On September 21 2011 21:10 ViperPL wrote:
Awesome, all terrans + Nestea and 1 non-terran from group E. Worst GSL ever ?
Awesome, all terrans + Nestea and 1 non-terran from group E. Worst GSL ever ?
Worst GSL because the best players are advancing?
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Rayansaki
Portugal1266 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:10 ViperPL wrote: Awesome, all terrans + Nestea and 1 non-terran from group E. Worst GSL ever ? Worst GSL because the best players are advancing? | ||
Zaurus
Singapore676 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:10 chanseyy wrote: Zerg: "Dammit Terrans are OP, nerf them!" Protoss: "Dammit we suck, buff us!" Terran: "Z and P players are just making more mistakes, exhibit A, B, and C. It's not a balance issue, the players are just all bad." So you are terran, cause you say the players that lost are bad. haha | ||
Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:09 CroDeadman wrote: Got a feeling Zenio takes it and Virus Zenio advance... -.-a after that asd game you think Virus is better then asd / I think asd will win it all, he's not well known but his last code A games were steller to, much more impresive then i ever seen a virus play. | ||
kodas
United States418 Posts
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:11 labbe wrote: Show nested quote + On September 21 2011 21:10 marttorn wrote: Poll: How do you think Zenio could of played better? WHY DID HUK LOSE OMG (39) Better micro (11) Better macro (4) Zenio deserved to win/other (3) Less indecisive (1) Better unit composition (0) 58 total votes Your vote: How do you think Zenio could of played better? (Vote): Better unit composition where is the "Better everything"-option? I wanted to vote more then once too. I wonder if any of the non terrans even practise anything other then vT. On September 21 2011 21:12 Rayansaki wrote: Show nested quote + On September 21 2011 21:10 ViperPL wrote: Awesome, all terrans + Nestea and 1 non-terran from group E. Worst GSL ever ? Worst GSL because the best players are advancing? No. worst GSL because all the players play the same race. I don't wanna watch 29 TvT's that last 35 minutes each. I wanna see all 3 races playing and the best players winning. | ||
samaNo4
Spain245 Posts
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
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Oboeman
Canada3980 Posts
Virus is a prime example of what polt was talking about in the group selections. zenio flanked quite a bit, which is great to see, but in a lot of the engagements he engaged while coming around a corner up a ramp, which chokes the units more and lines them up isntead of spreading them out. He also lost far too many mutas. that central location is very strong for terran, but I think zenio should have circumvented it more often like he did in the first few minutes.take out the destructible rocks at every 3rd for more paths, all that stuff. ling baneling muta doesn't beat terran when you're trading, you have to stomp his army into the ground without losing your mutas and still having banelings left over. | ||
Logros
Netherlands9913 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:12 Rayansaki wrote: Show nested quote + On September 21 2011 21:10 ViperPL wrote: Awesome, all terrans + Nestea and 1 non-terran from group E. Worst GSL ever ? Worst GSL because the best players are advancing? No worst GSL because mediocre players playing a better race are advancing. User was warned for this post | ||
Chise
Japan507 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:12 Doctorbeat wrote: Show nested quote + On September 21 2011 21:10 ViperPL wrote: Awesome, all terrans + Nestea and 1 non-terran from group E. Worst GSL ever ? You really think neither DRG, Leenock, Genius is going to make it? DRG and Leenock yes. And maybe some other Zerg(s). But to be honest, HuK was the Protoss I think has the highest chance of advancing. The other Protosses have harder groups and aren't neccessarily (a lot) better than HuK. I hope I'm not right though. I really don't want to see 0 Protosses in the RO16. Worst GSL because the best players are advancing? Do you really think that all the good players choose Terran? It's not neccessarily imbalance, but right now Protoss is at a huge disadvantage, which *might* change in a few weeks/months (just in case Protoss find a new way to play). Thinking all good players choose Terran is beyond stupid. | ||
labbe
Sweden1456 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:12 Doctorbeat wrote: Show nested quote + On September 21 2011 21:10 ViperPL wrote: Awesome, all terrans + Nestea and 1 non-terran from group E. Worst GSL ever ? You really think neither DRG, Leenock, Genius is going to make it? Yeah, this is more like DRG's wet dream. He is known as Terran Killer for a reason. | ||
vertical101
Hong Kong311 Posts
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fixed_point
Germany4891 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:14 Oboeman wrote: asd earned his win. Virus is a prime example of what polt was talking about in the group selections. zenio flanked quite a bit, which is great to see, but in a lot of the engagements he engaged while coming around a corner up a ramp, which chokes the units more and lines them up isntead of spreading them out. He also lost far too many mutas. ling baneling muta doesn't beat terran when you're trading, you have to stomp his army into the ground without losing your mutas and still having banelings left over. What was polt talking about? I missed the selections. | ||
tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:08 mTw|NarutO wrote: Show nested quote + On September 21 2011 21:06 Tenox wrote: On September 21 2011 20:57 mTw|NarutO wrote: On September 21 2011 20:55 FallDownMarigold wrote: On September 21 2011 20:52 mTw|NarutO wrote: On September 21 2011 20:52 -y0shi- wrote: On September 21 2011 20:49 -y0shi- wrote: Could any1 tell me what happened in the huk game? I thought it started 20 minutes ago? How can it be over already? Anyone? Please? 1 Base Marine/Tank push rolled 3 Gate Robo Since he's provided subtly biased account of events A, I will provide subtly biased account of events B: 1 Base Zealot/Stalker/Immortal was mismicroed against 3 Rax Fact How can I be biased towards Protoss? I am Terran. And what happened was Marine/Tank rolled 3 Gate Robo and for me thats perfectly fine. Marines are high DPS, low HP units that need to get countered by splash damage. If its through own tanks (aka enough zealots and good force fields so Terran has actually to focus fire with tanks) or with colossus OR overwhelming forces. Huk had neither and made mistakes so he lost the game. :/ Really people should start thinking before posting. Well your analysis is slightly incorrect, there was never a big enough window of time during the game where he could get out colossi safely, not even after he defended the first all-in...Even if he did another build it still wouldn't be possible vs these typ of all-ins. I didn't say he needed a Colossus that game, I did name the counters to many marines. He didn't bring any of them or didn't control well enough, so he lost. Not saying its not easy to execute and strong for Terran, but calling it imbalanced or completely unbeatable is untrue. That asd guy even though playing against not the best Zerg (no offence to Zenio) is really good. Strong macro, continues to expand, good drops etc. Something doesn't have to be 'completely unbeatable' to be imbalanced. If it is far easier to execute than to defend that in itself is a problem. VR all-ins were never completely unbeatable either yet they were nerfed. But yeah, even if there no were no toss left in code S or A people like you would still be claiming there's no problem. | ||
ViperPL
Poland1775 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:12 Doctorbeat wrote: Show nested quote + On September 21 2011 21:10 ViperPL wrote: Awesome, all terrans + Nestea and 1 non-terran from group E. Worst GSL ever ? You really think neither DRG, Leenock, Genius is going to make it? I really hope all of them do advance, but it's gonna be tough. | ||
izgodlee
Canada133 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:12 AxionSteel wrote: Show nested quote + On September 21 2011 21:11 jackdaleaper wrote: On September 21 2011 21:09 AxionSteel wrote: On September 21 2011 21:07 jackdaleaper wrote: On September 21 2011 21:05 AxionSteel wrote: On September 21 2011 21:04 Spectorials wrote: I think that Zenio outplayed him for 95% of this game but is still going to lose T_T? Not at all, asd has had exceptional macro the entire game, he was even way up on supply in the early game. He won a few battles, but really strong macro won out in the end. Nope Zenio had a lot of mistakes (losing his mutas, not having enough banelings, etc.) asd played the cleaner game and basically has this game won Ummmm yes? His macro was exceptional. If you don't notice that, then you don't understand starcraft. I'm actually agreeing with you dude, that was more for the guy you were replying too Oh ok my bad!! So used to people on here doing everything in their power to discredit a terran player even if they outplayed their opponent. rofl, it also looks like you are blindly defending terran without reading posts. Hilarity. | ||
zenith8
55 Posts
coz we have an even racial distribution of Terran, Terran and Terran | ||
antilyon
Brazil2546 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:11 Drey wrote: Show nested quote + On September 21 2011 21:10 chanseyy wrote: Zerg: "Dammit Terrans are OP, nerf them!" Protoss: "Dammit we suck, buff us!" Terran: "Z and P players are just making more mistakes, exhibit A, B, and C. It's not a balance issue, the players are just all bad." Stop saying crap like that, a lot of terran have said protoss needs buffs and that terran is a bit op. As a terran, "complete" is the right term for terran. We just have more options. | ||
Nachor
Germany83 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:11 izgodlee wrote: This is actually what BALANCE is. If the situations were to be reversed, terran crushes the first toss push, and the terran suffers NO scv loss, the toss will mass up for 3 minutes and go and win? No, never. This. I think this is the main problem people (including myself) have with Terran 1 base pushes. It's the feeling that in a situation where the Terran is the victim of a 1 base push and comes out without economic damage they are miles ahead and usually win shortly after. Terran feels like it is the only race that comes back from a failed push and still wins with the next one. | ||
Oboeman
Canada3980 Posts
On September 21 2011 21:15 fixed_point wrote: Show nested quote + On September 21 2011 21:14 Oboeman wrote: asd earned his win. Virus is a prime example of what polt was talking about in the group selections. zenio flanked quite a bit, which is great to see, but in a lot of the engagements he engaged while coming around a corner up a ramp, which chokes the units more and lines them up isntead of spreading them out. He also lost far too many mutas. ling baneling muta doesn't beat terran when you're trading, you have to stomp his army into the ground without losing your mutas and still having banelings left over. What was polt talking about? I missed the selections. polt basically said that terran is imba, so some of them don't deserve to be there, and as one of the deserving terrans it is his duty to knock some bad terrans out. | ||
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