[GSL] August Code A RO32 Day 1 - Page 145

Not uhm...
You cant do two things at once, you can just do them in quick succession.
Multitasking doesnt mean that you can do multiple things at ONCE, it just means that you can do multiple things more or less at the same time without forgetting about them.
If he is continously microing his units, there is no room for something else, unless he skips 1 second of micro for 1 second of macro --> this is multitasking.

Expanding takes a second, macroing takes maybe 2 seconds inbetween your micro and dropping takes maybe 3-5 seconds (depending on how fast you are).
Everything out of this world.

Humans arent really capable of real multitasking except for breathing and thinking at the same time (maybe while scratching their head, but thats it).

Scribble

2077 Posts

August 08 2011 10:49 GMT

#2883

On August 08 2011 19:48 The KY wrote:

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e-Bushido!

Or...Bush-e-do.

Fionn

United States23455 Posts

August 08 2011 10:49 GMT

#2884

MVP_FinalBoss

Make it so, MVP coach.

stipe145

764 Posts

August 08 2011 10:49 GMT

#2885

Do not make a poll...do not make a poll...do not make a poll.

Ocedic

United States1808 Posts

August 08 2011 10:49 GMT

#2886

On August 08 2011 19:47 Dfgj wrote:

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If you think the skill used by Taeja and required to prepare in game 1 and game 3 was anywhere near comparable you're deluding yourself.

You know what takes skill? Winning. There's some Zerg-propaganda influenced mindset that macro games 'take more skill.' In Brood War, yes. But in SC2 macro is so easy that I basically laugh in your face at that notion. It's just an excuse for greedy players to look down on rushes and cheeses so they have an excuse when they aren't prepared for those.

Hierarch

United States2197 Posts

August 08 2011 10:50 GMT

#2887

The infamous protoss ghost opening!

Loire

Singapore1358 Posts

August 08 2011 10:50 GMT

#2888

gogo DRG!!

corpsepose

1678 Posts

August 08 2011 10:50 GMT

#2889

"... the other invisible guy"

Telcontar

United Kingdom16710 Posts

August 08 2011 10:50 GMT

#2890

Damn that InCa, trying to get ghosts.....

itsjuspeter

United States668 Posts

August 08 2011 10:50 GMT

#2891

On August 08 2011 19:46 fant0m wrote:

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Sadly a LOT of SC2 players feel that way. Especially Zerg (and by the way I play Z now, I switched races this summer). People like Psy, Destiny, and Idra think that anyone who comes with a push before 15 minutes isn't playing the game "properly."

What am i dictating? I've read all your posts and you're just another cynical f**, I don't want to waste any more time than I already will be by responding to you Ocedic, I merely stated that the 1/1/1 is an extremely viable way to kill protoss but by no means the ONLY way, we have never stated that you need that to beat us. whether I feel it to be less of a day killer that I get cheesed out or outmacro'd is my own choice, stop reading too much into what people say and inciting negative feelings, you're scum.

Goibon

New Zealand8185 Posts

August 08 2011 10:50 GMT

#2892

Come on DRG. Unleash some pain please.

fuzzy_panda

New Zealand1681 Posts

August 08 2011 10:50 GMT

#2893

ah yes Inca's ghost opening of course

Chibithor

Brazil514 Posts

August 08 2011 10:50 GMT

#2894

On August 08 2011 19:50 Hierarch wrote:
The infamous protoss ghost opening!

Inca is so good he goes ghosts in PvZ

Sabu113

United States11087 Posts

August 08 2011 10:50 GMT

#2895

On August 08 2011 19:49 Ocedic wrote:

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Hey Babybit learned english :D

Akhee

Brazil811 Posts

August 08 2011 10:50 GMT

#2896

On August 08 2011 19:49 gh0un wrote:

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Not uhm...
You cant do two things at once, you can just do them in quick succession.
Multitasking doesnt mean that you can do multiple things at ONCE, it just means that you can do multiple things more or less at the same time without forgetting about them.
If he is continously microing his units, there is no room for something else, unless he skips 1 second of micro for 1 second of macro --> this is multitasking.

Humans arent really capable of real multitasking except for breathing and thinking at the same time (maybe while scratching their head, but thats it).

oh, nice explanation gh0un, you said what i tried to say

zeru

8156 Posts

August 08 2011 10:50 GMT

#2897

--- Nuked ---

klops

United States674 Posts

August 08 2011 10:50 GMT

#2898

inca is nervous as shit

Fionn

United States23455 Posts

August 08 2011 10:50 GMT

#2899

Inca looks like Calm.

Both overly manicured.

HolyArrow

United States7116 Posts

August 08 2011 10:51 GMT

#2900

On August 08 2011 19:47 Ocedic wrote:

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On August 08 2011 19:45 HolyArrow wrote:

On August 08 2011 19:40 Ocedic wrote:

On August 08 2011 19:38 HolyArrow wrote:

On August 08 2011 19:31 Ocedic wrote:

On August 08 2011 19:26 HolyArrow wrote:

On August 08 2011 19:24 Ocedic wrote:

On August 08 2011 19:21 HolyArrow wrote:

On August 08 2011 19:18 Ocedic wrote:

On August 08 2011 19:15 dani` wrote:
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Are you saying it is not? In every bo3 TvP it's used at least once by the Terran and it's a win :D

Did you read what I said? Remember back when 5 rax reaper was viable (pre reaper nerf)? It was used virtually EVERY game. If the strategy WAS uncounterable it would be used EVERY game.

It's not, so you're wrong. Stop whining and get better.

Some maps aren't good to 1-1-1 on. Your logic is stupid. You're basically saying, "It's not used in 100% of the games, therefore, it's not uncounterable, l2p". For one thing, most people here don't think it's uncounterable, but just that the skill and effort that takes to counter it far outstrips the skill and effort needed to execute it. And it IS used very, very often, with a very high winrate. Maybe you should go tell Puzzle and SangHo to stop whining and get better since I also saw them complaining about it, and they're not even known for QQ.

Maybe they should stop QQ? There are numerous examples throughout BROOD WAR history where matchups were considered much one sided, then someone (Boxer, Bisu, JulyZerg, Savior, etc) came along and shook up the entire matchup with something new.

But no, modern gamers can't be bothered with that. Let's just cry for nerfs every time a strategy is 'too hard' to counter.

Okay, so basically, you're calling upon historical precedent of a different, arguably better-designed game to justify telling pros to shut up and learn to play. You realize that 1-1-1 has been around for a year, right? It's not a hot new strategy that's taking people by surprise. People have had plenty of time to figure out good counters.

So then you are in favor of nerfing/buffing around flavor of the month builds? 1-1-1 has been around for a while but it only recently came back (it was gone for a few months.) I mean, did you watch the game? Taeja had 14 marines, 3 tanks and 2 bansshees against 3 stalkers and 3 sentries. You saying it's overpowered that the T force wins against 6 units?

Might I recommend you start playing the novice maps, there are rocks that prevent rushes so you can play as greedy as you like.

Your last statement is funny because you imply that I'm some terrible noob who needs novice maps, yet, a fast expansion (what I'm assuming your statement about being "greedy" is aimed at) is actually agreed upon by many good Toss players to be the best way to deal with 1-1-1. So who's the one who doesn't understand the game? Oh, and Tails had more than just 3 stalkers and 3 sentries, so maybe you're the one that needs to watch more carefully... Implying someone else's ignorance while simultaneously being ignorant yourself doesn't... really work.

Hearsay isn't a good arugment, especially when you don't even cite your sources. 'Many good Toss players' agree with you? I can do the same thing, many good non-Protoss players disagree with you.

Also, first you claim no counter to the strategy exists, now you say there is a way to deal with it. Make up your mind, balance whiner!

Where did I claim that no counter exists? Strawman harder, dude. I feel like I've effectively communicated that there are counters, but they're not very consistent. I said right there in one of my posts embedded in that big quote tree: "For one thing, most people here don't think it's uncounterable, but just that the skill and effort that takes to counter it far outstrips the skill and effort needed to execute it." Read more carefully.

I didn't cite my sources because I actually don't feel like putting that much effort into arguing with someone like you - this "hearsay" I talk about is just observing 1-1-1 discussion in LR threads. I could ask right here in this LR thread what experienced Protoss players think is a proper counter to 1-1-1, and I'm pretty sure that what they say would match up with what I'm claiming works. But I don't think that would convince you either, because then you'd play one of two cards:

1. There's no proof that the players in the LR thread are experienced Toss players
2. Players in an LR thread aren't enough numerically to constitute "many good Toss players".

Thanks for countering your own arguments for me. So basically you admit you don't have an actual argument and thus don't back up your claims. Got it. Either cite your sources (waiting on these 'good Protoss' quotes) or don't make shit up.

I'm not making shit up. I'm sitting here knowing that I'm right, laughing at how ignorant you are. This is one of those situations where I know something to be a truth, and I'm watching someone act as contrary and aggressive as possible, while crossing his arms telling me to prove that truth - but, your attitude makes me not care enough to bother proving anything to you, so I'm just sitting here, slightly annoyed but mostly amused by your sheer ignorance.

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