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mcmartini
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia1972 Posts
October 10 2011 03:40 GMT
#18101
Does anyone know where I can find vods of the panel they had earlier in the day, if so can someone please PM me? Cheers
I just want to say I have 370 APM - Liquid'Tyler SotG 14-12-2011 "I mean it's too bad you can't be paid to be, you know, a chicken shit fucking whiny bitch on the internet or we would have lots of rich community members" Nick "Tasteless" Plott
theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
October 10 2011 03:40 GMT
#18102
On October 10 2011 12:36 cyclone25 wrote:
Let's do some simple math @ Stephano haters.

Results since September:
1) MMA 2-1 July, MMA 2-0 Nestea, MMA 2-1 Losira
2) Lucky 3-0 MMA
3) Stephano 4-0 Lucky

That means Stephano is worlds ahead of the koreans. Don't even try to argue on this because it's just basic mathematics.

So... Rock beats scissors, paper beats rock, therefore... Paper beats scissors?

You're a genius.
If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
October 10 2011 03:40 GMT
#18103
On October 10 2011 12:38 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 12:36 cyclone25 wrote:
Let's do some simple math @ Stephano haters.

Results since September:
1) MMA 2-1 July, MMA 2-0 Nestea, MMA 2-1 Losira
2) Lucky 3-0 MMA
3) Stephano 4-0 Lucky

That means Stephano is worlds ahead of the koreans. Don't even try to argue on this because it's just basic mathematics.


you took that a little too far


Didn't Stephano beat MMA to qualify, or was that MKP?
We talkin about PRACTICE
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 03:43:02
October 10 2011 03:41 GMT
#18104
On October 10 2011 12:38 Daray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 12:36 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On October 10 2011 12:35 Goshdarnit wrote:
On October 10 2011 12:27 xAPOCALYPSEx wrote:
Stephano had an impressive showing, but you can't call someone the best foreigner (someone is even calling him the best player) in the world just because he wins 1 offline event. The players he beat weren't exactly top-tier. He beat a few of them in the online qualifiers but that doesn't mean much especially against a T or P where micro matters so much (I personally watched mkp lose to stephano because of his lack of marine splitting timing, most likely due to lag).

He's good, but don't be so damn quick to jump on the bandwagon. He won a single offline tourney by beating, frankly, mediocre players (as far as KR standards)


Hmmm, the people he beat were pretty top tier. I'm not saying he IS nestea or some code S champion. But please name a foreigner who is better than him, I would like to know who it is. I know your not dissing him, but your comment is downplaying him a bit much tbh. He is a great player with fantastic potential. Also I saw him play some bad games this tournament, he has among he best zvt AND zvp in the foreigner scene and great zvz comparable to dimaga if not better.
I can count the amount of zergs in the world that are as good in any matchup as he is in all three on my hands.
Speaking of nestea and losira (well I wasn't but w/e) stephano might have better zvt then them (but that is not proven by anything except that zvt is the IM zergs' worst MU).


They were not top-tier Koreans at all.


You're right. This tourmanet had 0 top tier koreans


Violet is not a top Korean, not even a Code A level Zerg. Lucky is a stylistic zerg whose style directly counters the Slayers terrans' fast hellion expands. He is also terrible at ZvZ. And Inori had Stephano dead to rights in game 2 of their series, but completely fell apart.

None of this means that Stephano played badly. In fact he played so well that his opponent's weaknesses became glaringly apparent. However he had a relatively weak path to the finals, same as Nestea did in his 3rd championship.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
DetO
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland69 Posts
October 10 2011 03:41 GMT
#18105
there's no other nonkorean zerg that is even near stephano's skill.
o,o
Tehs Tehklz
Profile Joined July 2011
United States330 Posts
October 10 2011 03:41 GMT
#18106
Man, I am actually a little disappointed. Stephano won without us getting to see him play MMA, Ryung, Puma or MC. That makes me sad.
Moralez
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1857 Posts
October 10 2011 03:41 GMT
#18107
On October 10 2011 12:40 mprs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 12:38 darthfoley wrote:
On October 10 2011 12:36 cyclone25 wrote:
Let's do some simple math @ Stephano haters.

Results since September:
1) MMA 2-1 July, MMA 2-0 Nestea, MMA 2-1 Losira
2) Lucky 3-0 MMA
3) Stephano 4-0 Lucky

That means Stephano is worlds ahead of the koreans. Don't even try to argue on this because it's just basic mathematics.


you took that a little too far


Didn't Stephano beat MMA to qualify, or was that MKP?


He beat Both.
Master League Zerg - EGIdrA - IMNesTea - EGMachine - EGIncoNtrol - IMLosirA - Destiny - MVPDRG -
ThisGS
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany255 Posts
October 10 2011 03:42 GMT
#18108
IdrA wins IEM china:
"IdrA best foreigner"

Stephano wins IPL3, 10x harder to do, demolishing the player who knocked out IdrA:
"Stephano sux, he just got lucky"
"IdrA's play is clearly better"
and furthermore:
"Stephano is the best player in the world"

why cant ppl just enjoy what just happened.
pindleskin
Profile Joined January 2008
New Zealand199 Posts
October 10 2011 03:42 GMT
#18109
On October 10 2011 12:36 cyclone25 wrote:
Let's do some simple math @ Stephano haters.

Results since September:
1) MMA 2-1 July, MMA 2-0 Nestea, MMA 2-1 Losira
2) Lucky 3-0 MMA
3) Stephano 4-0 Lucky

That means Stephano is worlds ahead of the koreans. Don't even try to argue on this because it's just basic mathematics.

HAHAHA BASIC MATHEMATICS. Must be the language barrier. =d
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4179 Posts
October 10 2011 03:42 GMT
#18110
On October 10 2011 12:39 Resilient wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 12:37 Dante08 wrote:
Cmon guys you have to admit Stephano got a relatively easy bracket.
Not taking anything away from his win, I watched the ZvZ finals and he completely outplayed Lucky. His game sense is crazy.


By even mentioning that, you're taking things away from his win. He defeated a lot of great players to qualify for IPL, then defeated a lot more great players to win the tournament. That's all there is to it.


Ok I'll rephrase, hes a god dam amazing player and deserves the win 100%. I guess what Im saying is that I would have liked to see him play the better players in this tournament for example, MMA, Ryung Puma etc.
Packawana
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1081 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 03:42:46
October 10 2011 03:42 GMT
#18111
If a non-Korean wins MLG, the cycle will be complete. :D

We already have IEM and IPL, MLG here we come!
"May all your dreaming fill the empty sky."
Mczeppo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany319 Posts
October 10 2011 03:42 GMT
#18112
sorry teamliquid but i have to say this. maybe i get a ban i dont know.

Some guys here have their heads stuck in korean ass to much

User was temp banned for this post.
"whether you make it or not depends mostly on the personal battle within yourself." - NaDa
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
October 10 2011 03:42 GMT
#18113
On October 10 2011 12:41 DetO wrote:
there's no other nonkorean zerg that is even near stephano's skill.

Idra, Dimaga, Sen are right behind him I think.
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 03:43:44
October 10 2011 03:42 GMT
#18114
On October 10 2011 12:36 Vocal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 12:35 Psyclon wrote:
And now it's time to stop reading this thread. Stephano, who is 18 years old, who started playing this game full-time less than a month ago, just won 30,000 $ by beating several Korean players - and there are people who try to discredit his win? Seriously? What is wrong with you?


No ones discrediting anyone, they're just arguing with idiots who are saying Stephano > Mvp or whatever the fuck they're saying right now.

How many people were actually saying this? I see many more people who whine about how easy Stephano's path was!

Imagine the hype around Idra if he would have won this IPL! Then shut up.

Stephano deserves some hype and he deserves his fanboys because this was an outstanding achievement, especially because he doesn't train in korea.
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 03:43:04
October 10 2011 03:42 GMT
#18115
On October 10 2011 12:40 mprs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 12:38 darthfoley wrote:
On October 10 2011 12:36 cyclone25 wrote:
Let's do some simple math @ Stephano haters.

Results since September:
1) MMA 2-1 July, MMA 2-0 Nestea, MMA 2-1 Losira
2) Lucky 3-0 MMA
3) Stephano 4-0 Lucky

That means Stephano is worlds ahead of the koreans. Don't even try to argue on this because it's just basic mathematics.


you took that a little too far


Didn't Stephano beat MMA to qualify, or was that MKP?


He beat Socke, Revival, Puzzle, Kiwikaki and MMA to qualify.

EZPZ. Was all because of lag amirite?
thane
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States407 Posts
October 10 2011 03:42 GMT
#18116
Very well run event please keep it up guys! The sponsor plugging may need to be done by people other than casters in the future as well though.
ThisGS
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany255 Posts
October 10 2011 03:42 GMT
#18117
On October 10 2011 12:41 DetO wrote:
there's no other nonkorean zerg that is even near stephano's skill.


nerchio, ret, idra, dimaga, sen come very close.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
October 10 2011 03:42 GMT
#18118
On October 10 2011 12:35 Goshdarnit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 12:27 xAPOCALYPSEx wrote:
Stephano had an impressive showing, but you can't call someone the best foreigner (someone is even calling him the best player) in the world just because he wins 1 offline event. The players he beat weren't exactly top-tier. He beat a few of them in the online qualifiers but that doesn't mean much especially against a T or P where micro matters so much (I personally watched mkp lose to stephano because of his lack of marine splitting timing, most likely due to lag).

He's good, but don't be so damn quick to jump on the bandwagon. He won a single offline tourney by beating, frankly, mediocre players (as far as KR standards)


Hmmm, the people he beat were pretty top tier. I'm not saying he IS nestea or some code S champion. But please name a foreigner who is better than him, I would like to know who it is. I know your not dissing him, but your comment is downplaying him a bit much tbh. He is a great player with fantastic potential. Also I saw him play some bad games this tournament, he has among he best zvt AND zvp in the foreigner scene and great zvz comparable to dimaga if not better.
I can count the amount of zergs in the world that are as good in any matchup as he is in all three on my hands.
Speaking of nestea and losira (well I wasn't but w/e) stephano might have better zvt then them (but that is not proven by anything except that zvt is the IM zergs' worst MU).


His performance in this tournament was extraordinary but that doesn't make him the best foreigner. He's extremely good, but there are many other good ones too like Dimaga, Mana, ThorZaIN who've all beaten him on LAN recently and done well vs Koreans.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
October 10 2011 03:43 GMT
#18119
On October 10 2011 12:41 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 12:38 Daray wrote:
On October 10 2011 12:36 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On October 10 2011 12:35 Goshdarnit wrote:
On October 10 2011 12:27 xAPOCALYPSEx wrote:
Stephano had an impressive showing, but you can't call someone the best foreigner (someone is even calling him the best player) in the world just because he wins 1 offline event. The players he beat weren't exactly top-tier. He beat a few of them in the online qualifiers but that doesn't mean much especially against a T or P where micro matters so much (I personally watched mkp lose to stephano because of his lack of marine splitting timing, most likely due to lag).

He's good, but don't be so damn quick to jump on the bandwagon. He won a single offline tourney by beating, frankly, mediocre players (as far as KR standards)


Hmmm, the people he beat were pretty top tier. I'm not saying he IS nestea or some code S champion. But please name a foreigner who is better than him, I would like to know who it is. I know your not dissing him, but your comment is downplaying him a bit much tbh. He is a great player with fantastic potential. Also I saw him play some bad games this tournament, he has among he best zvt AND zvp in the foreigner scene and great zvz comparable to dimaga if not better.
I can count the amount of zergs in the world that are as good in any matchup as he is in all three on my hands.
Speaking of nestea and losira (well I wasn't but w/e) stephano might have better zvt then them (but that is not proven by anything except that zvt is the IM zergs' worst MU).


They were not top-tier Koreans at all.


You're right. This tourmanet had 0 top tier koreans


Violet is not a top Korean, not even a Code A level Zerg. Lucky is a stylistic zerg whose style directly counters the Slayers terrans' fast hellion expands. He is also terrible at ZvZ. And Inori had Stephano dead to rights in game 2 of their series, but completely fell apart.

Wat? Maybe it's your phrasing but Kiwi won game two and lost convincingly in the other two games. I don't know what you're trying to say.
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FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
October 10 2011 03:43 GMT
#18120
On October 10 2011 12:42 Maenander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 12:36 Vocal wrote:
On October 10 2011 12:35 Psyclon wrote:
And now it's time to stop reading this thread. Stephano, who is 18 years old, who started playing this game full-time less than a month ago, just won 30,000 $ by beating several Korean players - and there are people who try to discredit his win? Seriously? What is wrong with you?


No ones discrediting anyone, they're just arguing with idiots who are saying Stephano > Mvp or whatever the fuck they're saying right now.

How many people were actually saying this? I see many more people who whine about how easy Stephano's path was!



The whiners are always crying the loudest and the most.
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