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On September 08 2011 06:57 Severus_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2011 06:39 Olinim wrote:On September 08 2011 06:37 Severus_ wrote:On September 08 2011 06:33 Olinim wrote:On September 08 2011 06:28 Severus_ wrote:On September 08 2011 05:17 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On September 08 2011 04:53 Severus_ wrote:
Yes MC in Code A got tired of everybody defending this guy he is so bad... Seriously? The guy with the most prize money in sc2 drops down to code A and you think is that bad? Then who is actually good? Yes most prize money =/= the best in the world, but surely you can't constantly win money being "So Bad". Are you joking ? The only reason he won those champs because he exploited the new things in the game people catch on with his retarted timing attacks and he has nothing. He can't macro to save his life most of his games are gambles when was the last time you watched some of his games and said LOL that some solid play ? Because every time i watch Nestea,Bomber,MVP and some of the others players (Losira,Puzzle,Bomber,DGR) in their specific matchups i'm amazed and think to myself this is unbeatble and don't tell me recent MC vs Puma 2 finals because the NASL one all his wins were allins and the terminus game was fail 4gate into cuting probes for robo. The IEM one was complete roflstomp from PuMa....even in his games in Code S were jokes vs MVP he scouts tank,marine hard contain and insted of droping gates and rolling it with better upgrades and gateway pumps he gets colo from 2 base that cuts his gateway count and he gets contained to his death. Even in team league he is a joke and fails his team the game vs Revival on terminus proves that how he always gambe and gets roflstomped. Yes he got 2 wins from Taeja and Ryung who are medicore in their TvP at best Taeja didn't scout any tech in his game and Ryung is a T sniper. About his GSL wins well grats on exploting 3gate voidray allins,4gate PvP and N-gate timings rly a true champion who can deny that.. Seriously don't try to defend this guy cuz he is a joke and you spit in the face in all those who play day after day to improve their game by having a better macro,micro,strat then to exploit some retard timing attacks. Wow, I've never seen such a large concentration of horrible troll and abject stupidity in one post. Grats on your epic failure on every conceivable level. I'm not a troll thats just my opinion...if you think its wrong ok but you can't deny that after he got droped out by Polt in up&down he hasn't won anything. Starswar tournament? 2nd at IEM and NASL? 3rd at homestory cup and MLG? Highest winrate and best performing protoss even since his slump? Yeah he is just bad at this game. trolllllllllllllll Lol don't comepre those tours with the GSL.....and all those are not 1st places yeah he won the starwars thingy vs some dudes who never played vs KR metagame. You guys are just blind to what is happening and you just defend someone who you like ok thats fine but you will see that MinChul The suicide toss will disappear from the top spots not because the game is imba or something its because he fails to run with the other top dogs.Because he didn't improve at all this 1year of SC2 yes he knows some new builds his micro is good for SC2 level but he still has the same mindset and relays on what worked before if you compere him to lets say someone who had a simllar simallar play style like Polt for example he was 1/2basing terran BiTBYBIT style depending on his allins and timing attacks but look at him now he has 1champ he has legit macro and he is rly smart so look in that prespective and understand my point. I don't know what you are talking about Teaja his TvP beeing good he fails to scout tech switches and doesn't know when to attack at all so yes i think his tvp is medicore comepred to (PuMa,Bomber,MVP,Polt) .
And you based Taeja's TvP off a BO1 between him and MC? Okay.
At least he doesn't 1/1/1 all day, every day like Puma. Watch the ESV TV Korean Weekly, and you'll see why Taeja's TvP is considered "good." (Hint: ghost control.)
Also, Polt's macro isn't that great. It's not bad by all means, but there's a reason why he likes timing attacks so much, and there's a reason why he consistently gets beat by macro players.
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On September 08 2011 07:10 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2011 06:57 Severus_ wrote:On September 08 2011 06:39 Olinim wrote:On September 08 2011 06:37 Severus_ wrote:On September 08 2011 06:33 Olinim wrote:On September 08 2011 06:28 Severus_ wrote:On September 08 2011 05:17 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On September 08 2011 04:53 Severus_ wrote:
Yes MC in Code A got tired of everybody defending this guy he is so bad... Seriously? The guy with the most prize money in sc2 drops down to code A and you think is that bad? Then who is actually good? Yes most prize money =/= the best in the world, but surely you can't constantly win money being "So Bad". Are you joking ? The only reason he won those champs because he exploited the new things in the game people catch on with his retarted timing attacks and he has nothing. He can't macro to save his life most of his games are gambles when was the last time you watched some of his games and said LOL that some solid play ? Because every time i watch Nestea,Bomber,MVP and some of the others players (Losira,Puzzle,Bomber,DGR) in their specific matchups i'm amazed and think to myself this is unbeatble and don't tell me recent MC vs Puma 2 finals because the NASL one all his wins were allins and the terminus game was fail 4gate into cuting probes for robo. The IEM one was complete roflstomp from PuMa....even in his games in Code S were jokes vs MVP he scouts tank,marine hard contain and insted of droping gates and rolling it with better upgrades and gateway pumps he gets colo from 2 base that cuts his gateway count and he gets contained to his death. Even in team league he is a joke and fails his team the game vs Revival on terminus proves that how he always gambe and gets roflstomped. Yes he got 2 wins from Taeja and Ryung who are medicore in their TvP at best Taeja didn't scout any tech in his game and Ryung is a T sniper. About his GSL wins well grats on exploting 3gate voidray allins,4gate PvP and N-gate timings rly a true champion who can deny that.. Seriously don't try to defend this guy cuz he is a joke and you spit in the face in all those who play day after day to improve their game by having a better macro,micro,strat then to exploit some retard timing attacks. Wow, I've never seen such a large concentration of horrible troll and abject stupidity in one post. Grats on your epic failure on every conceivable level. I'm not a troll thats just my opinion...if you think its wrong ok but you can't deny that after he got droped out by Polt in up&down he hasn't won anything. Starswar tournament? 2nd at IEM and NASL? 3rd at homestory cup and MLG? Highest winrate and best performing protoss even since his slump? Yeah he is just bad at this game. trolllllllllllllll Lol don't comepre those tours with the GSL.....and all those are not 1st places yeah he won the starwars thingy vs some dudes who never played vs KR metagame. You guys are just blind to what is happening and you just defend someone who you like ok thats fine but you will see that MinChul The suicide toss will disappear from the top spots not because the game is imba or something its because he fails to run with the other top dogs.Because he didn't improve at all this 1year of SC2 yes he knows some new builds his micro is good for SC2 level but he still has the same mindset and relays on what worked before if you compere him to lets say someone who had a simllar simallar play style like Polt for example he was 1/2basing terran BiTBYBIT style depending on his allins and timing attacks but look at him now he has 1champ he has legit macro and he is rly smart so look in that prespective and understand my point. I don't know what you are talking about Teaja his TvP beeing good he fails to scout tech switches and doesn't know when to attack at all so yes i think his tvp is medicore comepred to (PuMa,Bomber,MVP,Polt) . And you based Taeja's TvP off a BO1 between him and MC? Okay. At least he doesn't 1/1/1 all day, every day like Puma. Watch the ESV TV Korean Weekly, and you'll see why Taeja's TvP is considered "good." (Hint: ghost control.) Also, Polt's macro isn't that great. It's not bad by all means, but there's a reason why he likes timing attacks so much, and there's a reason why he consistently gets beat by macro players.
His macro is decent he rolled MMA,Ryung who is a TvT sniper,KongPrime and Alicia i think in the SuperTour so his macro is decent. Even in his games vs MVP he was doing smart stuff and playing well not missing anything just bad decision making lost him the game just like the TOP games. I judge Taeja TvP by what i saw and yes on those weeklys he gets rolled watch him vs Puzzle on that funky ICCUP map where he sees blink stalkers and does nothing lol or on Katrina where his command center is binded with his army and his runing around with it while the other base is dying so maybe he is not that good as you think.
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On September 08 2011 07:15 Severus_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2011 07:10 babylon wrote:On September 08 2011 06:57 Severus_ wrote:On September 08 2011 06:39 Olinim wrote:On September 08 2011 06:37 Severus_ wrote:On September 08 2011 06:33 Olinim wrote:On September 08 2011 06:28 Severus_ wrote:On September 08 2011 05:17 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On September 08 2011 04:53 Severus_ wrote:
Yes MC in Code A got tired of everybody defending this guy he is so bad... Seriously? The guy with the most prize money in sc2 drops down to code A and you think is that bad? Then who is actually good? Yes most prize money =/= the best in the world, but surely you can't constantly win money being "So Bad". Are you joking ? The only reason he won those champs because he exploited the new things in the game people catch on with his retarted timing attacks and he has nothing. He can't macro to save his life most of his games are gambles when was the last time you watched some of his games and said LOL that some solid play ? Because every time i watch Nestea,Bomber,MVP and some of the others players (Losira,Puzzle,Bomber,DGR) in their specific matchups i'm amazed and think to myself this is unbeatble and don't tell me recent MC vs Puma 2 finals because the NASL one all his wins were allins and the terminus game was fail 4gate into cuting probes for robo. The IEM one was complete roflstomp from PuMa....even in his games in Code S were jokes vs MVP he scouts tank,marine hard contain and insted of droping gates and rolling it with better upgrades and gateway pumps he gets colo from 2 base that cuts his gateway count and he gets contained to his death. Even in team league he is a joke and fails his team the game vs Revival on terminus proves that how he always gambe and gets roflstomped. Yes he got 2 wins from Taeja and Ryung who are medicore in their TvP at best Taeja didn't scout any tech in his game and Ryung is a T sniper. About his GSL wins well grats on exploting 3gate voidray allins,4gate PvP and N-gate timings rly a true champion who can deny that.. Seriously don't try to defend this guy cuz he is a joke and you spit in the face in all those who play day after day to improve their game by having a better macro,micro,strat then to exploit some retard timing attacks. Wow, I've never seen such a large concentration of horrible troll and abject stupidity in one post. Grats on your epic failure on every conceivable level. I'm not a troll thats just my opinion...if you think its wrong ok but you can't deny that after he got droped out by Polt in up&down he hasn't won anything. Starswar tournament? 2nd at IEM and NASL? 3rd at homestory cup and MLG? Highest winrate and best performing protoss even since his slump? Yeah he is just bad at this game. trolllllllllllllll Lol don't comepre those tours with the GSL.....and all those are not 1st places yeah he won the starwars thingy vs some dudes who never played vs KR metagame. You guys are just blind to what is happening and you just defend someone who you like ok thats fine but you will see that MinChul The suicide toss will disappear from the top spots not because the game is imba or something its because he fails to run with the other top dogs.Because he didn't improve at all this 1year of SC2 yes he knows some new builds his micro is good for SC2 level but he still has the same mindset and relays on what worked before if you compere him to lets say someone who had a simllar simallar play style like Polt for example he was 1/2basing terran BiTBYBIT style depending on his allins and timing attacks but look at him now he has 1champ he has legit macro and he is rly smart so look in that prespective and understand my point. I don't know what you are talking about Teaja his TvP beeing good he fails to scout tech switches and doesn't know when to attack at all so yes i think his tvp is medicore comepred to (PuMa,Bomber,MVP,Polt) . And you based Taeja's TvP off a BO1 between him and MC? Okay. At least he doesn't 1/1/1 all day, every day like Puma. Watch the ESV TV Korean Weekly, and you'll see why Taeja's TvP is considered "good." (Hint: ghost control.) Also, Polt's macro isn't that great. It's not bad by all means, but there's a reason why he likes timing attacks so much, and there's a reason why he consistently gets beat by macro players. His macro is decent he rolled MMA,Ryung who is a TvT sniper,KongPrime and Alicia i think in the SuperTour so his macro is decent. Even in his games vs MVP he was doing smart stuff and playing well not missing anything just bad decision making lost him the game just like the TOP games. I judge Taeja TvP by what i saw and yes on those weeklys he gets rolled watch him vs Puzzle on that funky ICCUP map where he sees blink stalkers and does nothing lol or on Katrina where his command center is binded with his army and his runing around with it while the other base is dying so maybe he is not that good as you think.
http://images.challonge.com/koreanweekly8.png (The latest one.)
Got rolled. Hahah. More like Puzzle got ghost-sniped.
As for Polt: There is a reason why all the players he rolled in the ST are not known as macro Terrans (except for TOP, who still managed to almost take him out).
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On September 08 2011 04:57 Olinim wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2011 04:54 babylon wrote:On September 08 2011 04:51 Olinim wrote:On September 08 2011 04:50 babylon wrote:On September 08 2011 04:40 Olinim wrote:On September 08 2011 04:39 aresendez88 wrote:On September 08 2011 04:32 Olinim wrote:On September 08 2011 04:29 pt wrote:On September 08 2011 02:14 Olinim wrote:On September 08 2011 02:09 proot wrote:
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People like you crack me up. You can't see that MC has not been playing well recently. You can't see that MC did not play well today. The worst part of your mentality is, you're so convinced protoss is a shitty race that you can't factor in the skills of other players when they win.
And sorry, MC wouldn't have won a championship as terran. He won his championship off of 4 gate and timing attacks that were very unknown at the time. Once players figured him out, he started losing quite a bit. Sure, he'd be good, but the best? The guy barely cut it as a progamer in BW. Don't get me wrong, he's talented, but obviously way less talented than players like mvp, losira, and puzzle.
Less talented than puzzle and losira who have only won code a? get the hell out. Seriously what has puzzle done? MC is the only person who innovated protoss at all. The only protoss to win GSL. MC IS protoss. It isn't about results. Its about skill. Only way to actually measure skill when we're debating over a forum. You can say "lol puzzle is so much more skilled...I see it in the way he plays..." I disagree and remind you that MC is the most successful sc2 player so far, and your opinion about losira/puzzles talent really becomes meaningless in the face of actual results :/ MC WAS the most successful SC2 player a few months ago. Since his peak he has since been passed up in titles both at home in Korea and abroad by Nestea and MVP who are both playing much better and consistently than he is. We're talking overall. He still has the most money and most major tournament placings/winnings. He still is the most successful player so far. Also MVP has 1 international title....how has he passed up MC "abroad" If tournament winnings were an accurate way to measure skill, one would still think that Moon is the best player in the world in WC3 currently, but he's not even the best NE in Korea. Just saying. Anyways, I don't think that Protoss players are any worse than the Protoss or Zerg players, more that the race itself is badly designed so that you can't really ... do much with it, if that makes any sense at all. However, never fear, things are looking up! Protoss players and Zerg players completely outnumber the Terran players in Code A. Additionally, the following looks promising: On September 08 2011 04:02 Toadvine wrote:I was intrigued by this, and went through the rosters of major KR teams on TLPD, just tallying up the numbers of each race. I don't necessarily think this is the right sample space, perhaps something like Korean GM would be better? In any case, it comes down to the following: Terran: 60 Protoss: 55 Zerg: 48 Total: 163 Which gives a 37/34/29 distribution, percentage-wise. One interesting fact I've noted, skimming through those player lists, is that most of the Terran names are known to me, and are either in Code S or Code A, while I haven't even heard of a lot of the Protoss players. So yeah, we might not get any more Terrans in GSL, because the pro teams simply don't have any more.  I imagine the teams try to maintain a healthy race distribution for practice purposes, so unless they go on a crazy Terran shopping spree, we might reach a "Code S for Terrans, Code A for the other races" balanced state. I didn't say MC was the best player overall... I said he was the most successful. I thought this was you? On September 08 2011 04:32 Olinim wrote:
Only way to actually measure skill when we're debating over a forum. You can say "lol puzzle is so much more skilled...I see it in the way he plays..." I disagree and remind you that MC is the most successful sc2 player so far, and your opinion about losira/puzzles talent really becomes meaningless in the face of actual results :/ It's not perfect but when you're arguing over a forum there isn't much else. It's not like there is some giant obvious skill difference between MC and puzzle and all I'm saying is there is a reason why MC has won 210k and puzzle has won 1k.
Then it is irrelevant?
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thank god Kyrix and MC are out of Code S. They are just so bad compared to the rest in Code S..MC is especially overrated..kyrix is just simply bad lol.
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Who do i follow now that MC is gone? Who will be the next protoss to rise up and lead us?
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On September 08 2011 05:39 Chriscras wrote:
LETS GET IT GU GU GU ... GU GU GU!
Man waking up to 15 up/down matches (*accompanying hand gesture*) is better than Christmas <3
Seriously. My first thought was the Gom palyer was bugging out again like Day-1 showing game 7 twice (I had to watch Byun-Supernova from NeoTv =( ).
Then it slowly dawned on me that it was tiebreakers, and the games today were all really good (aside from Kyrix's... poor Kyrix)!
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seeems every former champion has been in code-a once except for nestea.
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On September 08 2011 08:12 W2 wrote:
Who do i follow now that MC is gone? Who will be the next protoss to rise up and lead us?
Hongun Prime. (o.o)
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I guess Fenix's victory isn't a fluke after all, MC slumping very hard.
Good job to Losira and jjaki
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On September 08 2011 08:18 QTIP. wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2011 08:12 W2 wrote:
Who do i follow now that MC is gone? Who will be the next protoss to rise up and lead us? Hongun Prime. (o.o)
HongUn will be the new Revolutionist?!?
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It's really fun to see MC's unmatched success in SC2 to bring out the bitter anti fan in so many trolls.
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What a surprise? Another protoss down to code A -_-
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On September 08 2011 08:23 amazingoopah wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2011 08:18 QTIP. wrote:On September 08 2011 08:12 W2 wrote:
Who do i follow now that MC is gone? Who will be the next protoss to rise up and lead us? Hongun Prime. (o.o) HongUn will be the new Revolutionist?!?
Give Genius more time. He has been perfecting the inbase proxy void ray rush that will destroy everyone next season.
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On September 08 2011 08:55 Swad1000 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2011 08:23 amazingoopah wrote:On September 08 2011 08:18 QTIP. wrote:On September 08 2011 08:12 W2 wrote:
Who do i follow now that MC is gone? Who will be the next protoss to rise up and lead us? Hongun Prime. (o.o) HongUn will be the new Revolutionist?!? Give Genius more time. He has been perfecting the inbase proxy void ray rush that will destroy everyone next season.
I am still waiting for Choya to re-qualify for the GSL so he can show us his gosu builds.
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On September 08 2011 07:58 Gackt_ wrote:
thank god Kyrix and MC are out of Code S. They are just so bad compared to the rest in Code S..MC is especially overrated..kyrix is just simply bad lol.
Whoa there.. calling a two-time GSL champion bad...
Everyone goes through slumps. Let us not forget that MVP went down to Code A as well.. I think he'll rebound. Incoming patches won't hurt either.
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On September 08 2011 07:15 Severus_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2011 07:10 babylon wrote:On September 08 2011 06:57 Severus_ wrote:On September 08 2011 06:39 Olinim wrote:On September 08 2011 06:37 Severus_ wrote:On September 08 2011 06:33 Olinim wrote:On September 08 2011 06:28 Severus_ wrote:On September 08 2011 05:17 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On September 08 2011 04:53 Severus_ wrote:
Yes MC in Code A got tired of everybody defending this guy he is so bad... Seriously? The guy with the most prize money in sc2 drops down to code A and you think is that bad? Then who is actually good? Yes most prize money =/= the best in the world, but surely you can't constantly win money being "So Bad". Are you joking ? The only reason he won those champs because he exploited the new things in the game people catch on with his retarted timing attacks and he has nothing. He can't macro to save his life most of his games are gambles when was the last time you watched some of his games and said LOL that some solid play ? Because every time i watch Nestea,Bomber,MVP and some of the others players (Losira,Puzzle,Bomber,DGR) in their specific matchups i'm amazed and think to myself this is unbeatble and don't tell me recent MC vs Puma 2 finals because the NASL one all his wins were allins and the terminus game was fail 4gate into cuting probes for robo. The IEM one was complete roflstomp from PuMa....even in his games in Code S were jokes vs MVP he scouts tank,marine hard contain and insted of droping gates and rolling it with better upgrades and gateway pumps he gets colo from 2 base that cuts his gateway count and he gets contained to his death. Even in team league he is a joke and fails his team the game vs Revival on terminus proves that how he always gambe and gets roflstomped. Yes he got 2 wins from Taeja and Ryung who are medicore in their TvP at best Taeja didn't scout any tech in his game and Ryung is a T sniper. About his GSL wins well grats on exploting 3gate voidray allins,4gate PvP and N-gate timings rly a true champion who can deny that.. Seriously don't try to defend this guy cuz he is a joke and you spit in the face in all those who play day after day to improve their game by having a better macro,micro,strat then to exploit some retard timing attacks. Wow, I've never seen such a large concentration of horrible troll and abject stupidity in one post. Grats on your epic failure on every conceivable level. I'm not a troll thats just my opinion...if you think its wrong ok but you can't deny that after he got droped out by Polt in up&down he hasn't won anything. Starswar tournament? 2nd at IEM and NASL? 3rd at homestory cup and MLG? Highest winrate and best performing protoss even since his slump? Yeah he is just bad at this game. trolllllllllllllll Lol don't comepre those tours with the GSL.....and all those are not 1st places yeah he won the starwars thingy vs some dudes who never played vs KR metagame. You guys are just blind to what is happening and you just defend someone who you like ok thats fine but you will see that MinChul The suicide toss will disappear from the top spots not because the game is imba or something its because he fails to run with the other top dogs.Because he didn't improve at all this 1year of SC2 yes he knows some new builds his micro is good for SC2 level but he still has the same mindset and relays on what worked before if you compere him to lets say someone who had a simllar simallar play style like Polt for example he was 1/2basing terran BiTBYBIT style depending on his allins and timing attacks but look at him now he has 1champ he has legit macro and he is rly smart so look in that prespective and understand my point. I don't know what you are talking about Teaja his TvP beeing good he fails to scout tech switches and doesn't know when to attack at all so yes i think his tvp is medicore comepred to (PuMa,Bomber,MVP,Polt) . And you based Taeja's TvP off a BO1 between him and MC? Okay. At least he doesn't 1/1/1 all day, every day like Puma. Watch the ESV TV Korean Weekly, and you'll see why Taeja's TvP is considered "good." (Hint: ghost control.) Also, Polt's macro isn't that great. It's not bad by all means, but there's a reason why he likes timing attacks so much, and there's a reason why he consistently gets beat by macro players. His macro is decent he rolled MMA,Ryung who is a TvT sniper,KongPrime and Alicia i think in the SuperTour so his macro is decent. Even in his games vs MVP he was doing smart stuff and playing well not missing anything just bad decision making lost him the game just like the TOP games. I judge Taeja TvP by what i saw and yes on those weeklys he gets rolled watch him vs Puzzle on that funky ICCUP map where he sees blink stalkers and does nothing lol or on Katrina where his command center is binded with his army and his runing around with it while the other base is dying so maybe he is not that good as you think.
MVP got knocked to code A and now he is in another final. No need to bash a player like MC. Name me another Korean Protoss that has had the same success or higher? Since you say that he jsut won because he exploited a strat.
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On September 08 2011 07:15 Severus_ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2011 07:10 babylon wrote:On September 08 2011 06:57 Severus_ wrote:On September 08 2011 06:39 Olinim wrote:On September 08 2011 06:37 Severus_ wrote:On September 08 2011 06:33 Olinim wrote:On September 08 2011 06:28 Severus_ wrote:On September 08 2011 05:17 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On September 08 2011 04:53 Severus_ wrote:
Yes MC in Code A got tired of everybody defending this guy he is so bad... Seriously? The guy with the most prize money in sc2 drops down to code A and you think is that bad? Then who is actually good? Yes most prize money =/= the best in the world, but surely you can't constantly win money being "So Bad". Are you joking ? The only reason he won those champs because he exploited the new things in the game people catch on with his retarted timing attacks and he has nothing. He can't macro to save his life most of his games are gambles when was the last time you watched some of his games and said LOL that some solid play ? Because every time i watch Nestea,Bomber,MVP and some of the others players (Losira,Puzzle,Bomber,DGR) in their specific matchups i'm amazed and think to myself this is unbeatble and don't tell me recent MC vs Puma 2 finals because the NASL one all his wins were allins and the terminus game was fail 4gate into cuting probes for robo. The IEM one was complete roflstomp from PuMa....even in his games in Code S were jokes vs MVP he scouts tank,marine hard contain and insted of droping gates and rolling it with better upgrades and gateway pumps he gets colo from 2 base that cuts his gateway count and he gets contained to his death. Even in team league he is a joke and fails his team the game vs Revival on terminus proves that how he always gambe and gets roflstomped. Yes he got 2 wins from Taeja and Ryung who are medicore in their TvP at best Taeja didn't scout any tech in his game and Ryung is a T sniper. About his GSL wins well grats on exploting 3gate voidray allins,4gate PvP and N-gate timings rly a true champion who can deny that.. Seriously don't try to defend this guy cuz he is a joke and you spit in the face in all those who play day after day to improve their game by having a better macro,micro,strat then to exploit some retard timing attacks. Wow, I've never seen such a large concentration of horrible troll and abject stupidity in one post. Grats on your epic failure on every conceivable level. I'm not a troll thats just my opinion...if you think its wrong ok but you can't deny that after he got droped out by Polt in up&down he hasn't won anything. Starswar tournament? 2nd at IEM and NASL? 3rd at homestory cup and MLG? Highest winrate and best performing protoss even since his slump? Yeah he is just bad at this game. trolllllllllllllll Lol don't comepre those tours with the GSL.....and all those are not 1st places yeah he won the starwars thingy vs some dudes who never played vs KR metagame. You guys are just blind to what is happening and you just defend someone who you like ok thats fine but you will see that MinChul The suicide toss will disappear from the top spots not because the game is imba or something its because he fails to run with the other top dogs.Because he didn't improve at all this 1year of SC2 yes he knows some new builds his micro is good for SC2 level but he still has the same mindset and relays on what worked before if you compere him to lets say someone who had a simllar simallar play style like Polt for example he was 1/2basing terran BiTBYBIT style depending on his allins and timing attacks but look at him now he has 1champ he has legit macro and he is rly smart so look in that prespective and understand my point. I don't know what you are talking about Teaja his TvP beeing good he fails to scout tech switches and doesn't know when to attack at all so yes i think his tvp is medicore comepred to (PuMa,Bomber,MVP,Polt) . And you based Taeja's TvP off a BO1 between him and MC? Okay. At least he doesn't 1/1/1 all day, every day like Puma. Watch the ESV TV Korean Weekly, and you'll see why Taeja's TvP is considered "good." (Hint: ghost control.) Also, Polt's macro isn't that great. It's not bad by all means, but there's a reason why he likes timing attacks so much, and there's a reason why he consistently gets beat by macro players. His macro is decent he rolled MMA,Ryung who is a TvT sniper,KongPrime and Alicia i think in the SuperTour so his macro is decent. Even in his games vs MVP he was doing smart stuff and playing well not missing anything just bad decision making lost him the game just like the TOP games. I judge Taeja TvP by what i saw and yes on those weeklys he gets rolled watch him vs Puzzle on that funky ICCUP map where he sees blink stalkers and does nothing lol or on Katrina where his command center is binded with his army and his runing around with it while the other base is dying so maybe he is not that good as you think.
DO you underrstand the word macro? It has nothing to do with beating players or doing smart things. Polts macro is prob. the worst of any code s player (control however is in the top 5), as he is really bad a building svs.
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LOSIRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. I don't know what I would've done if you went to Code A. Surprised that Check played that well, good for him. A small run through code A will do MC good. He's been traveling too much. He needs to hunker down and practice.
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