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On August 19 2011 03:14 5ukkub wrote: OK so i just got from work and i REALLLY want to see the games. Are there any VODs or sth available?
(DO NOT SPOL THE RESULTS PLZ)
http://tv.esl.eu/de/vod/ Vods will be available here soon. Right now only for premium-member! And rerun is being played also right now @ IEM Main Stage-Stream
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On August 19 2011 03:18 Jayrod wrote: Its funny how the europeans get on here and post ESL and craft cup and crap like that and think it means something. Mana's problem has always been inconsistency. When he's on, he's very good, but sometimes he looks incredibly outclassed. As with everyone else, lets see how he fares against Koreans in a GSL environment. Beating a code B Korean in one match doesn't mean a thing.
Though I refer to him as a code B terran he is a strong player. MC was afraid of him for NASL he even mentioned. MC, the unrealistically cocky player was afraid of Puma, which definitely says something about how he's viewed on the korean scene
Not sure what you are refering to, but if you're talking about Mana's achievement you obviously forgetting to runner ups in dreamhack winter and assembly.... also he was not that bad in ipl2
about his inconsistency he was always a pvt specialist and his pvp was average while he was terrible at pvz ( kind of like inca) but since he's been practicing with stephano and other good zergs a lot he owned the shit out of some top zergs lately. IM not sure if u really knows something about him
As for Puma, yes he's code B and I assume y khow hard it is to make it through code B, nevertheless we're talking about the nasl champion who fought his way through the open bracket with several top koreans and won the grand finals against MC, who was even kind of afraid of him because he knew, that puma is no pushover.
well the bottom line is that he completely outclassed puma today, so I'm not even sure why i wrote such a long post^^
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Wtf happened to huk?? vods anywhere?
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On August 19 2011 03:18 Jayrod wrote: Its funny how the europeans get on here and post ESL and craft cup and crap like that and think it means something. Mana's problem has always been inconsistency. When he's on, he's very good, but sometimes he looks incredibly outclassed. As with everyone else, lets see how he fares against Koreans in a GSL environment. Beating a code B Korean in one match doesn't mean a thing.
Though I refer to him as a code B terran he is a strong player. MC was afraid of him for NASL he even mentioned. MC, the unrealistically cocky player was afraid of Puma, which definitely says something about how he's viewed on the korean scene
Beating Puma in bo3 mean something, and those cups you mention aren't that funny, if u consider players of world caliber play them all the time, thats why player Nerchio being consistent in winning them actually is getting praised. Im not saying its equivalent to big tournaments, but its important piece of data you shouldn't dismiss.
Yes LAN is completely different story, but we could see that MaNa changed his playstyle,i dont agree with you about his inconsistency, imo he was always consistant in what he did, but his style was bad, lately he wins games he would never win with his old style. Yes his PvZ is still not even as good as his PvT even in slightest, but his PvT is world class. Which he proved AGAIN.
He improved, he beat HuK, Puma, NaDa, HasuObs, Morrow and few more in last 2-3 weeks. all was at least bo3.
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On August 19 2011 03:14 Yggydraseal wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 03:12 BlitzerSC wrote: The jetlag excuse is getting old. Puma got outplayed by MaNa. PERIOD. Agreed. People keep using it because their favorite players get blown out. Rather dumb IMO. Guys like you both clearly never had experienced any jetlag in your lifes. Otherwise you wouldn't say such silly comments.
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On August 19 2011 02:29 skrotcyk wrote: Sweden is way ahead of poland just look at recent battle.net eu invitational that even was IN poland
Hahaha... NOT.
As someone already mentioned - Naniwa does not make you 'way ahead', no other swede may take wins vs Nerchio,Tarson and MaNa. Not gonna make it country vs country flame battle, let the results speak for the players.
POLAND FIGHTING!!!11
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Just got back from work, looks like HuK is playing like EG now
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On August 19 2011 03:37 Behemoth.1337 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 02:29 skrotcyk wrote: Sweden is way ahead of poland just look at recent battle.net eu invitational that even was IN poland Hahaha... NOT. As someone already mentioned - Naniwa does not make you 'way ahead', no other swede may take wins vs Nerchio,Tarson and MaNa. Not gonna make it country vs country flame battle, let the results speak for the players. POLAND FIGHTING!!!11
morrow? thorzain? sase?
both countries are good
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On August 19 2011 03:39 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 03:37 Behemoth.1337 wrote:On August 19 2011 02:29 skrotcyk wrote: Sweden is way ahead of poland just look at recent battle.net eu invitational that even was IN poland Hahaha... NOT. As someone already mentioned - Naniwa does not make you 'way ahead', no other swede may take wins vs Nerchio,Tarson and MaNa. Not gonna make it country vs country flame battle, let the results speak for the players. POLAND FIGHTING!!!11 morrow? thorzain? sase? both countries are good amen, and add ukraine
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On August 19 2011 03:37 Behemoth.1337 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 02:29 skrotcyk wrote: Sweden is way ahead of poland just look at recent battle.net eu invitational that even was IN poland Hahaha... NOT. As someone already mentioned - Naniwa does not make you 'way ahead', no other swede may take wins vs Nerchio,Tarson and MaNa. Not gonna make it country vs country flame battle, let the results speak for the players. POLAND FIGHTING!!!11
i dont wanna intercept in this nationwa ^^ bc i love the players from both countries but I think at least Naniwa and Thorzain are still a tiny step ahead of the polish top, especially after they return from korea
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is this over for the day? cant decipher their schedule
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On August 19 2011 03:39 bgx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 03:39 travis wrote:On August 19 2011 03:37 Behemoth.1337 wrote:On August 19 2011 02:29 skrotcyk wrote: Sweden is way ahead of poland just look at recent battle.net eu invitational that even was IN poland Hahaha... NOT. As someone already mentioned - Naniwa does not make you 'way ahead', no other swede may take wins vs Nerchio,Tarson and MaNa. Not gonna make it country vs country flame battle, let the results speak for the players. POLAND FIGHTING!!!11 morrow? thorzain? sase? both countries are good amen, and add ukraine 
and germany and france and...emm. its all about the best country in europe and im sure its poland.
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On August 19 2011 03:40 AsnSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 03:37 Behemoth.1337 wrote:On August 19 2011 02:29 skrotcyk wrote: Sweden is way ahead of poland just look at recent battle.net eu invitational that even was IN poland Hahaha... NOT. As someone already mentioned - Naniwa does not make you 'way ahead', no other swede may take wins vs Nerchio,Tarson and MaNa. Not gonna make it country vs country flame battle, let the results speak for the players. POLAND FIGHTING!!!11 i dont wanna intercept in this nationwa ^^ bc i love the players from both countries but I think at least Naniwa and Thorzain are still a tiny step ahead of the polish top, especially after they return from korea
nani:yes.thorzain:no
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On August 19 2011 03:45 claash wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 03:40 AsnSensation wrote:On August 19 2011 03:37 Behemoth.1337 wrote:On August 19 2011 02:29 skrotcyk wrote: Sweden is way ahead of poland just look at recent battle.net eu invitational that even was IN poland Hahaha... NOT. As someone already mentioned - Naniwa does not make you 'way ahead', no other swede may take wins vs Nerchio,Tarson and MaNa. Not gonna make it country vs country flame battle, let the results speak for the players. POLAND FIGHTING!!!11 i dont wanna intercept in this nationwa ^^ bc i love the players from both countries but I think at least Naniwa and Thorzain are still a tiny step ahead of the polish top, especially after they return from korea nani:yes.thorzain:no
Thorzain -> Naniwa.. just about
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On August 19 2011 02:47 Jinivus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 02:45 mprs wrote:On August 19 2011 02:38 Jinivus wrote:On August 19 2011 02:22 bgx wrote: The #IEM #SC2 1/4 Finals are: MC - SeleCT MaNa - mOOnGlaDe Socke - Kas Nerchio - PuMa.
wow MC ezwin! Some upsets to look out for: MC > SeleCT Nerchio > PuMa I think Mana > mOOnGlaDe is obvious Socke vs Kas is pretty even, and I don't see Kas play often, and Socke has been invisible (even though he makes it to top 5 in every tournament). I say: SeleCT Mana Socke Nerchio Overrating Nerchio and Select IMO. They will get stomped :/. I don't know what leads you to believe Select will beat MC considering their last meeting.
MC's recent poor performance and SeleCT's recent sick performance (NA invitational and his play yesterday). Don't get me wrong, even with that in mind, I think MC has the nod to be the favorite. The point is I want a bracket that not everyone will pick but still somewhat reasonable. :S
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On August 19 2011 03:50 Tidus Mino wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 03:45 claash wrote:On August 19 2011 03:40 AsnSensation wrote:On August 19 2011 03:37 Behemoth.1337 wrote:On August 19 2011 02:29 skrotcyk wrote: Sweden is way ahead of poland just look at recent battle.net eu invitational that even was IN poland Hahaha... NOT. As someone already mentioned - Naniwa does not make you 'way ahead', no other swede may take wins vs Nerchio,Tarson and MaNa. Not gonna make it country vs country flame battle, let the results speak for the players. POLAND FIGHTING!!!11 i dont wanna intercept in this nationwa ^^ bc i love the players from both countries but I think at least Naniwa and Thorzain are still a tiny step ahead of the polish top, especially after they return from korea nani:yes.thorzain:no Thorzain -> Naniwa.. just about 
nope even thorre always said nani is better
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On August 19 2011 03:32 ZaaaaaM wrote: Wtf happened to huk?? vods anywhere? This. Can anyone give a quick summary? I'm surprised as is everyone else who wasn't here for the games to say the least.
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On August 19 2011 03:29 Nagano wrote: Damn, just woke up. What happened to HuK?!
He went from training with MC to training with Incontrol, we knew this was gonna happen.
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Watched replays of Nerchio vs Huk. + Show Spoiler +Nerchio was in total control all of the time in both games. Metalopolis nice contain with lings and later mutas. On Shakuras Nerchio consistently denied 3rd expand, while he got up to 6 bases. Last push was ling, roach, infestor, baneling in overlords with ultras building.
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