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antelope591
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada820 Posts
August 18 2011 18:10 GMT
#4521
Koreans pretty shaky in europe lately...select's gotten stomped by mc before but hes on a roll lately. Still dont see him winning but you never know. Wouldnt be an upset if nerchio won tho Puma hasnt looked so hot.
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
August 18 2011 18:12 GMT
#4522
The jetlag excuse is getting old. Puma got outplayed by MaNa. PERIOD.
durza
Profile Joined August 2009
United States667 Posts
August 18 2011 18:12 GMT
#4523
MC looks the clear favorite to win, but I'm not sure who will be facing him in the final, I could see puma losing to nerchio or socke/kas.
CaM27
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium392 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 18:13:03
August 18 2011 18:12 GMT
#4524
Does anyone know if there are vods?
Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
August 18 2011 18:12 GMT
#4525
Man I really wish IEM stuck the 2 losers of each group into a losers bracket. Kinda sucks for someone like Killer to fly all this way, do ok (2-1), and get knocked out of the competition on the first day. This group system is very unforgiving.
Artosis: "From horsssse....falcon"
NoRacial
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada18 Posts
August 18 2011 18:14 GMT
#4526
MC vs Puma would be nice, I would expect MC to get his revenge.

Yggydraseal
Profile Joined April 2011
United States285 Posts
August 18 2011 18:14 GMT
#4527
On August 19 2011 03:12 BlitzerSC wrote:
The jetlag excuse is getting old. Puma got outplayed by MaNa. PERIOD.


Agreed. People keep using it because their favorite players get blown out. Rather dumb IMO.
"The greatest athletes of all time... Michael Jordan, Roger Federer, and SlayerSBoxer." - Artosis
5ukkub
Profile Joined September 2009
Poland507 Posts
August 18 2011 18:14 GMT
#4528
OK so i just got from work and i REALLLY want to see the games. Are there any VODs or sth available?

(DO NOT SPOL THE RESULTS PLZ)
Rationalism - Don't take evereything what you hear as a fact! Thinking process makes us human.
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
August 18 2011 18:15 GMT
#4529
On August 19 2011 02:57 flowSthead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 02:11 Anzekay wrote:
On August 19 2011 02:04 rO_Or wrote:
On August 19 2011 02:03 Asha` wrote:
Is Dota 2 better to spectate/understand for complete nubs than LoL?

I want to learn a bit more about one or the other this week, but if Dota is easier I'll duck out and prep some dinner before Dota comes on.


No, LOL is much simpler, easier to learn. DOTA teams actually utilize complicated strategies. If you are a complete noob, LOL is your game.


Complete generalizations, LoL is not for 'complete noobs"- it's just a different and, yes, somewhat simpler game.

That doesn't mean it's just for 'noobs'. Playing it at the top level is still a very, very, difficult and taxing thing to do.

User was warned for this post


Why was this guy warned? He did not say anything wrong.


I'm also very curious as to why.
Bora Pain minha porra!
bobwhiz
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States725 Posts
August 18 2011 18:16 GMT
#4530
Nerchio and MC looking strong.

PvZ finals incoming?
I want Select to be there though. =(
Signatures are simply a cover for having no personality. -Kiante
TooN
Profile Joined February 2011
1046 Posts
August 18 2011 18:16 GMT
#4531
On August 19 2011 02:57 flowSthead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 02:11 Anzekay wrote:
On August 19 2011 02:04 rO_Or wrote:
On August 19 2011 02:03 Asha` wrote:
Is Dota 2 better to spectate/understand for complete nubs than LoL?

I want to learn a bit more about one or the other this week, but if Dota is easier I'll duck out and prep some dinner before Dota comes on.


No, LOL is much simpler, easier to learn. DOTA teams actually utilize complicated strategies. If you are a complete noob, LOL is your game.


Complete generalizations, LoL is not for 'complete noobs"- it's just a different and, yes, somewhat simpler game.

That doesn't mean it's just for 'noobs'. Playing it at the top level is still a very, very, difficult and taxing thing to do.

User was warned for this post


Why was this guy warned? He did not say anything wrong.


Yeah I was wondering that. Sometimes the warning goes to things that shouldn't get one and other times people get away with saying stupid hatred things.
Weemoed
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands741 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 18:17:48
August 18 2011 18:17 GMT
#4532
On August 19 2011 03:12 BlitzerSC wrote:
The jetlag excuse is getting old. Puma got outplayed by MaNa. PERIOD.


PuMa felt inconsistent to be honest. Stephano won his first game against PuMa in brilliant fashion and MaNa just outplayed PuMa in almost every way possible. On the other hand, the second and third game against Stephano PuMa looked very solid and a similar thing can be said for his games against SaSe although one should note that SaSe played just plain bad in this tournament.

So, I doubt PuMa will be able to win versus Nerchio.
Bring me to space, and let me wander there forever
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
August 18 2011 18:18 GMT
#4533
Damn these quarter finals are gonna be sick.
Jayrod
Profile Joined August 2010
1820 Posts
August 18 2011 18:18 GMT
#4534
Its funny how the europeans get on here and post ESL and craft cup and crap like that and think it means something. Mana's problem has always been inconsistency. When he's on, he's very good, but sometimes he looks incredibly outclassed. As with everyone else, lets see how he fares against Koreans in a GSL environment. Beating a code B Korean in one match doesn't mean a thing.

Though I refer to him as a code B terran he is a strong player. MC was afraid of him for NASL he even mentioned. MC, the unrealistically cocky player was afraid of Puma, which definitely says something about how he's viewed on the korean scene
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
August 18 2011 18:23 GMT
#4535
On August 19 2011 03:12 BlitzerSC wrote:
The jetlag excuse is getting old. Puma got outplayed by MaNa. PERIOD.

Puma did get outplayed, you're right.

That doesn't change the fact that jet lag affects a pro's ability to play. I have no idea on Puma's situation in particular, but jet lag absolutely can be an issue for people flying around the world and to rule it out as a possible problem is as silly as saying that it's the only explanation for a loss.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
5ukkub
Profile Joined September 2009
Poland507 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 18:28:04
August 18 2011 18:24 GMT
#4536
On August 19 2011 03:18 Jayrod wrote:
Its funny how the europeans get on here and post ESL and craft cup and crap like that and think it means something. Mana's problem has always been inconsistency. When he's on, he's very good, but sometimes he looks incredibly outclassed. As with everyone else, lets see how he fares against Koreans in a GSL environment. Beating a code B Korean in one match doesn't mean a thing.

Though I refer to him as a code B terran he is a strong player. MC was afraid of him for NASL he even mentioned. MC, the unrealistically cocky player was afraid of Puma, which definitely says something about how he's viewed on the korean scene


MaNa, Nerchio are sooooo young!
You have to remember, that they have school for 10 months, so it limits their practice time.
Since it's vacation time, they've had A LOT time to practice (we could assume they practiced 5-8 hours a day for 1,5 month time), so it's THE time that we can see their true potential.

If they would go to Korea, they would have MUCH MORE time to practice. Who knows how good they would be... I bet they could hang out in Code S for quite some time
Rationalism - Don't take evereything what you hear as a fact! Thinking process makes us human.
Fig
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1324 Posts
August 18 2011 18:26 GMT
#4537
On August 19 2011 03:18 Jayrod wrote:
Its funny how the europeans get on here and post ESL and craft cup and crap like that and think it means something. Mana's problem has always been inconsistency. When he's on, he's very good, but sometimes he looks incredibly outclassed. As with everyone else, lets see how he fares against Koreans in a GSL environment. Beating a code B Korean in one match doesn't mean a thing.

Though I refer to him as a code B terran he is a strong player. MC was afraid of him for NASL he even mentioned. MC, the unrealistically cocky player was afraid of Puma, which definitely says something about how he's viewed on the korean scene

At NASL MC was saying he was afraid of Puma because he taught Puma how to play TvP, so Puma knew all of his secrets. I'm sure he has some new strong tactics for this next encounter if it happens. And I can't wait for him to show them to me! haha
Can't elope with my cantaloupe
knL
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany400 Posts
August 18 2011 18:28 GMT
#4538
Its also no true that mana is inconsistent. He just had a totaly bad pvz in PvP and PvT he already owned everything a long time.
Nagano
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1157 Posts
August 18 2011 18:29 GMT
#4539
Damn, just woke up. What happened to HuK?!
“The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn.”
hellraiser1110
Profile Joined November 2010
Croatia70 Posts
August 18 2011 18:30 GMT
#4540
I love how HuK got raepd, nothing personal I just like watching him lose. Also Stephano outplayed Puma in game one idk how he lost the other 2 so convincingly, he was probably amazed by himself :D
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