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McBrungus
Profile Joined April 2011
United States265 Posts
September 21 2011 12:20 GMT
#2341
I definitely think asd outplayed Zenio on that one. Zenio really missed a lot of opportunities to pick off reinforcements on their way to the middle when he was throwing away ALL OF HIS MUTAS in the main on that initial harass. Once he lost so many mutas it was really only a matter of time.
So I says to Mabel, I says...
Rykros
Profile Joined May 2011
483 Posts
September 21 2011 12:20 GMT
#2342
Poll: Which Match up you miss the most? in Code S

PvZ (48)
 
58%

PvP (25)
 
30%

ZvZ (10)
 
12%

83 total votes

Your vote: Which Match up you miss the most? in Code S

(Vote): PvP
(Vote): ZvZ
(Vote): PvZ

Alric
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia517 Posts
September 21 2011 12:20 GMT
#2343
On September 21 2011 21:16 Maghetti wrote:
Artosis still talking about expansions being weak vs 1/1/1...

Absolutely true. That first push from Virus would have completely destroyed an expansion, especially on that map.
"...he drew from his robe one of the five Eblis Stones, and for a few moments it made him an equal of Balor. The rest of the Legion was sacrificed... to give us time to take Balor's head."
michielbrands
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1146 Posts
September 21 2011 12:21 GMT
#2344
On September 21 2011 21:20 Rykros wrote:
Poll: Which Match up you miss the most? in Code S

PvZ (48)
 
58%

PvP (25)
 
30%

ZvZ (10)
 
12%

83 total votes

Your vote: Which Match up you miss the most? in Code S

(Vote): PvP
(Vote): ZvZ
(Vote): PvZ


TvT
- me (L) competitive gaming -
thanhbao86
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada199 Posts
September 21 2011 12:21 GMT
#2345
Terran people are right, Protosses are just bad. I hope one day, noone plays Toss and all you play is TvT on ladder. It is just funny, how people think it is fair for a Protoss to play perfectly to win but a Terran can just make a deadly combo and win like 90%. This was a problem with 2 base PvZ before and we have infestor buff.
It is a simple fact: if you see an all-in early, you should have an advantage, it shouldnt be still so damn hard to defend. I hope people find a way to defend.
Also, what virus did to Huk is not even 1/1/1, just to show you all-in options Terran has.
Fat Dragoon
wklbishop
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1286 Posts
September 21 2011 12:21 GMT
#2346
On September 21 2011 21:17 Darneck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 21:16 Maghetti wrote:
Artosis still talking about expansions being weak vs 1/1/1...

Pretty much everything is weak against it's so it's almost even pointless to discuss what is less weak.


A Nexus first actually defeats the 1-1-1 due to the timings of when and how much units come out when the actual push hits, but it's easily scoutable and the terran can always decide not to 1-1-1 when they see it.
Gameplay > Personality
killernaut
Profile Joined July 2011
Hong Kong1 Post
September 21 2011 12:21 GMT
#2347
On September 21 2011 20:46 BlazingGlory wrote:
0 Protoss in code S - quite possible

probably not, we'll probably be seeing genius get into the RO8 again
labbe
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
September 21 2011 12:21 GMT
#2348
On September 21 2011 21:20 Rykros wrote:
Poll: Which Match up you miss the most? in Code S

PvZ (48)
 
58%

PvP (25)
 
30%

ZvZ (10)
 
12%

83 total votes

Your vote: Which Match up you miss the most? in Code S

(Vote): PvP
(Vote): ZvZ
(Vote): PvZ


RvR?
Frostmister
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden77 Posts
September 21 2011 12:21 GMT
#2349
On September 21 2011 21:20 Rykros wrote:
Poll: Which Match up you miss the most? in Code S

PvZ (48)
 
58%

PvP (25)
 
30%

ZvZ (10)
 
12%

83 total votes

Your vote: Which Match up you miss the most? in Code S

(Vote): PvP
(Vote): ZvZ
(Vote): PvZ



I'm actually quite intressted in PvP now, and I'd like to see how the pro PvP'ers play it out now.
Shame There (probably) wont be any PvPs :<
"This matchup makes me wanna commit suicide" - Naniwa
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
September 21 2011 12:21 GMT
#2350
On September 21 2011 21:20 Demonace34 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 21:19 Demonace34 wrote:
On September 21 2011 21:17 Demonace34 wrote:
(P)Virus P9<Terminus RE>(T)asd P12

2:50 1 rax expand from asd, virus goes late gas.

4:00 Virus throws down his expand getting a factory afterward. asd throws up both gasses after CC and gets factory shortly after.

6:40 BF upgrade on the way for Virus. Both players getting starport and scan each other at the same time. asd getting tanks.
NaNiwa|IdrA|HuK|iNcontroL|Jinro|NonY|Day[9]|PuMa|HerO|MMA|NesTea|NaDa|Boxer|Ryung|
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
September 21 2011 12:21 GMT
#2351
On September 21 2011 21:18 Dean_ wrote:
People need to stop hating terran players and start blaming blizzard


I agree that people need to stop hating terran players but blizzards job isnt easy. Like Naruto pointed out balance isnt so easy, you cant just be like "lawl lets nerf marines" cause then it might fix some all ins while fucking up everything else.
beep boop
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
September 21 2011 12:22 GMT
#2352
On September 21 2011 21:20 Rykros wrote:
Poll: Which Match up you miss the most? in Code S

PvZ (48)
 
58%

PvP (25)
 
30%

ZvZ (10)
 
12%

83 total votes

Your vote: Which Match up you miss the most? in Code S

(Vote): PvP
(Vote): ZvZ
(Vote): PvZ



How the fuck can PvP ever beat ZvZ

Philistines T_T
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
September 21 2011 12:22 GMT
#2353
On September 21 2011 21:21 Demonace34 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 21:20 Demonace34 wrote:
On September 21 2011 21:19 Demonace34 wrote:
On September 21 2011 21:17 Demonace34 wrote:
(P)Virus P9<Terminus RE>(T)asd P12

2:50 1 rax expand from asd, virus goes late gas.

4:00 Virus throws down his expand getting a factory afterward. asd throws up both gasses after CC and gets factory shortly after.

6:40 BF upgrade on the way for Virus. Both players getting starport and scan each other at the same time. asd getting tanks.

7:40 BFH drop from Virus gets spotted and thwarted by asd's marine tank. Both players look to be going heavy mech.
NaNiwa|IdrA|HuK|iNcontroL|Jinro|NonY|Day[9]|PuMa|HerO|MMA|NesTea|NaDa|Boxer|Ryung|
kotlok
Profile Joined September 2011
11 Posts
September 21 2011 12:22 GMT
#2354
On September 21 2011 21:08 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 21:06 Tenox wrote:
On September 21 2011 20:57 mTw|NarutO wrote:
On September 21 2011 20:55 FallDownMarigold wrote:
On September 21 2011 20:52 mTw|NarutO wrote:
On September 21 2011 20:52 -y0shi- wrote:
On September 21 2011 20:49 -y0shi- wrote:
Could any1 tell me what happened in the huk game? I thought it started 20 minutes ago? How can it be over already?


Anyone? Please?


1 Base Marine/Tank push rolled 3 Gate Robo


Since he's provided subtly biased account of events A, I will provide subtly biased account of events B:

1 Base Zealot/Stalker/Immortal was mismicroed against 3 Rax Fact


How can I be biased towards Protoss? I am Terran.

And what happened was Marine/Tank rolled 3 Gate Robo and for me thats perfectly fine. Marines are high DPS, low HP units that need to get countered by splash damage.
If its through own tanks (aka enough zealots and good force fields so Terran has actually to focus fire with tanks) or with colossus OR overwhelming forces. Huk had neither and made mistakes so he lost the game.

:/ Really people should start thinking before posting.


Well your analysis is slightly incorrect, there was never a big enough window of time during the game where he could get out colossi safely, not even after he defended the first all-in...Even if he did another build it still wouldn't be possible vs these typ of all-ins.


I didn't say he needed a Colossus that game, I did name the counters to many marines. He didn't bring any of them or didn't control well enough, so he lost. Not saying its not easy to execute and strong for Terran, but calling it imbalanced or completely unbeatable is untrue.



The problem with protoss splash is (like MC already mentioned), that it is too far in tech: t4 (gate, Core, Robo, Bay) (gate, core, council, archives)
The other races can get splash much earlier: helions + banelings are t2

But I am with you when saying, that you cant justify every PvT loss with "terran OP". Thats not true because there are a lot skilled terrans out there. But I think we come together when saying that in general protoss lacks behind the other 2 races atm.

Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
September 21 2011 12:22 GMT
#2355
Here is how boring the first 9 minutes of a TvT is. Tastosis have not talked about the game once and have not missed a single thing because nothing has happened
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
flodeskum
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1267 Posts
September 21 2011 12:22 GMT
#2356
On September 21 2011 21:21 killernaut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 20:46 BlazingGlory wrote:
0 Protoss in code S - quite possible

probably not, we'll probably be seeing genius get into the RO8 again

Hongun and Genius will VR all-in their way to ro16 at least.
IdrA: " my fans are kinda retarded"
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
September 21 2011 12:22 GMT
#2357
Asd should crush Virus
Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
September 21 2011 12:23 GMT
#2358
On September 21 2011 21:22 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 21:20 Rykros wrote:
Poll: Which Match up you miss the most? in Code S

PvZ (48)
 
58%

PvP (25)
 
30%

ZvZ (10)
 
12%

83 total votes

Your vote: Which Match up you miss the most? in Code S

(Vote): PvP
(Vote): ZvZ
(Vote): PvZ



How the fuck can PvP ever beat ZvZ

Philistines T_T


It boggles the mind.
Love is more fun than hate.
Darneck
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1394 Posts
September 21 2011 12:23 GMT
#2359
On September 21 2011 21:21 wklbishop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2011 21:17 Darneck wrote:
On September 21 2011 21:16 Maghetti wrote:
Artosis still talking about expansions being weak vs 1/1/1...

Pretty much everything is weak against it's so it's almost even pointless to discuss what is less weak.


A Nexus first actually defeats the 1-1-1 due to the timings of when and how much units come out when the actual push hits, but it's easily scoutable and the terran can always decide not to 1-1-1 when they see it.

Usually the terran sees it and still decides to just go and crush it, and this wasn't even a 1-1-1 and an expansion would have been horrible against that marine tank push.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
September 21 2011 12:23 GMT
#2360
lol what a viking placement
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
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