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Please stop the tournament comparison discussion. Especially regarding players their runs (Stephano seems to be the current topic). Stay on topic and stick to the games. Consequences will be met out to further derailment. In addition leave the usual out of this topic: -Balance complaints -Map complaints -Stream complaints -Caster/player bashing -Off topic discussions Logically continue this list with things that are obviously frowned upon. Enjoy the free and wonderful event with loads of games and coverage! | ||
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Akhee
Brazil811 Posts
On November 26 2011 04:19 MasterKush wrote: It must be fun to climb on board the "Let's Hate Terran" campaign that seems to be in this community. But let's face it, they have been weak since the ghost nerf patch (1.4.2?). weak? WEAK?? first lets see if it gets below 55% winrate, then we start discussing it | ||
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sToFu
United States189 Posts
On November 26 2011 04:16 skatbone wrote: Yea, I have to agree. That game was over as Hero was on 3 base and Sen had lost his third (after having lost and rebuilt his main). Sorry if I said that negatively; I know the game was over, but the thing is most players don't GG out that early like that - they pull desperation moves and hope for a favorable engagement, but Sen, like Idra, didn't do that. I agree that the outcome would not have changed, but IMO its nice to see a player attempt to come back from a situation like that, even if its destined to fail. (MVP, for example, makes people work very very hard to get a gg from him, even if it looks like he'll lose) | ||
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TheBanana
Norway2183 Posts
On November 26 2011 04:20 Packawana wrote: And that's it, all the Koreans into the Ro16. I'm putting bets right now on DRG or PuMa to take the tourney. HerO less so only because there are a lot of good zergs left over. Except Select. Also, Nerchio got this no problem. | ||
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
On November 26 2011 04:19 UBavarice wrote: Yes, this is accurate. Doesn't matter though since SaSe did in fact win  But if SaSe lost to Daboo he would also have been 1-2 and been eliminated But yes <3 SaSe is through | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On November 26 2011 04:20 R!! wrote: When was the last time a foreign terran won anything?I know what I think when I see Naniwa winning stuff while Thorzain doesn't get even close, taking into consideration the massive difference between them in wc3. The last one to win anything was ThorZaiN himself in TSL3. | ||
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On November 26 2011 04:22 TheBanana wrote: Except Select. Also, Nerchio got this, no problem. SeleCT has been infected with Murika, he lost his korean master race StarCraft powers. | ||
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
On November 26 2011 04:19 MasterKush wrote: It must be fun to climb on board the "Let's Hate Terran" campaign that seems to be in this community. But let's face it, they have been weak since the ghost nerf patch (1.4.2?). Let's face it, there's a thread specifically designed for this balance whining, and it seems you can't read the top of the thread: "In addition leave the usual out of this topic: -Balance complaints" ^See that? | ||
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
On November 26 2011 04:20 Packawana wrote: And that's it, all the Koreans into the Ro16. I'm putting bets right now on DRG or PuMa to take the tourney. HerO less so only because there are a lot of good zergs left over. Writing off all the known Koreans was an obvious mistake. The known Koreans have been playing very strong and haven't lost any series to non-Koreans. Stephano, Thorzain, SeleCT, Sen, elfi and Idra are all out despite being thought to be potential winners. | ||
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TheBanana
Norway2183 Posts
On November 26 2011 04:20 R!! wrote: When was the last time a foreign terran won anything?I know what I think when I see Naniwa winning stuff while Thorzain doesn't get even close, taking into consideration the massive difference between them in wc3. Foreign terran players win tournaments everyday, it depends on what kind of restrictions you make for the answer. | ||
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
On November 26 2011 04:22 AxionSteel wrote: The last one to win anything was ThorZaiN himself in TSL3. He also won the NASL Semi-open, don´t know if it counts as big tournament. Also Sjow won IESF. | ||
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GDbushido
United States926 Posts
On November 26 2011 04:22 sToFu wrote: This is a nice idea for GSL or laddering, but when competing in these marathon tournaments sometimes your brain really needs you to just say fuck it. I agree that the outcome would not have changed, but IMO its nice to see a player attempt to come back from a situation like that, even if its destined to fail. | ||
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sitromit
7051 Posts
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WaSa
Sweden749 Posts
On November 26 2011 04:19 MasterKush wrote: It must be fun to climb on board the "Let's Hate Terran" campaign that seems to be in this community. But let's face it, they have been weak since the ghost nerf patch (1.4.2?). No? I don't see any weakness - just that the game became more balanced since the Ghost nerf. EMP shoul've never been that strong in the first place. As for foreign terrans not winning anything, well they aren't as good as their korean peers and their pretty far from that korean skill ceiling than their toss/zerg counterparts. As for ladder, I ain't terran so maybe their too weak there so Idk... | ||
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McFeser
United States2458 Posts
On November 26 2011 04:22 AxionSteel wrote: The last one to win anything was ThorZaiN himself in TSL3. Select won the American Invational and Sjow won that random tournament in Korea - but I don't know if that counts. | ||
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Flonomenalz
Nigeria3519 Posts
On November 26 2011 04:23 Zzoram wrote: Writing off all the known Koreans was an obvious mistake. The known Koreans have been playing very strong and haven't lost any series to non-Koreans. Stephano, Thorzain, SeleCT, Sen, elfi and Idra are all out despite being thought to be potential winners. Lol come on, nobody actually thought Thorzain or elfi stood a chance. | ||
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
On November 26 2011 04:23 Zzoram wrote: Writing off all the known Koreans was an obvious mistake. The known Koreans have been playing very strong and haven't lost any series to non-Koreans. Stephano, Thorzain, SeleCT, Sen, elfi and Idra are all out despite being thought to be potential winners. Well,Koreans was always more dominating than the foreigners .No surprise there. | ||
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BlackGosu
Canada1046 Posts
On November 26 2011 04:26 Flonomenalz wrote: Lol come on, nobody actually thought Thorzain or elfi stood a chance. ??? thorzain was the best euro at one point | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On November 26 2011 04:23 Zzoram wrote: Writing off all the known Koreans was an obvious mistake. The known Koreans have been playing very strong and haven't lost any series to non-Koreans. Stephano, Thorzain, SeleCT, Sen, elfi and Idra are all out despite being thought to be potential winners. There's still time for redemption for foreigners, but in general I've not been impressed by their play this tournament. No foreigner looked all that solid, which is odd given that the competition at MLG was better and this is home turf for Europeans/Swedes, yet in MLG the few top foreigners who were there all looked pretty solid. Still pulling for White-Ra though. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On November 26 2011 04:26 Flonomenalz wrote: Lol come on, nobody actually thought Thorzain or elfi stood a chance. I thought Thorzain did =/ | ||
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Terminal
United Kingdom2109 Posts
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