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yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
November 09 2011 19:54 GMT
#2321
Tasteless saying "He is all about bomber" when they were going over the old groups made me laugh because of the charades episode.

Overall a lot of good games in the two groups ... except the last one ... jeeeeeeez
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
Nick.TNA
Profile Joined June 2010
209 Posts
November 09 2011 20:04 GMT
#2322
Danggg Huks in a group of death right now lol. MMA, Nestea, AND Losira.. I love huk, and hes my favvvorite player, but i can't really see him standing much of a chance to get out of the group...
Kharnage
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia920 Posts
November 09 2011 20:10 GMT
#2323
On November 10 2011 05:04 Nick.TNA wrote:
Danggg Huks in a group of death right now lol. MMA, Nestea, AND Losira.. I love huk, and hes my favvvorite player, but i can't really see him standing much of a chance to get out of the group...


Yeah, I was half expecting him to throw the match vs puzzle to get out of that group...
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
November 09 2011 20:11 GMT
#2324
On November 10 2011 05:10 Kharnage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 05:04 Nick.TNA wrote:
Danggg Huks in a group of death right now lol. MMA, Nestea, AND Losira.. I love huk, and hes my favvvorite player, but i can't really see him standing much of a chance to get out of the group...


Yeah, I was half expecting him to throw the match vs puzzle to get out of that group...


That's a really bad idea, sure he has a 50% chance to get a better group, but he has a 50% shot of also dropping right down to Code A RO 32... and even if he gets a better group there's no guarantee he's going to make RO8 anyway (likewise, no guarantee he'll get eliminated in RO16, although it seems highly likely).
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
November 09 2011 20:13 GMT
#2325
On November 10 2011 05:04 Nick.TNA wrote:
Danggg Huks in a group of death right now lol. MMA, Nestea, AND Losira.. I love huk, and hes my favvvorite player, but i can't really see him standing much of a chance to get out of the group...


Leenock not Losira.

He has a good a shot as anyone. Leenock has bad ZvP and MMA can be beaten in TvP.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
PlainShane
Profile Joined September 2011
United States62 Posts
November 09 2011 20:17 GMT
#2326
Group C was one of the best Code S groups I've seen yet! (started watching in August season). Amazing casting and games. HuK and Puzzle were incredible. Poor clide T.T

That $10 GSL season pass is the best deal. I'm very happy with my purchase =)
"Sorry, Venkman. I'm terrified beyond the capacity for rational thought." -Dr. Egon Spengler
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
November 09 2011 20:18 GMT
#2327
On November 10 2011 02:53 K3Nyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 02:50 Hider wrote:
On November 10 2011 02:43 K3Nyy wrote:
On November 10 2011 01:45 Eternalmisfit wrote:
On November 10 2011 00:49 Sabu113 wrote:
Yay a good day :D

edit:

Lol 1 day of tosses who have survived the culling of the last few months and we're being a little too optimistic. Look at who has been eliminated so far. Also note what gom did with the maps for Toss. Lets not get overexcited kids. Everyone was optimistic after Orlando and then the next set of tournaments corrected that misperception.


Which tournament are you talking about?

ESWC - P second
IeSF world champ - P second
Samsung Euro Champ - P first
ASUS RoG - P third
ESV Korean finals - P first and second

The only two major events where P did not finish top 3 were Blizzcon where Naniwa was the only recognizable toss and finished 4th and GSL finals, where everything apart from finals was already played before MLG. In the current GSL, toss are doing well in Code A and S. I am not sure which tournaments you are referring to.


Protoss was always doing fine in international tournaments but that doesn't say anything about balance though. I firmly believe people should stop using international tournaments as a means to perceive balance.


How should balance be decided then? Through game theoretic logic?


Through the highest level of play meaning Korean tournaments? Next thing you know the game is gonna balanced based around ladder.


But the highest level of play meaning Korean tournaments is a miniscule, MINISCULE sample size.

Besides it could be argued that since the Koreans aren't playing anywhere near perfectly ('everyone's still pretty bad at SC2' - Artosis) that we can't empirically judge balance from their play either. It is still perfectly possible that protoss was never underpowered and it was just a metagame thing - after all in a balanced asymmetrical RTS periods highs and lows in winrates are to be expected.

And the game is partially based around ladder; the 'adjusted win percentages' that Blizzard uses.
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 20:23:55
November 09 2011 20:23 GMT
#2328
On November 10 2011 05:10 Kharnage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 05:04 Nick.TNA wrote:
Danggg Huks in a group of death right now lol. MMA, Nestea, AND Losira.. I love huk, and hes my favvvorite player, but i can't really see him standing much of a chance to get out of the group...


Yeah, I was half expecting him to throw the match vs puzzle to get out of that group...


Its Leenock not Losira. Lately i think Leenock's the better player, though Losira is still alot stronger than Leenock ZvP.
|| Fruit Dealer | Leenock | Yughio | Coca | Sniper | True | Solar | Dark |
blamekilly
Profile Joined April 2011
466 Posts
November 09 2011 20:40 GMT
#2329
Huk still has mediocre PvZ. Yugioh beats Nestea on later too and he always destroys Huk whenever they meet on ladder. Ladder play means nothing. Huk has to improve his PvZ, maybe he can get a few practice games against Coca.
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
November 09 2011 21:39 GMT
#2330
Finally goddamn Sangho shows some good games. I want him to succeed sooo bad.
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
November 09 2011 21:43 GMT
#2331
On November 10 2011 06:39 kNyTTyM wrote:
Finally goddamn Sangho shows some good games. I want him to succeed sooo bad.


Sangho indeed played very well.

Im glad a player like virus got knocked out of code s. I ve never seem a player donate so many vikings and medvacs like he does. At one time, he had 1.5k of each resource and was maxed, but he took aaaaaages to make a Ghost academy.
I've got moves like Jagger
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-09 21:49:59
November 09 2011 21:48 GMT
#2332
On November 10 2011 05:40 blamekilly wrote:
Huk still has mediocre PvZ. Yugioh beats Nestea on later too and he always destroys Huk whenever they meet on ladder. Ladder play means nothing. Huk has to improve his PvZ, maybe he can get a few practice games against Coca.

Who doesn't have mediocre PvZ though? I guess you could argue that Hero and Oz are good at the matchup, but then we realize that Hero hasn't even beaten any Code S zergs, and just BARELY squeezed by the first round of Code A to an unknown zerg and lost to line last season, and the only good zerg that Oz faced in Code A(Curious), raped him 4-0.
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
November 09 2011 21:51 GMT
#2333
On November 10 2011 05:10 Kharnage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 05:04 Nick.TNA wrote:
Danggg Huks in a group of death right now lol. MMA, Nestea, AND Losira.. I love huk, and hes my favvvorite player, but i can't really see him standing much of a chance to get out of the group...


Yeah, I was half expecting him to throw the match vs puzzle to get out of that group...


Why even discredit HuK? He'd probably rather go out 2-0 and then take down both Nestea and Losira.
Ace.Xile
Profile Joined June 2011
United States286 Posts
November 09 2011 21:53 GMT
#2334
On November 10 2011 06:48 Olinimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 05:40 blamekilly wrote:
Huk still has mediocre PvZ. Yugioh beats Nestea on later too and he always destroys Huk whenever they meet on ladder. Ladder play means nothing. Huk has to improve his PvZ, maybe he can get a few practice games against Coca.

Who doesn't have mediocre PvZ though? I guess you could argue that Hero and Oz are good at the matchup, but then we realize that Hero hasn't even beaten any Code S zergs, and just BARELY squeezed by the first round of Code A to an unknown zerg and lost to line last season, and the only good zerg that Oz faced in Code A(Curious), raped him 4-0.


I feel like this could be said, there aren't many good protoss with great pvzs lately, the closest i can think of anythign was MC beating idra, and even then idras zvp is horrible and he was playing probably the only person in the world that can still ruffle his feathers that much.
BlackGosu
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1046 Posts
November 09 2011 22:06 GMT
#2335
On November 10 2011 06:51 Tyrant0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 05:10 Kharnage wrote:
On November 10 2011 05:04 Nick.TNA wrote:
Danggg Huks in a group of death right now lol. MMA, Nestea, AND Losira.. I love huk, and hes my favvvorite player, but i can't really see him standing much of a chance to get out of the group...


Yeah, I was half expecting him to throw the match vs puzzle to get out of that group...


Why even discredit HuK? He'd probably rather go out 2-0 and then take down both Nestea and Losira.

as good as glory is, money is better, and they are professionals to earn a living. winning is the most important, doesn't matter how you get there.
Jar Jar Binks
TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
November 09 2011 22:08 GMT
#2336
Novamber? Nah its November the-month-a--will-win-a-GSL-since-May-ember!
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
Trsjnica
Profile Joined April 2011
United States477 Posts
November 09 2011 22:23 GMT
#2337
On November 10 2011 07:08 TemplarCo. wrote:
Novamber? Nah its November the-month-a--will-win-a-GSL-since-May-ember!

I don't mean to alarm you, but Nestea won Code S in May. It was March that MC won.
Wegandi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2455 Posts
November 09 2011 22:27 GMT
#2338
On November 10 2011 07:06 BlackGosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 06:51 Tyrant0 wrote:
On November 10 2011 05:10 Kharnage wrote:
On November 10 2011 05:04 Nick.TNA wrote:
Danggg Huks in a group of death right now lol. MMA, Nestea, AND Losira.. I love huk, and hes my favvvorite player, but i can't really see him standing much of a chance to get out of the group...


Yeah, I was half expecting him to throw the match vs puzzle to get out of that group...


Why even discredit HuK? He'd probably rather go out 2-0 and then take down both Nestea and Losira.

as good as glory is, money is better, and they are professionals to earn a living. winning is the most important, doesn't matter how you get there.


Yes, you would rather face the better players in later rounds, but sometimes it's unavoidable. You know you have to face the better players eventually, so might as well do it in later rounds, but you will have to play them eventually. If you want the most money you have to perform the best.
Thank you bureaucrats for all your hard work, your commitment to public service and public good is essential to the lives of so many. Also, for Pete's sake can we please get some gun control already, no need for hand guns and assault rifles for the public
cold-
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada209 Posts
November 09 2011 22:28 GMT
#2339
huk to crush mvp and win gsl!
huk hwaiting
eg hwaiting
foreigners hwaiting
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
November 09 2011 22:32 GMT
#2340
Protoss doing so well in Code S and Clide in Code A WHAAAT?
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
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