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If you don't know how to post in a live report thread by now, be advised: don't whine about game balance and don't bash players/casters/interviewers/staff/other posters. We are monitoring this thread closely.

Stop with the USA USA chant shit. Further offenses beyond page 493 will be met with bans. You've been warned.
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
October 10 2011 03:34 GMT
#18061
On October 10 2011 12:20 cyclone25 wrote:
Stephano has flawless play, best player in the world by far (maybe Mvp is close to him).


Are you serious? Looking at his PvZ, I feel like someone like MC will roll him (yeah I know MC is code B currently). Inori basically screwed over the other toss' chance of winning the tournament IMO.
Envy fan since NTH.
Darclite
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1021 Posts
October 10 2011 03:34 GMT
#18062
On October 10 2011 12:27 koolaid1990 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 12:24 nvs. wrote:
On October 10 2011 12:24 Darclite wrote:
I don't really understand the people who try to diminish a player's win the moment after he wins. What are you trying to accomplish?

"Stephano isn't good. He needs to beat Koreans. He did? Oh well that was online. That doesn't mean anything at all. He needs to win a LAN anyway. Oh he did? But...were Koreans there? Really? But not good ones right? Oh MMA, MC, Puma, Lucky, Violet, TheStC, Artist, Inori, Ryung, Boxer, Hero, Sleep, and Select were there...well...fuck you I don't like Stephano I'm not listening anymore lalalalalala."

Congratulations Stephano.


Can we quote this and lock the thread. Sums it up nicely.

Lets see, of the ones you mentioned, which koreans are the best out of those koreans?
MMA, MC, Puma, and Ryung
Yes stephano beat all of them in this offline lan event!
oh wait...


Guys, we need to get Stephano to 4-0 Polt, MVP, Keen, Huk, Top, MC, July, Genius, Ryung, MMA, Zenio, Nestea, Puzzle, Bomber, Virus, Nada, Hongun, Happy, Killer, asd, Clide, Noblesse, Coca, Alive, Ensnare, Supernova, Losira, Taeja, Leenock, Marineking, Jjakji, Dongraegu, Oz, Gumiho, Sage, sC, Lucky, Curious, Byun, Alicia, JYP, Yugioh, and Ganzi. It needs to be at a lan or it doesn't count, and he can't cheese even if they expand at 15 or it doesn't count, and he needs to play with one hand and blindfolded or it doesn't count.

Otherwise he sucks.
They're fools. You should eat them.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
October 10 2011 03:34 GMT
#18063
On October 10 2011 12:33 nokz88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 12:32 Azarkon wrote:
There's no point discussing games that never happened.

What I want to point out is that the players Stephano beat, weren't some random Korean scrubs who just happened to get "lucky." Even if you don't acknowledge they're Code S level, they did, in fact, take out very good players. Lucky took out MMA. Inori took out MC. STC took out IdrA, White-Ra, and Puma.

Tournaments do have an element of chance, but that's true for any tournament - GSL included.


Puma was taken out by MMA I believe


Oops.
Vocal
Profile Joined October 2011
116 Posts
October 10 2011 03:34 GMT
#18064
Oh my God can we just wait until this kid hits Korea?

He IS still going to Korea, right?
Nontrivial
Profile Joined April 2011
United States56 Posts
October 10 2011 03:34 GMT
#18065
What was the viewership numbers at the end? Also great play by Stephano!

ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
October 10 2011 03:34 GMT
#18066
Do people actually realize that Stephano beat 4 Korean pros in a row during an "offline" event? That's pretty damn impressive no matter who the Koreans were.
gratz Stephano
Imbu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States903 Posts
October 10 2011 03:35 GMT
#18067
Congrats Stephano!!

I'm going to be sad that in a year I might no longer be able to see you play, but until then, just keep on slaying nerds (or in this case, Slasher's hair :D).
@DreamingBird
Goshdarnit
Profile Joined August 2011
United States540 Posts
October 10 2011 03:35 GMT
#18068
On October 10 2011 12:27 xAPOCALYPSEx wrote:
Stephano had an impressive showing, but you can't call someone the best foreigner (someone is even calling him the best player) in the world just because he wins 1 offline event. The players he beat weren't exactly top-tier. He beat a few of them in the online qualifiers but that doesn't mean much especially against a T or P where micro matters so much (I personally watched mkp lose to stephano because of his lack of marine splitting timing, most likely due to lag).

He's good, but don't be so damn quick to jump on the bandwagon. He won a single offline tourney by beating, frankly, mediocre players (as far as KR standards)


Hmmm, the people he beat were pretty top tier. I'm not saying he IS nestea or some code S champion. But please name a foreigner who is better than him, I would like to know who it is. I know your not dissing him, but your comment is downplaying him a bit much tbh. He is a great player with fantastic potential. Also I saw him play some bad games this tournament, he has among he best zvt AND zvp in the foreigner scene and great zvz comparable to dimaga if not better.
I can count the amount of zergs in the world that are as good in any matchup as he is in all three on my hands.
Speaking of nestea and losira (well I wasn't but w/e) stephano might have better zvt then them (but that is not proven by anything except that zvt is the IM zergs' worst MU).
ulan-bat
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
China403 Posts
October 10 2011 03:35 GMT
#18069
Stephano may not be quite there yet but let him practice like the others (10 hours/day) and we'll see, we will see...
"Short games, shorts, summer weather, those things bring the heat!" - EG.iNcontroL
Psyclon
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria2443 Posts
October 10 2011 03:35 GMT
#18070
And now it's time to stop reading this thread. Stephano, who is 18 years old, who started playing this game full-time less than a month ago, just won 30,000 $ by beating several Korean players - and there are people who try to discredit his win? Seriously? What is wrong with you?
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds!
Packawana
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1081 Posts
October 10 2011 03:35 GMT
#18071
On October 10 2011 12:33 nokz88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 12:32 Azarkon wrote:
There's no point discussing games that never happened.

What I want to point out is that the players Stephano beat, weren't some random Korean scrubs who just happened to get "lucky." Even if you don't acknowledge they're Code S level, they did, in fact, take out very good players. Lucky took out MMA. Inori took out MC. STC took out IdrA, White-Ra, and Puma.

Tournaments do have an element of chance, but that's true for any tournament - GSL included.


Puma was taken out by MMA I believe


But PuMa can take out Stephano but Stephano can take out MMA.

This is where it becomes nearly impossible to figure out a skill level by just beating someone.
"May all your dreaming fill the empty sky."
dgwow
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1024 Posts
October 10 2011 03:35 GMT
#18072
I thoroughly enjoyed IPL3 and believe this marks a momentous occasion for foreigners in the tournament scene.

The fan question segment was really awesome!

As for future events, I hope for IGN to make things a little more exciting in between games, maybe add some events or music shows ala GSL? And it was pretty obvious a lot of the people involved were nervous speaking on stage

Congratulations Stephano! Next stop, KOREA
Don't let those anti-cheese advocates tell you what to do. Rush to meet life head on!
Lamphead
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada241 Posts
October 10 2011 03:35 GMT
#18073
lol yeah..Stephano beat a bunch of crappy Korean players..that beat every other Korean in the IPL qualifiers..lol

he had the confidence to put a smiley face at like the 3 minute mark of the game in what he calls his worst matchup based on a build order advantage he just realized..he has an extremely deep understanding of the game, which is why he's able to do so much with little practice..he's motivated by money, and now that's he's realizing his potential to take big tournaments..and he's only 18
We didn't lose the game. We just ran out of time. - Vince Lombardi
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
October 10 2011 03:35 GMT
#18074
On October 10 2011 12:32 Azarkon wrote:
There's no point discussing games that never happened.

What I want to point out is that the players Stephano beat weren't some random Korean scrubs who just happened to get "lucky." Even if you don't acknowledge they're Code S level, they did, in fact, take out very good players. Lucky took out MMA. Inori took out MC. STC took out IdrA, White-Ra, and Puma.

Tournaments do have an element of chance, but that's true for any tournament - GSL included.


They are random Korean scrubs because they don't have the renown of some of their more well known counter parts. Same bullshit for Bomber and same bullshit for DRG. "I don't know who they are so therefore they're terrible."
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
October 10 2011 03:36 GMT
#18075
Let's do some simple math @ Stephano haters.

Results since September:
1) MMA 2-1 July, MMA 2-0 Nestea, MMA 2-1 Losira
2) Lucky 3-0 MMA
3) Stephano 4-0 Lucky

That means Stephano is worlds ahead of the koreans. Don't even try to argue on this because it's just basic mathematics.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
October 10 2011 03:36 GMT
#18076
On October 10 2011 12:35 Psyclon wrote:
And now it's time to stop reading this thread. Stephano, who is 18 years old, who started playing this game full-time less than a month ago, just won 30,000 $ by beating several Korean players - and there are people who try to discredit his win? Seriously? What is wrong with you?


Jealousy be an ugly beast when she rears her head.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
October 10 2011 03:36 GMT
#18077
Damn frenchmen stealing our 'Merican e-sports moneyz

j/k congrats Stephano. Just be sure to make it up to us by attending an American Med school, where you can use your 30k on 1 year's worth of tuition. :D
Vocal
Profile Joined October 2011
116 Posts
October 10 2011 03:36 GMT
#18078
On October 10 2011 12:35 Psyclon wrote:
And now it's time to stop reading this thread. Stephano, who is 18 years old, who started playing this game full-time less than a month ago, just won 30,000 $ by beating several Korean players - and there are people who try to discredit his win? Seriously? What is wrong with you?


No ones discrediting anyone, they're just arguing with idiots who are saying Stephano > Mvp or whatever the fuck they're saying right now.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
October 10 2011 03:36 GMT
#18079
On October 10 2011 12:35 Goshdarnit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 12:27 xAPOCALYPSEx wrote:
Stephano had an impressive showing, but you can't call someone the best foreigner (someone is even calling him the best player) in the world just because he wins 1 offline event. The players he beat weren't exactly top-tier. He beat a few of them in the online qualifiers but that doesn't mean much especially against a T or P where micro matters so much (I personally watched mkp lose to stephano because of his lack of marine splitting timing, most likely due to lag).

He's good, but don't be so damn quick to jump on the bandwagon. He won a single offline tourney by beating, frankly, mediocre players (as far as KR standards)


Hmmm, the people he beat were pretty top tier. I'm not saying he IS nestea or some code S champion. But please name a foreigner who is better than him, I would like to know who it is. I know your not dissing him, but your comment is downplaying him a bit much tbh. He is a great player with fantastic potential. Also I saw him play some bad games this tournament, he has among he best zvt AND zvp in the foreigner scene and great zvz comparable to dimaga if not better.
I can count the amount of zergs in the world that are as good in any matchup as he is in all three on my hands.
Speaking of nestea and losira (well I wasn't but w/e) stephano might have better zvt then them (but that is not proven by anything except that zvt is the IM zergs' worst MU).


They were not top-tier Koreans at all.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
October 10 2011 03:36 GMT
#18080
On October 10 2011 12:34 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 12:33 nokz88 wrote:
On October 10 2011 12:32 Azarkon wrote:
There's no point discussing games that never happened.

What I want to point out is that the players Stephano beat, weren't some random Korean scrubs who just happened to get "lucky." Even if you don't acknowledge they're Code S level, they did, in fact, take out very good players. Lucky took out MMA. Inori took out MC. STC took out IdrA, White-Ra, and Puma.

Tournaments do have an element of chance, but that's true for any tournament - GSL included.


Puma was taken out by MMA I believe


Oops.


And Puma beat Whitera.
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
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