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Please stop the tournament comparison discussion. Especially regarding players their runs (Stephano seems to be the current topic). Stay on topic and stick to the games. Consequences will be met out to further derailment.

In addition leave the usual out of this topic:

-Balance complaints
-Map complaints
-Stream complaints
-Caster/player bashing
-Off topic discussions

Logically continue this list with things that are obviously frowned
upon. Enjoy the free and wonderful event with loads of games and coverage!
Akhee
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil811 Posts
November 25 2011 19:21 GMT
#4001
On November 26 2011 04:19 MasterKush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 04:15 WaSa wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:14 NeilSC wrote:
Terran slumping in past few events, are they the new P??


lawl, they need to "slump" 10x worse than this in several months then you can...uhm..."start"


It must be fun to climb on board the "Let's Hate Terran" campaign that seems to be in this community. But let's face it, they have been weak since the ghost nerf patch (1.4.2?).


weak? WEAK?? first lets see if it gets below 55% winrate, then we start discussing it
sToFu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States189 Posts
November 25 2011 19:22 GMT
#4002
On November 26 2011 04:16 skatbone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 04:14 skrotcyk wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:11 sToFu wrote:
IdrA GG timing from Sen...? Oh well.


? if u couldn't understand that that game was over 100 % ur not above silver.

what's the point of watching ur 40 roaches and 10 hydras get absolutely demolished and slaughtered while killing 2 protoss units.


Yea, I have to agree. That game was over as Hero was on 3 base and Sen had lost his third (after having lost and rebuilt his main).


Sorry if I said that negatively; I know the game was over, but the thing is most players don't GG out that early like that - they pull desperation moves and hope for a favorable engagement, but Sen, like Idra, didn't do that. I agree that the outcome would not have changed, but IMO its nice to see a player attempt to come back from a situation like that, even if its destined to fail. (MVP, for example, makes people work very very hard to get a gg from him, even if it looks like he'll lose)
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 19:22:45
November 25 2011 19:22 GMT
#4003
On November 26 2011 04:20 Packawana wrote:
And that's it, all the Koreans into the Ro16.

I'm putting bets right now on DRG or PuMa to take the tourney. HerO less so only because there are a lot of good zergs left over.


Except Select.

Also, Nerchio got this no problem.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
November 25 2011 19:22 GMT
#4004
On November 26 2011 04:19 UBavarice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 04:19 Akhee wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:16 hugman wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:15 Logros wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:14 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Oh, SaSe doesn't need to win a map since he beat Select h2h. Yeah!! \o/

If he loses Daboo is tied as well and wins due to mapscore or h2h. Select is out whatever happens I think.


If Daboo wins 2-0 he has better mapscore than select and sase
If Daboo wins 2-1 he's tied in mapscore with sase and wins on h2h

I think


wanst daboo 0-2? so it would make it 1-2, still out o_o btw he lost so hes 0-3

Yes, this is accurate. Doesn't matter though since SaSe did in fact win


But if SaSe lost to Daboo he would also have been 1-2 and been eliminated
But yes <3 SaSe is through
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
November 25 2011 19:22 GMT
#4005
On November 26 2011 04:20 R!! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 04:15 WaSa wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:14 NeilSC wrote:
Terran slumping in past few events, are they the new P??


lawl, they need to "slump" 10x worse than this in several months then you can...uhm..."start"

When was the last time a foreign terran won anything?I know what I think when I see Naniwa winning stuff while Thorzain doesn't get even close, taking into consideration the massive difference between them in wc3.


The last one to win anything was ThorZaiN himself in TSL3.
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
November 25 2011 19:23 GMT
#4006
On November 26 2011 04:22 TheBanana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 04:20 Packawana wrote:
And that's it, all the Koreans into the Ro16.

I'm putting bets right now on DRG or PuMa to take the tourney. HerO less so only because there are a lot of good zergs left over.


Except Select.

Also, Nerchio got this, no problem.


SeleCT has been infected with Murika, he lost his korean master race StarCraft powers.
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
November 25 2011 19:23 GMT
#4007
On November 26 2011 04:19 MasterKush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 04:15 WaSa wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:14 NeilSC wrote:
Terran slumping in past few events, are they the new P??


lawl, they need to "slump" 10x worse than this in several months then you can...uhm..."start"


It must be fun to climb on board the "Let's Hate Terran" campaign that seems to be in this community. But let's face it, they have been weak since the ghost nerf patch (1.4.2?).


Let's face it, there's a thread specifically designed for this balance whining, and it seems you can't read the top of the thread:

"In addition leave the usual out of this topic:

-Balance complaints"

^See that?
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
November 25 2011 19:23 GMT
#4008
On November 26 2011 04:20 Packawana wrote:
And that's it, all the Koreans into the Ro16.

I'm putting bets right now on DRG or PuMa to take the tourney. HerO less so only because there are a lot of good zergs left over.


Writing off all the known Koreans was an obvious mistake. The known Koreans have been playing very strong and haven't lost any series to non-Koreans.

Stephano, Thorzain, SeleCT, Sen, elfi and Idra are all out despite being thought to be potential winners.
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
November 25 2011 19:24 GMT
#4009
On November 26 2011 04:20 R!! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 04:15 WaSa wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:14 NeilSC wrote:
Terran slumping in past few events, are they the new P??


lawl, they need to "slump" 10x worse than this in several months then you can...uhm..."start"

When was the last time a foreign terran won anything?I know what I think when I see Naniwa winning stuff while Thorzain doesn't get even close, taking into consideration the massive difference between them in wc3.


Foreign terran players win tournaments everyday, it depends on what kind of restrictions you make for the answer.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
November 25 2011 19:24 GMT
#4010
On November 26 2011 04:22 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 04:20 R!! wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:15 WaSa wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:14 NeilSC wrote:
Terran slumping in past few events, are they the new P??


lawl, they need to "slump" 10x worse than this in several months then you can...uhm..."start"

When was the last time a foreign terran won anything?I know what I think when I see Naniwa winning stuff while Thorzain doesn't get even close, taking into consideration the massive difference between them in wc3.


The last one to win anything was ThorZaiN himself in TSL3.


He also won the NASL Semi-open, don´t know if it counts as big tournament. Also Sjow won IESF.
GDbushido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States926 Posts
November 25 2011 19:25 GMT
#4011
On November 26 2011 04:22 sToFu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 04:16 skatbone wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:14 skrotcyk wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:11 sToFu wrote:
IdrA GG timing from Sen...? Oh well.


? if u couldn't understand that that game was over 100 % ur not above silver.

what's the point of watching ur 40 roaches and 10 hydras get absolutely demolished and slaughtered while killing 2 protoss units.


Yea, I have to agree. That game was over as Hero was on 3 base and Sen had lost his third (after having lost and rebuilt his main).


I agree that the outcome would not have changed, but IMO its nice to see a player attempt to come back from a situation like that, even if its destined to fail.
This is a nice idea for GSL or laddering, but when competing in these marathon tournaments sometimes your brain really needs you to just say fuck it.
remember not to think too much and your trip will be numbingly pleasant
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
November 25 2011 19:25 GMT
#4012
Is it just group matches today, or will they play the first round of the brackets later in the day?
WaSa
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden749 Posts
November 25 2011 19:25 GMT
#4013
On November 26 2011 04:19 MasterKush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 04:15 WaSa wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:14 NeilSC wrote:
Terran slumping in past few events, are they the new P??


lawl, they need to "slump" 10x worse than this in several months then you can...uhm..."start"


It must be fun to climb on board the "Let's Hate Terran" campaign that seems to be in this community. But let's face it, they have been weak since the ghost nerf patch (1.4.2?).


No? I don't see any weakness - just that the game became more balanced since the Ghost nerf. EMP shoul've never been that strong in the first place. As for foreign terrans not winning anything, well they aren't as good as their korean peers and their pretty far from that korean skill ceiling than their toss/zerg counterparts.

As for ladder, I ain't terran so maybe their too weak there so Idk...
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
November 25 2011 19:25 GMT
#4014
On November 26 2011 04:22 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 04:20 R!! wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:15 WaSa wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:14 NeilSC wrote:
Terran slumping in past few events, are they the new P??


lawl, they need to "slump" 10x worse than this in several months then you can...uhm..."start"

When was the last time a foreign terran won anything?I know what I think when I see Naniwa winning stuff while Thorzain doesn't get even close, taking into consideration the massive difference between them in wc3.


The last one to win anything was ThorZaiN himself in TSL3.

Select won the American Invational and Sjow won that random tournament in Korea - but I don't know if that counts.
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
November 25 2011 19:26 GMT
#4015
On November 26 2011 04:23 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 04:20 Packawana wrote:
And that's it, all the Koreans into the Ro16.

I'm putting bets right now on DRG or PuMa to take the tourney. HerO less so only because there are a lot of good zergs left over.


Writing off all the known Koreans was an obvious mistake. The known Koreans have been playing very strong and haven't lost any series to non-Koreans.

Stephano, Thorzain, SeleCT, Sen, elfi and Idra are all out despite being thought to be potential winners.

Lol come on, nobody actually thought Thorzain or elfi stood a chance.

I love crazymoving
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
November 25 2011 19:26 GMT
#4016
On November 26 2011 04:23 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 04:20 Packawana wrote:
And that's it, all the Koreans into the Ro16.

I'm putting bets right now on DRG or PuMa to take the tourney. HerO less so only because there are a lot of good zergs left over.


Writing off all the known Koreans was an obvious mistake. The known Koreans have been playing very strong and haven't lost any series to non-Koreans.

Stephano, Thorzain, SeleCT, Sen, elfi and Idra are all out despite being thought to be potential winners.


Well,Koreans was always more dominating than the foreigners .No surprise there.
Play your best
BlackGosu
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1046 Posts
November 25 2011 19:27 GMT
#4017
On November 26 2011 04:26 Flonomenalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 04:23 Zzoram wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:20 Packawana wrote:
And that's it, all the Koreans into the Ro16.

I'm putting bets right now on DRG or PuMa to take the tourney. HerO less so only because there are a lot of good zergs left over.


Writing off all the known Koreans was an obvious mistake. The known Koreans have been playing very strong and haven't lost any series to non-Koreans.

Stephano, Thorzain, SeleCT, Sen, elfi and Idra are all out despite being thought to be potential winners.

Lol come on, nobody actually thought Thorzain or elfi stood a chance.


???

thorzain was the best euro at one point
Jar Jar Binks
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-25 19:28:34
November 25 2011 19:27 GMT
#4018
On November 26 2011 04:23 Zzoram wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 04:20 Packawana wrote:
And that's it, all the Koreans into the Ro16.

I'm putting bets right now on DRG or PuMa to take the tourney. HerO less so only because there are a lot of good zergs left over.


Writing off all the known Koreans was an obvious mistake. The known Koreans have been playing very strong and haven't lost any series to non-Koreans.

Stephano, Thorzain, SeleCT, Sen, elfi and Idra are all out despite being thought to be potential winners.


There's still time for redemption for foreigners, but in general I've not been impressed by their play this tournament. No foreigner looked all that solid, which is odd given that the competition at MLG was better and this is home turf for Europeans/Swedes, yet in MLG the few top foreigners who were there all looked pretty solid.

Still pulling for White-Ra though.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 25 2011 19:27 GMT
#4019
On November 26 2011 04:26 Flonomenalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 04:23 Zzoram wrote:
On November 26 2011 04:20 Packawana wrote:
And that's it, all the Koreans into the Ro16.

I'm putting bets right now on DRG or PuMa to take the tourney. HerO less so only because there are a lot of good zergs left over.


Writing off all the known Koreans was an obvious mistake. The known Koreans have been playing very strong and haven't lost any series to non-Koreans.

Stephano, Thorzain, SeleCT, Sen, elfi and Idra are all out despite being thought to be potential winners.

Lol come on, nobody actually thought Thorzain or elfi stood a chance.



I thought Thorzain did =/
Terminal
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom2109 Posts
November 25 2011 19:27 GMT
#4020
lol @ the zoom in
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