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Please stop the tournament comparison discussion. Especially regarding players their runs (Stephano seems to be the current topic). Stay on topic and stick to the games. Consequences will be met out to further derailment.
In addition leave the usual out of this topic:
-Balance complaints
-Map complaints
-Stream complaints
-Caster/player bashing
-Off topic discussions
Logically continue this list with things that are obviously frowned
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On November 26 2011 04:23 Zzoram wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 04:20 Packawana wrote:
And that's it, all the Koreans into the Ro16.
I'm putting bets right now on DRG or PuMa to take the tourney. HerO less so only because there are a lot of good zergs left over. Writing off all the known Koreans was an obvious mistake. The known Koreans have been playing very strong and haven't lost any series to non-Koreans.Stephano, Thorzain, SeleCT, Sen, elfi and Idra are all out despite being thought to be potential winners.
Seiplo vs. Genius?
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On November 26 2011 04:25 sitromit wrote:
Is it just group matches today, or will they play the first round of the brackets later in the day?
Only groups.
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On November 26 2011 04:27 BlackGosu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 04:26 Flonomenalz wrote:On November 26 2011 04:23 Zzoram wrote:On November 26 2011 04:20 Packawana wrote:
And that's it, all the Koreans into the Ro16.
I'm putting bets right now on DRG or PuMa to take the tourney. HerO less so only because there are a lot of good zergs left over. Writing off all the known Koreans was an obvious mistake. The known Koreans have been playing very strong and haven't lost any series to non-Koreans. Stephano, Thorzain, SeleCT, Sen, elfi and Idra are all out despite being thought to be potential winners. Lol come on, nobody actually thought Thorzain or elfi stood a chance. ??? thorzain was the best euro at one point
Best foreigner terran still. (If I'm not forgetting someone obvious.)
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On November 26 2011 04:28 Kevan wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 04:27 BlackGosu wrote:On November 26 2011 04:26 Flonomenalz wrote:On November 26 2011 04:23 Zzoram wrote:On November 26 2011 04:20 Packawana wrote:
And that's it, all the Koreans into the Ro16.
I'm putting bets right now on DRG or PuMa to take the tourney. HerO less so only because there are a lot of good zergs left over. Writing off all the known Koreans was an obvious mistake. The known Koreans have been playing very strong and haven't lost any series to non-Koreans. Stephano, Thorzain, SeleCT, Sen, elfi and Idra are all out despite being thought to be potential winners. Lol come on, nobody actually thought Thorzain or elfi stood a chance. ??? thorzain was the best euro at one point Best foreigner terran still. (If I'm not forgetting someone obvious.)
I don't think you are.
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On November 26 2011 04:20 R!! wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 04:15 WaSa wrote:On November 26 2011 04:14 NeilSC wrote:
Terran slumping in past few events, are they the new P?? lawl, they need to "slump" 10x worse than this in several months then you can...uhm..."start"  When was the last time a foreign terran won anything?I know what I think when I see Naniwa winning stuff while Thorzain doesn't get even close, taking into consideration the massive difference between them in wc3.
I'd say Naniwa is winning more than Thorzain since he is way better at this time.
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On November 26 2011 04:28 Kevan wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 04:27 BlackGosu wrote:On November 26 2011 04:26 Flonomenalz wrote:On November 26 2011 04:23 Zzoram wrote:On November 26 2011 04:20 Packawana wrote:
And that's it, all the Koreans into the Ro16.
I'm putting bets right now on DRG or PuMa to take the tourney. HerO less so only because there are a lot of good zergs left over. Writing off all the known Koreans was an obvious mistake. The known Koreans have been playing very strong and haven't lost any series to non-Koreans. Stephano, Thorzain, SeleCT, Sen, elfi and Idra are all out despite being thought to be potential winners. Lol come on, nobody actually thought Thorzain or elfi stood a chance. ??? thorzain was the best euro at one point Best foreigner terran still. (If I'm not forgetting someone obvious.)
DeMuslim would give Thorzain a run for his money. Should be a fun match to see when NASL comes along.
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On November 26 2011 04:27 Serinox wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 04:23 Zzoram wrote:On November 26 2011 04:20 Packawana wrote:
And that's it, all the Koreans into the Ro16.
I'm putting bets right now on DRG or PuMa to take the tourney. HerO less so only because there are a lot of good zergs left over. Writing off all the known Koreans was an obvious mistake. The known Koreans have been playing very strong and haven't lost any series to non-Koreans.Stephano, Thorzain, SeleCT, Sen, elfi and Idra are all out despite being thought to be potential winners. Seiplo vs. Genius?
Ya except that.
Anyways, I still think DRG is the favorite to win this thing or at least get to the finals.
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i want this music from day9 stream.... where can i find it lol.
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On November 26 2011 04:28 Kevan wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 04:27 BlackGosu wrote:On November 26 2011 04:26 Flonomenalz wrote:On November 26 2011 04:23 Zzoram wrote:On November 26 2011 04:20 Packawana wrote:
And that's it, all the Koreans into the Ro16.
I'm putting bets right now on DRG or PuMa to take the tourney. HerO less so only because there are a lot of good zergs left over. Writing off all the known Koreans was an obvious mistake. The known Koreans have been playing very strong and haven't lost any series to non-Koreans. Stephano, Thorzain, SeleCT, Sen, elfi and Idra are all out despite being thought to be potential winners. Lol come on, nobody actually thought Thorzain or elfi stood a chance. ??? thorzain was the best euro at one point Best foreigner terran still. (If I'm not forgetting someone obvious.)
Sjow/SelecT are pretty obvious contenders. Puma might also count as a foreigner given a few more months outside Korea if Select does.
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On November 26 2011 04:20 R!! wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 04:15 WaSa wrote:On November 26 2011 04:14 NeilSC wrote:
Terran slumping in past few events, are they the new P?? lawl, they need to "slump" 10x worse than this in several months then you can...uhm..."start" When was the last time a foreign terran won anything?I know what I think when I see Naniwa winning stuff while Thorzain doesn't get even close, taking into consideration the massive difference between them in wc3.
When was the last time there has been a decent foreign terran? That's right, the answer is Thorzain and he won TSL3.
About the rest... I'd argue that there are at least 20 Korean Terrans far above anything the foreign scene has to offer. The Terran race itself is not a problem, AT ALL.
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On November 26 2011 04:25 McFeser wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 04:22 AxionSteel wrote:On November 26 2011 04:20 R!! wrote:On November 26 2011 04:15 WaSa wrote:On November 26 2011 04:14 NeilSC wrote:
Terran slumping in past few events, are they the new P?? lawl, they need to "slump" 10x worse than this in several months then you can...uhm..."start" When was the last time a foreign terran won anything?I know what I think when I see Naniwa winning stuff while Thorzain doesn't get even close, taking into consideration the massive difference between them in wc3. The last one to win anything was ThorZaiN himself in TSL3. Select won the American Invational and Sjow won that random tournament in Korea - but I don't know if that counts.
Yeah i forgot the American invite, guess that counts. The IESF tourney had a reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally weak player pool though.
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On November 26 2011 04:28 Kevan wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 04:27 BlackGosu wrote:On November 26 2011 04:26 Flonomenalz wrote:On November 26 2011 04:23 Zzoram wrote:On November 26 2011 04:20 Packawana wrote:
And that's it, all the Koreans into the Ro16.
I'm putting bets right now on DRG or PuMa to take the tourney. HerO less so only because there are a lot of good zergs left over. Writing off all the known Koreans was an obvious mistake. The known Koreans have been playing very strong and haven't lost any series to non-Koreans. Stephano, Thorzain, SeleCT, Sen, elfi and Idra are all out despite being thought to be potential winners. Lol come on, nobody actually thought Thorzain or elfi stood a chance. ??? thorzain was the best euro at one point Best foreigner terran still. (If I'm not forgetting someone obvious.)
Best terran? Kas maybe.
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On November 26 2011 04:28 Kevan wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 04:27 BlackGosu wrote:On November 26 2011 04:26 Flonomenalz wrote:On November 26 2011 04:23 Zzoram wrote:On November 26 2011 04:20 Packawana wrote:
And that's it, all the Koreans into the Ro16.
I'm putting bets right now on DRG or PuMa to take the tourney. HerO less so only because there are a lot of good zergs left over. Writing off all the known Koreans was an obvious mistake. The known Koreans have been playing very strong and haven't lost any series to non-Koreans. Stephano, Thorzain, SeleCT, Sen, elfi and Idra are all out despite being thought to be potential winners. Lol come on, nobody actually thought Thorzain or elfi stood a chance. ??? thorzain was the best euro at one point Best foreigner terran still. (If I'm not forgetting someone obvious.)
Kas is up there. Team Empire got some fierce terrans. Other that that? Select. DeMuslim is not.
Edit: Maybe Juan/Major/whatnot, but he's a bit so-so.
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On November 26 2011 04:28 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 04:28 Kevan wrote:On November 26 2011 04:27 BlackGosu wrote:On November 26 2011 04:26 Flonomenalz wrote:On November 26 2011 04:23 Zzoram wrote:On November 26 2011 04:20 Packawana wrote:
And that's it, all the Koreans into the Ro16.
I'm putting bets right now on DRG or PuMa to take the tourney. HerO less so only because there are a lot of good zergs left over. Writing off all the known Koreans was an obvious mistake. The known Koreans have been playing very strong and haven't lost any series to non-Koreans. Stephano, Thorzain, SeleCT, Sen, elfi and Idra are all out despite being thought to be potential winners. Lol come on, nobody actually thought Thorzain or elfi stood a chance. ??? thorzain was the best euro at one point Best foreigner terran still. (If I'm not forgetting someone obvious.) I don't think you are.
Don´t know, he lost some series to Cloud and Kas recently. It´s really hard to determine top foreign euro terrans, there are so many of them, who are notable but noone is really seems really top-tier-foreigner (execpt maybe T-Zain).
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On November 26 2011 04:28 Kevan wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 04:27 BlackGosu wrote:On November 26 2011 04:26 Flonomenalz wrote:On November 26 2011 04:23 Zzoram wrote:On November 26 2011 04:20 Packawana wrote:
And that's it, all the Koreans into the Ro16.
I'm putting bets right now on DRG or PuMa to take the tourney. HerO less so only because there are a lot of good zergs left over. Writing off all the known Koreans was an obvious mistake. The known Koreans have been playing very strong and haven't lost any series to non-Koreans. Stephano, Thorzain, SeleCT, Sen, elfi and Idra are all out despite being thought to be potential winners. Lol come on, nobody actually thought Thorzain or elfi stood a chance. ??? thorzain was the best euro at one point Best foreigner terran still. (If I'm not forgetting someone obvious.)
At the moment, it really seems to be Kas.
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On November 26 2011 04:29 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 04:28 Kevan wrote:On November 26 2011 04:27 BlackGosu wrote:On November 26 2011 04:26 Flonomenalz wrote:On November 26 2011 04:23 Zzoram wrote:On November 26 2011 04:20 Packawana wrote:
And that's it, all the Koreans into the Ro16.
I'm putting bets right now on DRG or PuMa to take the tourney. HerO less so only because there are a lot of good zergs left over. Writing off all the known Koreans was an obvious mistake. The known Koreans have been playing very strong and haven't lost any series to non-Koreans. Stephano, Thorzain, SeleCT, Sen, elfi and Idra are all out despite being thought to be potential winners. Lol come on, nobody actually thought Thorzain or elfi stood a chance. ??? thorzain was the best euro at one point Best foreigner terran still. (If I'm not forgetting someone obvious.) Sjow/SelecT are pretty obvious contenders. Puma might also count as a foreigner given a few more months outside Korea if Select does.
Puma lives in Korea
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On November 26 2011 04:19 MasterKush wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 04:15 WaSa wrote:On November 26 2011 04:14 NeilSC wrote:
Terran slumping in past few events, are they the new P?? lawl, they need to "slump" 10x worse than this in several months then you can...uhm..."start" It must be fun to climb on board the "Let's Hate Terran" campaign that seems to be in this community. But let's face it, they have been weak since the ghost nerf patch (1.4.2?).
No real upsets this tournament so far, there is just not a huge amount of good terrans, unfortunately. Look at the amount of KR trained Protoss (SaSe, HuK, Naniwa, ToD, HerO, Genius...no fewer), they were expected to come out of their groups honestly. ClouD and SarenS? Not so much.
Puma is the only upper class terran, and he 3-0'd his group pretty easily.
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So, does this tournament have more down time than play time? Every time I tune into a stream, it's at the tail end of a game with the next starting in 1+ hour. -_-
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On November 26 2011 04:25 WaSa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 04:19 MasterKush wrote:On November 26 2011 04:15 WaSa wrote:On November 26 2011 04:14 NeilSC wrote:
Terran slumping in past few events, are they the new P?? lawl, they need to "slump" 10x worse than this in several months then you can...uhm..."start" It must be fun to climb on board the "Let's Hate Terran" campaign that seems to be in this community. But let's face it, they have been weak since the ghost nerf patch (1.4.2?). No? I don't see any weakness - just that the game became more balanced since the Ghost nerf. EMP shoul've never been that strong in the first place. As for foreign terrans not winning anything, well they aren't as good as their korean peers and their pretty far from that korean skill ceiling than their toss/zerg counterparts. As for ladder, I ain't terran so maybe their too weak there so Idk...
Well you need to be Korean to play terran on a high level as its much harder than the other races obviously.
But there are still many korean terrans who seem able to compete for now, we will see in the next months.
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On November 26 2011 04:28 Kevan wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 04:27 BlackGosu wrote:On November 26 2011 04:26 Flonomenalz wrote:On November 26 2011 04:23 Zzoram wrote:On November 26 2011 04:20 Packawana wrote:
And that's it, all the Koreans into the Ro16.
I'm putting bets right now on DRG or PuMa to take the tourney. HerO less so only because there are a lot of good zergs left over. Writing off all the known Koreans was an obvious mistake. The known Koreans have been playing very strong and haven't lost any series to non-Koreans. Stephano, Thorzain, SeleCT, Sen, elfi and Idra are all out despite being thought to be potential winners. Lol come on, nobody actually thought Thorzain or elfi stood a chance. ??? thorzain was the best euro at one point Best foreigner terran still. (If I'm not forgetting someone obvious.)
No..
I think he's in a slight slump and doesn't seem to be practicing that much.
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