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[IPL] Day 1 Live Report Thread - Page 14

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Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
October 06 2011 14:33 GMT
#261
Is the stream up?
XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
October 06 2011 14:33 GMT
#262


I didn't know that you could watch from the PLAYER'S point of view... I should buy the premium... Or maybe not... FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU...
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) APM, Why u make me spam?
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
October 06 2011 14:33 GMT
#263
Shut up about "meaningless" games, good Lord. These people are competitors. They play this game for a living. They're not bronze trash. They will play to win, not necessarily using their most secret builds and strats, but they will not be throwing games.
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 14:34:58
October 06 2011 14:34 GMT
#264
On October 06 2011 23:32 Eufouria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 23:28 meRz wrote:
On October 06 2011 23:26 laguu wrote:
On October 06 2011 16:15 dde wrote:
so even if you do super bad in pool play you will still get placed in single elimination (championship bracket) Whats the point of having pool play then?


They want to produce more content, more games. Some people may like it but personally I don't care about matches that don't mean anything. I wouldn't be surprised to see a ton of cheese and something like 1 base bc/mothership etc.


You still earn a better seed whereas placing last earns you a really crappy seed thus you don't get any "easy" rounds. So it actually does matter.

But how are they deciding which seed plays which player from the open bracket? Are they seeding the open bracket, and if so, how are they going to do that?

It seems like its only there to provide more content, which isn't too bad, but I doubt anyone is going to show their real builds in the group stages.



??? Unless there's some sort of silent agreement between all of the pool players to just fuck around, you'd want to get that high seed otherwise you're gonna end up playing someone like TSL_Alive or something in the first round, which to say the least, isn't something you'd want.
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
Zaclye
Profile Joined February 2011
106 Posts
October 06 2011 14:34 GMT
#265
Kudos for the player vision cam while still being able to listen to the casters!
a faith healer taking advantage of people that want to believe
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
October 06 2011 14:34 GMT
#266
On October 06 2011 23:28 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 16:59 Denar wrote:
On October 06 2011 16:15 dde wrote:
so even if you do super bad in pool play you will still get placed in single elimination (championship bracket) Whats the point of having pool play then?


The explanation given by the IPL staff made a lot of sense for me :

NASL got people to come from all around the world, and get knocked out after 1 BO3. So some of those people who have travelled from so far away have played 2 maps.

Here, every player who has been invited/qualified will at least play a full pool stage + 1 bracket match.

Seems weird, but cool for the players and great for the viewers imo.


That doesn't make sense if that's the reason...having players play 3 meaningless group matches just for the sake of them playing more games isn't that good.

I'm sure IPL staff has good reasons for their format


That's certainly part of the reason. The other part is if you win your group you're likely going to get the foreigner.
aTo
Profile Joined September 2011
Austria588 Posts
October 06 2011 14:34 GMT
#267
On October 06 2011 23:33 Klonere wrote:
Is the stream up?


http://esports.ign.com/ipl/tv/?starcraft2/live/ignproleague

countdown already started
zap zap zap
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
October 06 2011 14:35 GMT
#268
hype hype hype!

I think having "meaningless" group matches is a great chance for the tourney staff to make sure everything is running smoothly, etc.
Makotoo
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland159 Posts
October 06 2011 14:35 GMT
#269
On October 06 2011 23:33 SolidMustard wrote:
Yeah, guys stop flaming about the pool play, maybe you're just unable to understand the importance of a game if it's not single elimination, but those results actually do matter. A lot.


They actually don't matter much at all. I don't see why anyone would play seriously and show their best prepared strategies and tendencies on games that have marginal importance.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38199 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 14:37:32
October 06 2011 14:35 GMT
#270
On October 06 2011 23:32 Eufouria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 23:28 meRz wrote:
On October 06 2011 23:26 laguu wrote:
On October 06 2011 16:15 dde wrote:
so even if you do super bad in pool play you will still get placed in single elimination (championship bracket) Whats the point of having pool play then?


They want to produce more content, more games. Some people may like it but personally I don't care about matches that don't mean anything. I wouldn't be surprised to see a ton of cheese and something like 1 base bc/mothership etc.


You still earn a better seed whereas placing last earns you a really crappy seed thus you don't get any "easy" rounds. So it actually does matter.

But how are they deciding which seed plays which player from the open bracket? Are they seeding the open bracket, and if so, how are they going to do that?

It seems like its only there to provide more content, which isn't too bad, but I doubt anyone is going to show their real builds in the group stages.


I'd imagine it goes something like:

Top 16 of the open bracket qualify.
bracket plays out
1-16 are placed.

#1-4 pool play draws #13-16 open bracket
#5-8 pool play draws #9-12 open bracket
#9-12 pool play draws #5-8 open bracket
#13-16 pool play draws #1-4 open bracket.

Are people seriously thinking there's 0 importance behind pool play, it may not be your life and death in the tournament, but it's probably going to be the difference between drawing an EG Puma and drawing an EG incontrol.

Players might not break out their brand new builds for this part of the tournament, but you can bet no one will be straight up messing around with their games.
Arimaki
Profile Joined August 2010
22 Posts
October 06 2011 14:35 GMT
#271
Am I going crazy or did I hear a short tasteless laugh during the countdown?
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
October 06 2011 14:36 GMT
#272
On October 06 2011 23:28 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 16:59 Denar wrote:
On October 06 2011 16:15 dde wrote:
so even if you do super bad in pool play you will still get placed in single elimination (championship bracket) Whats the point of having pool play then?


The explanation given by the IPL staff made a lot of sense for me :

NASL got people to come from all around the world, and get knocked out after 1 BO3. So some of those people who have travelled from so far away have played 2 maps.

Here, every player who has been invited/qualified will at least play a full pool stage + 1 bracket match.

Seems weird, but cool for the players and great for the viewers imo.


That doesn't make sense if that's the reason...having players play 3 meaningless group matches just for the sake of them playing more games isn't that good.

I'm sure IPL staff has good reasons for their format


The Format seems straight forward.

- Pool play allows for higher level games for days 1 & 2 (avoiding the 2010 MLG problem).
- Seeding *does* help the Pro Players. First in Pool play should get someone that finished 4th in their "Open Bracket", so that will likely be a weaker pro (or a good amatuer on a big run). This should avoid the Ret v Puma problem from NASL S1 Finals.
- We get to watch more Boxer.
- Fans get a chance to interact with the Pros more (see the number of Signings going on).
- Gives content for 4 days rather than 2 or 3. And avoids the MLG 2010 problem, again.
- Single Elimination for Championship bracket, as they don't have time to air a Double Elimination over 2 days, without doing 4 streams at once.
- Let's players get over the "Jet Lag" problem, as if they biff their Pool, they still have a full run to the Finals available to them.

It makes sense for what they want to do. Especially since everyone in the Top 32 wins 1k. A 1st in Pool is practically assured 2k.
laguu
Profile Joined October 2009
Finland278 Posts
October 06 2011 14:37 GMT
#273
On October 06 2011 23:31 Terminal wrote:
How are they meaningless games exactly? Don't winners get a better seed?

Seeds are pretty random anyway. It's not like you are guaranteed an easier opponent if you work your ass of to win the pool. They're not absolutely meaningless but I if you wanna do well, you have to be able to beat whoever comes against you in the bracket anyway. I'm sure the players don't take any pressure from the pool play matches.
Arguing with a fool proves there are two.
Manslayer
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile150 Posts
October 06 2011 14:37 GMT
#274
Stream is Up!
No quote D:
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
October 06 2011 14:37 GMT
#275
On October 06 2011 23:35 Arimaki wrote:
Am I going crazy or did I hear a short tasteless laugh during the countdown?

Your craving for handsome manhood is affecting your hearing abilities lol.
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 14:38:53
October 06 2011 14:37 GMT
#276
On October 06 2011 23:34 meRz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 23:32 Eufouria wrote:
On October 06 2011 23:28 meRz wrote:
On October 06 2011 23:26 laguu wrote:
On October 06 2011 16:15 dde wrote:
so even if you do super bad in pool play you will still get placed in single elimination (championship bracket) Whats the point of having pool play then?


They want to produce more content, more games. Some people may like it but personally I don't care about matches that don't mean anything. I wouldn't be surprised to see a ton of cheese and something like 1 base bc/mothership etc.


You still earn a better seed whereas placing last earns you a really crappy seed thus you don't get any "easy" rounds. So it actually does matter.

But how are they deciding which seed plays which player from the open bracket? Are they seeding the open bracket, and if so, how are they going to do that?

It seems like its only there to provide more content, which isn't too bad, but I doubt anyone is going to show their real builds in the group stages.



??? Unless there's some sort of silent agreement between all of the pool players to just fuck around, you'd want to get that high seed otherwise you're gonna end up playing someone like TSL_Alive or something in the first round, which to say the least, isn't something you'd want.

But how are they making sure that the best open bracket players get the highest seeds?

edit:Never mind its double elim, it makes sense now.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
October 06 2011 14:37 GMT
#277
The reason they do it is because the people have to be seeded. If the people in the invite groups could get knocked before the main tournament, that would be unfair, as it could be argued that winning an open bracket COULD be easier than fighting against koreans.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
NguN
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1322 Posts
October 06 2011 14:37 GMT
#278
Sigh, can't watch on my iPhone =[
Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
October 06 2011 14:37 GMT
#279
On October 06 2011 23:32 Choboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 23:30 Xcobidoo wrote:
It's pretty much the same as MLG no? I don't like it either but there's tonnes more flame here than when MLG airs, funny...

No it's not at all the same if you get first in your pool at MLG you get minimum top 6 while if you get last you get to ro32 or something while at IPL everyone gets ro32, doesn't matter where you place in the pool.

Well facing the worst qualified player from the open bracket and then another bad opponent is pretty much a sealed ro8 spot anyway.
Supreme Intergalactic Commander
iNViCiOUZ
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany364 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 14:39:34
October 06 2011 14:37 GMT
#280
Someone can get on the ign.com website?

Seems to be down for me (or is it just work which doesn't let me surf :D

OMG how good is the streaming portal(http://esports.ign.com/ipl/tv/?starcraft2/live/ignproleague)??

-6 Channels
- Split screen
- switch channels with keyboard
- free HD quality

Holy ign!
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