EPTeuropean a teamers getting 5-0'ed against korean b teamer
however, not very unexpected...
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shadymmj
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european a teamers getting 5-0'ed against korean b teamer however, not very unexpected... | ||
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Derity
Germany2952 Posts
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nokz88
Brazil1253 Posts
On November 11 2011 12:49 gengka wrote: Why not? Koreans progamers official training time is from day to night, 6 days a week, and this doesnt include the free ladder practising time before they go to bed. They practise in a teamhouse where they have lots of pro practice partner. The difference SHOULD be huge, or else the Koreans shud be ashamed of themselves. There is no talents difference between koreans and foreigners. The only differences are the hard work and the attitude that koreans take towards the game. Take EG Huk as a perfect example. lol what a joke mentality you got. "The difference should be huge or else the Koreans should be ashamed of themselves"? How about: since the difference is this huge these "pros" should be ashamed of themselves? | ||
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Wrathsc2
United States2025 Posts
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two.watup
United States371 Posts
On November 11 2011 13:36 radiantshadow92 wrote: this is embarrassing for foreigners Luckily no one really considered any of these players top foriegners. | ||
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VoirDire
Sweden1923 Posts
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Elefanto
Switzerland3584 Posts
Basically every foreigner that went to Korea to practice is shocked how difficult and hard the Korean ladder is. While they were easily top 10 GM in Na/Eu they had less than 50% at the start of their ladder experience. | ||
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Shinta)
United States1716 Posts
On November 11 2011 13:27 nokz88 wrote: lol what a joke mentality you got. "The difference should be huge or else the Koreans should be ashamed of themselves"? How about: since the difference is this huge these "pros" should be ashamed of themselves? No, you're 100% wrong. The difference should be huge otherwise professional Korean players should be ashamed of themselves. The reason, as the other guy stated, is because they are so much more into being good than the majority of the rest of the world... If all higher level European teams practiced/trained as much, as hard, and as well as the pro gamers in Korea, then it would be surprising to see results like lower level Korea pro gamers AKing all mid-higher level pro European teams. If the pros from all over the foreign scene went to Korea, they would literally not even make a dime. They wouldn't be pro, period. They would have no hype, because their level would not be high. THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE. Props too all European/NA pros that do practice that hard though, because they are the ones we all look up to, and they are the ones we count on to beat Koreans. I'm a GoOdy fan too, but I'll never say that GoOdy is going to beat Korean players, because he's not that good. Regardless of his results in Europe, no... he's not even close to that good. | ||
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IMRandom
Korea (South)34 Posts
On November 11 2011 14:10 Shinta) wrote: No, you're 100% wrong. The difference should be huge otherwise professional Korean players should be ashamed of themselves. The reason, as the other guy stated, is because they are so much more into being good than the majority of the rest of the world... If all higher level European teams practiced/trained as much, as hard, and as well as the pro gamers in Korea, then it would be surprising to see results like lower level Korea pro gamers AKing all mid-higher level pro European teams. If the pros from all over the foreign scene went to Korea, they would literally not even make a dime. They wouldn't be pro, period. They would have no hype, because their level would not be high. THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE. Props too all European/NA pros that do practice that hard though, because they are the ones we all look up to, and they are the ones we count on to beat Koreans. I'm a GoOdy fan too, but I'll never say that GoOdy is going to beat Korean players, because he's not that good. Regardless of his results in Europe, no... he's not even close to that good. I'm so sick of reading these uninformed, racist, bigotry prejudiced crap . Shut the hell up | ||
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Shinta)
United States1716 Posts
On November 11 2011 14:38 IMRandom wrote: I'm so sick of reading these uninformed, racist, bigotry prejudiced crap . Shut the hell up Uninformed, racist, bigotry prejudiced crap? lol.... You must not watch games. None of the players on the past 2 teams are as prepared as the SlayerS players (I should say player). If you're trying to argue with me about that, then you are one of the biggest trolls of all time. If you are telling me that the players in the SlayerS house are less practiced and less coached than the players on teams like aTn, and ACER, you are one of the biggest trolls of all time. I will agree with the majority of the people that SlayerS vs Liquid/mouz (especially mouz) were impressive wins. mouz of all teams would have a fighting chance with top pro players (not singling out Koreans) because they themselves are pretty high level pro players. Among the highest of all European and North American pro teams. I would say EG/mouz are the best teams outside of Korea right now, and both teams, if competing in an event like GSTL, would provide nice results. Liquid would win a few games but probably lose the majority of the matches pretty handily. But yeah.... Don't tell me to shut the hell up when you have no idea what's going on. Read a book. Open your eyes. The world only spins in 1 direction. Though that direction changes ever so slightly over time, it does in fact spin in 1 direction. If you're going to troll more, slap yourself in the face first. And then again after you're done. At least for my sake. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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Fubi
2228 Posts
On November 11 2011 15:03 Shinta) wrote: Uninformed, racist, bigotry prejudiced crap? lol.... You must not watch games. None of the players on the past 2 teams are as prepared as the SlayerS players (I should say player). If you're trying to argue with me about that, then you are one of the biggest trolls of all time. If you are telling me that the players in the SlayerS house are less practiced and less coached than the players on teams like aTn, and ACER, you are one of the biggest trolls of all time. I will agree with the majority of the people that SlayerS vs Liquid/mouz (especially mouz) were impressive wins. mouz of all teams would have a fighting chance with top pro players (not singling out Koreans) because they themselves are pretty high level pro players. Among the highest of all European and North American pro teams. I would say EG/mouz are the best teams outside of Korea right now, and both teams, if competing in an event like GSTL, would provide nice results. Liquid would win a few games but probably lose the majority of the matches pretty handily. But yeah.... Don't tell me to shut the hell up when you have no idea what's going on. Read a book. Open your eyes. The world only spins in 1 direction. Though that direction changes ever so slightly over time, it does in fact spin in 1 direction. If you're going to troll more, slap yourself in the face first. And then again after you're done. At least for my sake. But that is exactly what this guy is saying: It's BECAUSE these foreigners pratice less and are less prepared and stuff as the Koreans, and therefore the skill gap (and getting all-killed by b teamers), THEY should be the ones ashamed of themselves being called a pro-gamer. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On November 11 2011 14:05 Elefanto wrote: Anyone expecting anything less in an online competition where the koreans are in their comfort zone without any stress is deluding himself. Basically every foreigner that went to Korea to practice is shocked how difficult and hard the Korean ladder is. While they were easily top 10 GM in Na/Eu they had less than 50% at the start of their ladder experience. Even after getting used to it its insanely hard. Sen for example has barely a 50% on the korean ladder and thats almost where he plays whenever I watch him (due to taiwan/korea merging). Its just a lot harder and sen's a beast. | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
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Shinta)
United States1716 Posts
On November 11 2011 15:13 Fubi wrote: But that is exactly what this guy is saying: It's BECAUSE these foreigners pratice less and are less prepared and stuff as the Koreans, and therefore the skill gap (and getting all-killed by b teamers), THEY should be the ones ashamed of themselves being called a pro-gamer. I don't think that's quite accurate though. There is not overwhelming support for becoming a top level pro gamer in other countries. There are some nice tournaments, however there is nothing HUGE going on in Germany. There aren't tons of sponsored players that practice all the time, there is not a whole ton of money, and it's not AS socially accepted there as it is in other countries (namely, South Korea). Those players are really good, and they are the professionals of their area, and they do provide incentive for other people to practice harder and get better. Because of that, they are not expected to do as well as Koreans (of course they CAN do just as well.. they are just not EXPECTED to). And because of that, they should not be ashamed of themselves for losing to people who are just at a higher level than they are. Also, the word professional is also different from what you're thinking. Professional means that there is money involved. Pros don't necessarily have to be awesome at what they do, they are called professional for what they contribute to the game and to the community. But yeah, if it were up to me, I would have preferred to not call them pro gamers, because the term itself is not accurate. | ||
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Dispersion
Korea (South)504 Posts
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SaberNodoka
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
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NaldoR
Singapore2198 Posts
Hope we can see slayers vs col MVP or EG | ||
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