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On September 27 2011 19:41 RPR_Tempest wrote: Let's look at who is in U/D right now. Can HongUn beat them?
MvPNoblesse (Maybe) SlayerS_Puzzle (Probably) MvPKeen (Probably) oGsZenio (Can and has, so absolutely) MvPsC (Yes) FXOGuMiho (Yes) SlayerS_YuGiOh (Yes) ST.Curious (Yes) TSL.JYP (Yes) FXOz (Yes) FXOLucky (Yes) NSHoSeoSage (Yes)
I don't think HongUn is leaving Code S. Sorry, haters. What? This is so bias. I think HongUn is good enough to stay in code S but I don't think he can beat some of the players you say he can like Gumiho.
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On September 27 2011 19:42 snafoo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 19:41 dooraven wrote: Hongun being in the up and down is a good thing. Gimmicky play is not good, I'd easily trade Hongun for Hero, Oz, JYP and Sage. -_- The irony!
lol yea, tht statement was pretty ironic. But i still prefer all their play over Hongun's.
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On September 27 2011 19:43 red4ce wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 19:41 RPR_Tempest wrote: Let's look at who is in U/D right now. Can HongUn beat them?
MvPNoblesse (Maybe) SlayerS_Puzzle (Probably) MvPKeen (Probably) oGsZenio (Can and has, so absolutely) MvPsC (Yes) FXOGuMiho (Yes) SlayerS_YuGiOh (Yes) ST.Curious (Yes) TSL.JYP (Yes) FXOz (Yes) FXOLucky (Yes) NSHoSeoSage (Yes)
I don't think HongUn is leaving Code S. Sorry, haters. He can also lose to any of these players just as easily. Not really. HongUn is one of the most consistent GSL players. He consistently beats people he should, and loses to people he should. I'm a big HongUn fan and I myself thought he would drop to U/D.
But whatever, if GSL has taught us one thing, it's that anyone can apparently beat anyone. I'm just saying don't act like HongUn is out of Code S, he has probably a 65% chance at least of staying in.
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On September 27 2011 19:42 Lysanias wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 19:40 Big J wrote:On September 27 2011 19:40 Lysanias wrote:On September 27 2011 19:38 MilesTeg wrote: Such a BM move by Losira, making Hydras... Ye ... they are not good against stargate and stalkers, what a bm ... nope they aren't against stalkers as seen... Zerglings are! euh they are, zerglings are the distraction.
blink stalker beats pure hydra, you need zerglings for the extra dps and hp... And even then hungun was holding with pure blink stalker against way bigger zerg armies. I don't know how you can say hydra/ling is good against blink stalkers, when HongUn held like 3 attacks, until he got eventually overrun by 5base (one in gold) zerg economy, while not even fully saturating his 3bases...
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On September 27 2011 19:44 marttorn wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 19:42 Probe1 wrote:On September 27 2011 19:41 marttorn wrote: See? Now we're talking about the game that just happened!
ITS THE CURSE OF THE LR THREAD. WE MAY NEVER TALK ABOUT GAMES THAT ARE ACTUALLY HAPPENING. We have time during the break to discuss why HongUn loves blink stalkers so much but hates being good at blink micro.. Seriously. I was very underwhelmed with his blink micro. Yeah... I dunno, I like HongUn a lot, but if he wants to stay around he's gonna have to come up with some good innovative stuff. Not just gimmicky, tired old 2 base stuff. Look out for him at Orlando :0
I'm more wondering why he like Blink Stalkers so much, regardless of the situation. Is this a hipster thing? He used them before they were cool, and he now still uses them even though they arn't cool anymore?
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has anyone else noticed that the studio seems packed? o.O
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On September 27 2011 19:41 RPR_Tempest wrote: Let's look at who is in U/D right now. Can HongUn beat them?
MvPNoblesse (Maybe) SlayerS_Puzzle (No) MvPKeen (Probably not) oGsZenio (No) MvPsC (Maybe) FXOGuMiho (No) SlayerS_YuGiOh (Probably) ST.Curious (Probably) TSL.JYP (No) FXOz (Probably not) FXOLucky (Maybe) NSHoSeoSage (Hell no)
I don't think HongUn is leaving Code S. Sorry, haters.
There fixed it for you.
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On September 27 2011 19:44 Ruscour wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 19:42 Pervect wrote:On September 27 2011 19:41 RPR_Tempest wrote: Let's look at who is in U/D right now. Can HongUn beat them?
MvPNoblesse (Maybe) SlayerS_Puzzle (Probably) MvPKeen (Probably) oGsZenio (Can and has, so absolutely) MvPsC (Yes) FXOGuMiho (Yes) SlayerS_YuGiOh (Yes) ST.Curious (Yes) TSL.JYP (Yes) FXOz (Yes) FXOLucky (Yes) NSHoSeoSage (Yes)
I don't think HongUn is leaving Code S. Sorry, haters. lol Have you ever watched GSL before in your life...(not you, the guy you're quoting) If you think HongUn has even the slightest chance against the likes of sC or GuMiho you're out of your mind :D Putting Noblesse at the top of that list is insane as well.
yes, the guy who allkilled slayers(I think it was an allkill, maybe 3 kill) and pretty consistantly gets far into the tournaments doesn't have a chance against sC and GuMiho.....
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On September 27 2011 19:45 elwoodng wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 19:41 RPR_Tempest wrote: Let's look at who is in U/D right now. Can HongUn beat them?
MvPNoblesse (Maybe) SlayerS_Puzzle (Probably) MvPKeen (Probably) oGsZenio (Can and has, so absolutely) MvPsC (Yes) FXOGuMiho (Yes) SlayerS_YuGiOh (Yes) ST.Curious (Yes) TSL.JYP (Yes) FXOz (Yes) FXOLucky (Yes) NSHoSeoSage (Yes)
I don't think HongUn is leaving Code S. Sorry, haters. What? This is so bias. I think HongUn is good enough to say in code S but I don't think he can beat some of the players you say he can like Gumiho. How is it biased? It's completely based off what each player has shown and accomplished, as well as facts about each player that I know.
GuMiho hasn't ever shown any particularly impressive TvP.
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people may realise that if Protoss do anything different to Collusus they will automatically lose. haha.
No Protosses to ro16 code S. Killer has a very hard group so cant see him going through unles she upsets!!!!
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On September 27 2011 19:45 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 19:42 Lysanias wrote:On September 27 2011 19:40 Big J wrote:On September 27 2011 19:40 Lysanias wrote:On September 27 2011 19:38 MilesTeg wrote: Such a BM move by Losira, making Hydras... Ye ... they are not good against stargate and stalkers, what a bm ... nope they aren't against stalkers as seen... Zerglings are! euh they are, zerglings are the distraction. blink stalker beats pure hydra, you need zerglings for the extra dps and hp... And even then hungun was holding with pure blink stalker against way bigger zerg armies. I don't know how you can say hydra/ling is good against blink stalkers, when HongUn held like 3 attacks, until he got eventually overrun by 5base (one in gold) zerg economy, while not even fully saturating his 3bases...
People still don't realize how shitty hydras are
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On September 27 2011 19:45 Hassybaby wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 19:44 marttorn wrote:On September 27 2011 19:42 Probe1 wrote:On September 27 2011 19:41 marttorn wrote: See? Now we're talking about the game that just happened!
ITS THE CURSE OF THE LR THREAD. WE MAY NEVER TALK ABOUT GAMES THAT ARE ACTUALLY HAPPENING. We have time during the break to discuss why HongUn loves blink stalkers so much but hates being good at blink micro.. Seriously. I was very underwhelmed with his blink micro. Yeah... I dunno, I like HongUn a lot, but if he wants to stay around he's gonna have to come up with some good innovative stuff. Not just gimmicky, tired old 2 base stuff. Look out for him at Orlando :0 I'm more wondering why he like Blink Stalkers so much, regardless of the situation. Is this a hipster thing? He used them before they were cool, and he now still uses them even though they arn't cool anymore? blink stalkers are amazing their utility and power is only limited by the speed of your fingers
edit: oh and infestors
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On September 27 2011 19:46 Deshkar wrote: has anyone else noticed that the studio seems packed? o.O Maybe JulyZerg fans? Maybe people who got interested in SC2 again after WCG on OGN? Maybe camera tricks?
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Lossira saw the forecast for today: 100% chance of Blink Stalkers and no chance of Colossus. Can't imagine how easy it must be for someone so good to play against someone so predictable.
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Did he just call losira a legend? lol . . .
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HongUn is really not a good protoss. I do think he will go down to Code A.
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On September 27 2011 19:45 SilverforceX wrote: Does it feel like protoss is all about colossus? Without their aoe, protoss army just can't do stand up fights. Storm as well, though it's only good against ling/hydra/muta and Terran bio. Archons are situational as well. It makes sense; Zealots do a lot of damage but as a ranged army gets large in size they become useless, Stalkers have very very low damage for their cost. The power of Protoss is the high tech AoE, the power of Terran is the raw damage of stim bio, and the power of Zerg is a ton of units and reinforcements.
It's not a balance problem, it's a game design problem, if a problem at all. It's important to have the races feel totally different, if pure Stalkers were viable late game it'd feel too similar to Terran imo.
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On September 27 2011 19:43 fant0m wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 19:41 La1 wrote: Awh the awful protoss tech tree strikes again.. it takes too long to get colousus out if they go hydra and you go blink..
robo = time robo bay = time colosus = time
just sad.. Well if you are terrible at the game and don't expect a Zerg to go Hydra when you go 2 starport mass phoenix/void ray against them, sure. There is no excuse for not having Colossus, it has nothing to do with the race. And no shit, every race takes "time" to build a tech building. It's called balance.
oh it wass awful play, i wont deny that but if you go stargate you basically have to throw the robo down at the same time so that it times out that you just get your 2nd or 3rd collosus as the hydras mass.. which is gas heavy..
i think 2x stargate play is poor and he played awful but its true that protoss hugely lack the ability to tech switch..
edit: and you can't sit there and say hongun is terrible, i bet he would roll you and 99% of people on here easy peasy.
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Wel that was a neat little riff.
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I bet i dont speak for the terran fans of the community.. but at the moment for code S and Code A i'm in the kind of mood where i cheer for anyone that faces a terran 
i know its the "natural selection" and "its simply the best players in code S" blablabla.. i know all those.. but it is more fun when the race numbers at least is somewhat similar right? ^^
Go toss and zerg! kill the terrans!
think even if we combine both code S and A there's still 43.75% terrans
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