously). It's like IM didn't even bother to field their strong players, knowing that their B-Teamers were enough to dismantle the strongest foreign team at the moment. So technically, their best players weren't able to beat IM's backup guys (even if their backup guys are incredibly strong). If we go back to saying "well, it's the Koreans who beat them" we'll have BW all over again in a year or so.
BW: sGs.sTaRfaLL SC2: MarojiN | fan of: Darkforce, DBS, Last, Mvp, BoguS/InnoVatioN | Executer vs Choosy on Gladiator - Never forget T-T
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
December 20 2011 03:41 GMT
#287
On December 20 2011 12:31 Olinimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 12:27 00Visor wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:22 Olinimm wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:20 NipponBanzai wrote:
Losing to b-teamers... Come on Mouz! What happened?

Yeah...whole team losing to Yoda and True is simply quite underwhelming :/.

How much more do we have to see from Korean B-Teamers to acknowledge that losing to them is not underwhelming/emberassing?

These are Koreans on pro teams.
Code B players beat Code A/S regularly in various events.

It's not just because they're Code B. Considering Mouz just beat Slayers 5-4, losing to just Yoda and True, with QIM not fielding a single big gun, IS underwhelming,

Mouz beating Slayers was a big upset. You can't set that as a standard.
baoluvboa
Profile Joined December 2010
743 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 03:42:13
December 20 2011 03:41 GMT
#288
On December 20 2011 12:41 00Visor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 12:31 Olinimm wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:27 00Visor wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:22 Olinimm wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:20 NipponBanzai wrote:
Losing to b-teamers... Come on Mouz! What happened?

Yeah...whole team losing to Yoda and True is simply quite underwhelming :/.

How much more do we have to see from Korean B-Teamers to acknowledge that losing to them is not underwhelming/emberassing?

These are Koreans on pro teams.
Code B players beat Code A/S regularly in various events.

It's not just because they're Code B. Considering Mouz just beat Slayers 5-4, losing to just Yoda and True, with QIM not fielding a single big gun, IS underwhelming,

Mouz beating Slayers was a big upset. You can't set that as a standard.


I might be incorrect but I believe slayers, especially their terrans, were all strategizing for MMA's final (and MVP's match)
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
December 20 2011 03:50 GMT
#289
On December 20 2011 12:38 RageCommodore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 12:27 00Visor wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:22 Olinimm wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:20 NipponBanzai wrote:
Losing to b-teamers... Come on Mouz! What happened?

Yeah...whole team losing to Yoda and True is simply quite underwhelming :/.

How much more do we have to see from Korean B-Teamers to acknowledge that losing to them is not underwhelming/emberassing?

These are Koreans on pro teams.
Code B players beat Code A/S regularly in various events.


Yeah, but they are not the best. They are very, VERY good, yes, but not the biggest guns (otherwise they would be in the A-Team, obviously). It's like IM didn't even bother to field their strong players, knowing that their B-Teamers were enough to dismantle the strongest foreign team at the moment. So technically, their best players weren't able to beat IM's backup guys (even if their backup guys are incredibly strong). If we go back to saying "well, it's the Koreans who beat them" we'll have BW all over again in a year or so.


We just saw Mouz beat Slayers some days ago. So Koreans can't just field their B-Teamers to win 100%.
And I'm totally not saying that "well thats a Korean" is an excuse for losing, mouz are able to beat these players (Yoda, true), but losing is not "embarassing" as some are stating.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 04:25:29
December 20 2011 04:25 GMT
#290
On December 20 2011 12:33 McFeser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 12:30 aintz wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:27 00Visor wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:22 Olinimm wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:20 NipponBanzai wrote:
Losing to b-teamers... Come on Mouz! What happened?

Yeah...whole team losing to Yoda and True is simply quite underwhelming :/.

How much more do we have to see from Korean B-Teamers to acknowledge that losing to them is not underwhelming/emberassing?

These are Koreans on pro teams.
Code B players beat Code A/S regularly in various events.


they dont but ok

What a horrible post. Look at who qualified for HSC4. Sound? Heard of him? He beat Jjajki and several Code S players.

Back to topic, if SlayerS meets Mouz again do they have to win two Bo9s? And if so, does the old score carry over?
Edit: I was wrong. He didn't beat Jjajki, but he did beat Gumiho, asd, Lucky.


good one you win.

its like saying yugioh belong in code s just because he made it once
MayorITC
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Korea (South)798 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 09:25:03
December 20 2011 09:24 GMT
#291
On December 20 2011 12:33 McFeser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 12:30 aintz wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:27 00Visor wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:22 Olinimm wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:20 NipponBanzai wrote:
Losing to b-teamers... Come on Mouz! What happened?

Yeah...whole team losing to Yoda and True is simply quite underwhelming :/.

How much more do we have to see from Korean B-Teamers to acknowledge that losing to them is not underwhelming/emberassing?

These are Koreans on pro teams.
Code B players beat Code A/S regularly in various events.


they dont but ok

What a horrible post. Look at who qualified for HSC4. Sound? Heard of him? He beat Jjajki and several Code S players.

Back to topic, if SlayerS meets Mouz again do they have to win two Bo9s? And if so, does the old score carry over?
Edit: I was wrong. He didn't beat Jjajki, but he did beat Gumiho, asd, Lucky.


And how many Code B players lost to Code A/S players and failed to qualify for HSC4? I don't want to argue over semantics, but saying Code B players beat Code A/S players "regularly" is quite a stretch. It happens, but it's definitely not the norm.

Just like how foreigners can beat Code S players, but it's not the norm.
Top foreigners can lose to Code B players, but it's not the norm.

People need to stop citing one event as the standard and focus on the bigger picture.
ratzp0li
Profile Joined December 2011
United States340 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 09:39:44
December 20 2011 09:31 GMT
#292
ryung's tribute to kim jung il <3

edit: shit wrong thread
aviator116
Profile Joined November 2011
United States820 Posts
December 20 2011 09:41 GMT
#293
is slayers gonna take the next few series seriously? or are they just going to send out B-teamers?
thats the real question...
Bogus ST_Life IMMVP
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
December 20 2011 10:12 GMT
#294
On December 20 2011 12:33 McFeser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 12:30 aintz wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:27 00Visor wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:22 Olinimm wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:20 NipponBanzai wrote:
Losing to b-teamers... Come on Mouz! What happened?

Yeah...whole team losing to Yoda and True is simply quite underwhelming :/.

How much more do we have to see from Korean B-Teamers to acknowledge that losing to them is not underwhelming/emberassing?

These are Koreans on pro teams.
Code B players beat Code A/S regularly in various events.


they dont but ok

What a horrible post. Look at who qualified for HSC4. Sound? Heard of him? He beat Jjajki and several Code S players.

Back to topic, if SlayerS meets Mouz again do they have to win two Bo9s? And if so, does the old score carry over?
Edit: I was wrong. He didn't beat Jjajki, but he did beat Gumiho, asd, Lucky.

He beat heart, asd, and revival.
Maruprime.
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
December 20 2011 10:12 GMT
#295
Well Done QIM. Hope mouz can get back to overall bracket!!!
Live and Let Die!
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
December 20 2011 10:14 GMT
#296
mouz had no chance against QuanticIncredibleMiracle. :-(
xi Tempest x
Profile Joined July 2011
Scotland340 Posts
December 20 2011 14:01 GMT
#297
Hopefully slayers/mvp will take it seriously and we can have a great final !
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
December 20 2011 14:09 GMT
#298
People shouldn't be that surprised though. Foreigners hardly make it through code A unless they get a seed into code S. Yoda is a solid code A player while true is probably good enough to get there. No embaressment there.
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
December 20 2011 14:41 GMT
#299
On December 20 2011 12:33 Share_The_Land wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2011 12:31 Olinimm wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:27 00Visor wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:22 Olinimm wrote:
On December 20 2011 12:20 NipponBanzai wrote:
Losing to b-teamers... Come on Mouz! What happened?

Yeah...whole team losing to Yoda and True is simply quite underwhelming :/.

How much more do we have to see from Korean B-Teamers to acknowledge that losing to them is not underwhelming/emberassing?

These are Koreans on pro teams.
Code B players beat Code A/S regularly in various events.

It's not just because they're Code B. Considering they just beat Slayers 5-4, losing to just Yoda and True, with QIM not fielding a single big gun, IS underwhelming,


Now there's a point I can stand behind yeah I was pretty surprised to see True dominate Mouz like that.

Lol? yoda's pretty good.....
Dodge arrows
jianming
Profile Joined November 2011
149 Posts
December 20 2011 17:32 GMT
#300
On December 20 2011 12:33 McFeser wrote:
What a horrible post. Look at who qualified for HSC4. Sound? Heard of him? He beat Jjajki and several Code S players.

Back to topic, if SlayerS meets Mouz again do they have to win two Bo9s? And if so, does the old score carry over?
Edit: I was wrong. He didn't beat Jjajki, but he did beat Gumiho, asd, Lucky.


I'm pretty sure if we get Slayers or colMVP vs Mouz it will just be one bo9, since it would be a loser's bracket match, and both teams are already on a loss.

In the Grand Finals QIM would have two "lives" since they are unbeaten, and the format of the tournament allows you to lose a maximum of two times before you're eliminated.
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