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Tektos
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1321 Posts
November 10 2011 22:56 GMT
#2381
2 protoss both advancing 2-0



Toss bringing it back?
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
November 10 2011 23:11 GMT
#2382
On November 11 2011 07:55 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 07:42 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On November 11 2011 04:19 SeaSwift wrote:
Everyone says this, but it really isn't that bad. He has to beat Leenock (appalling ZvP) and then, assuming MMA beats Nestea, MMA, who has decent but not excellent TvP. The only real challenge at all is MMA.


That's the problem. A group does not become easy just because a certain set of results is plausible.


It's not so much that it's plausible as it is probable.

HuK is heavily favoured to beat Leenock.
MMA is heavily favoured to beat Nestea.
HuK and MMA seem pretty evenly matched.

So a very rough approximation would be that, assuming the first two matches don't have upsets, Huk has a 50/50 chance of getting out of this group. Not bad, especially considering the alternatives.


HuK being "heavily favored" to beat Leenock would be a bad assessment, just like MMA being "heavily favored" to beat Nestea. Let's not forget we are pitting serviceable PvZ (recent) against historically bad PvZ (3+ months) and we have no clue if Leenock improved in the matchup.
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Devise
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1131 Posts
November 10 2011 23:17 GMT
#2383
On November 11 2011 08:11 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 07:55 SeaSwift wrote:
On November 11 2011 07:42 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On November 11 2011 04:19 SeaSwift wrote:
Everyone says this, but it really isn't that bad. He has to beat Leenock (appalling ZvP) and then, assuming MMA beats Nestea, MMA, who has decent but not excellent TvP. The only real challenge at all is MMA.


That's the problem. A group does not become easy just because a certain set of results is plausible.


It's not so much that it's plausible as it is probable.

HuK is heavily favoured to beat Leenock.
MMA is heavily favoured to beat Nestea.
HuK and MMA seem pretty evenly matched.

So a very rough approximation would be that, assuming the first two matches don't have upsets, Huk has a 50/50 chance of getting out of this group. Not bad, especially considering the alternatives.


HuK being "heavily favored" to beat Leenock would be a bad assessment, just like MMA being "heavily favored" to beat Nestea. Let's not forget we are pitting serviceable PvZ (recent) against historically bad PvZ (3+ months) and we have no clue if Leenock improved in the matchup.


Exactly with the Leenock thing, and what's with eh "MMA heavily favoured vs NesTea" ?? Sure he's had some great games vs Z and even NesTea recently and he just won GSL, but NesTea is still NesTea, that should be a great match if they are both playing their best.
jinixxx123
Profile Joined June 2010
543 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 23:22:57
November 10 2011 23:21 GMT
#2384
mind you these games with toss were won pre-patch before the EMP nerf. Blizzard seriously needs to wait a little, i know its hard to not wait with 10000000000000000000000 flamers/bandwagonists saying protoss is UD terran OP, but wait and see, GSL is the one that had the bad tournament setup for the turn over rate . With this nerf of emp its been so hard.. 1/1/1 every game it seems like is the better choice than trying to play a macro game vs P
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Profile Joined January 2011
Germany94 Posts
November 13 2011 22:31 GMT
#2385
HuK's GSL!
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 22:36:33
November 13 2011 22:36 GMT
#2386
Really happy about these results. Go protoss! Terran get out.
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