NASL Grand Finals Day 2 - Page 541

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KimJongChill

United States6429 Posts

July 10 2011 02:11 GMT

#10801

On July 10 2011 11:09 oskarla wrote:
Will the next game start in 50 minutes? It's already 4am here and if that's the case I'll probably go to bed now.

stay up buddy, you can sleep when you're dead haha :b

intense33

France93 Posts

July 10 2011 02:11 GMT

#10802

When it starts please?

pAnatiC

Germany123 Posts

July 10 2011 02:12 GMT

#10803

Finals tomorrow at 20.00 (Germany - its 4.11am here)?

HolyArrow

United States7116 Posts

July 10 2011 02:12 GMT

#10804

On July 10 2011 11:11 SafeAsCheese wrote:

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Sen and IdrA and MorroW are pretty much the only really known foreign zergs

Nerchio, Dimaga, Darkforce, etc are all good but have not stood out and are not talked about much right now

Darkforce would be an underdog win

Ah, I suppose that would indeed add to the epicness. Though I'm pretty sure Dimaga is on a whole different level of fame than Nerchio and Darkforce.

Bobble

Australia1493 Posts

July 10 2011 02:12 GMT

#10805

On July 10 2011 11:11 TooN wrote:

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wait since when did PvZ become his weakest matchup?

since his PvP and PvT are just godly, it's the only one left.

Ket

United Kingdom124 Posts

July 10 2011 02:12 GMT

#10806

Sage has been showing amazing stuff recently in GSTL but doesn't seem to have any individual league achievements yet... a player to look out for, 4sure.

btw is "Code B" an official classification used by gsl? or just something the community calls players on a proteam that haven't qualified for A/S?

Telcontar

United Kingdom16710 Posts

July 10 2011 02:12 GMT

#10807

On July 10 2011 11:09 Bobble wrote:

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Considering that MCs PvZ is his weakest matchup, I agree. But come on, it's Kratos himself.

Oh god I hope you're joshing.

HomicidaL

United States283 Posts

July 10 2011 02:12 GMT

#10808

On July 10 2011 11:10 chipmonklord17 wrote:

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You mean...a 4 gate

(I kid I kid)

COME ON REALLY!!

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its a 4gate nexus cancel get it right

TooN

1046 Posts

July 10 2011 02:12 GMT

#10809

NASL season 2 starts in a week.....?

Hierarch

United States2197 Posts

July 10 2011 02:12 GMT

#10810

On July 10 2011 11:09 Bobble wrote:

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Considering that MCs PvZ is his weakest matchup, I agree. But come on, it's Kratos himself.

Since when was MC's PvZ his weakest matchup? Recently PvP looks by far to be his weakest matchup

FarbrorAbavna

Sweden4856 Posts

July 10 2011 02:12 GMT

#10811

On July 10 2011 11:11 KimJongChill wrote:

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stay up buddy, you can sleep when you're dead haha :b

that's actually a myth, you cant sleep when dead because youre dead

Condor Hero

United States2931 Posts

July 10 2011 02:12 GMT

#10812

On July 10 2011 11:11 oskarla wrote:

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He's sick man. Could might as well be THE best korean protoss imo, although he's pvp seems a little bit shaky.

i love how people crown best korean protoss based on a team league all kill.
but shit, what does 2 gsl titles mean? apparently not as much as an all kill

HolyArrow

United States7116 Posts

July 10 2011 02:12 GMT

#10813

On July 10 2011 11:12 Bobble wrote:

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since his PvP and PvT are just godly, it's the only one left.

Actually, statistically, PvT is his weakest matchup. And judging by what he's saying, he seems incredibly confident in PvZ right now so I suppose PvT would indeed be a logical conclusion for his weakest MU.

manicshock

Canada741 Posts

July 10 2011 02:12 GMT

#10814

On July 10 2011 10:53 Zane wrote:

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Can you tell me the numbers for the lottery too?

This answers your question.

Olinim

4044 Posts

July 10 2011 02:13 GMT

#10815

On July 10 2011 11:11 oskarla wrote:

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He's sick man. Could might as well be THE best korean protoss imo, although he's pvp seems a little bit shaky.

ROFL Come on seriously, hes won no individual leagues. It's like your a robot and your primary function is false hype.

Kh0nsu

United Kingdom183 Posts

July 10 2011 02:13 GMT

#10816

On July 10 2011 11:07 MechKing wrote:

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On July 10 2011 11:04 Kh0nsu wrote:

On July 10 2011 11:00 Zanno wrote:

On July 10 2011 10:57 FLuE wrote:

On July 10 2011 10:53 Callosum wrote:

On July 10 2011 10:51 don_kyuhote wrote:
So this so called "16th seed" made it to the final.
I feel sorry for Ret.

Yea, not Puma's fault at all, he's playing awesome, but the league championship should have been closed to league members only. Otherwise there's not much incentive to be in the league.

First off, Ret would have had to beat him, or a very good player at some point. With how Ret played there were probably only 4-5 players he was going to beat out of the 16 so if it wasn't out in the first round it would have been the 2nd.

Also, in the league you are competing for 15 possible spots. Not in the league you are trying to fight through a massive talented open bracket that is single elimination for 1 spot. I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out that you'd want to be in the league, not to mention the notoriety of having weekly matches broadcast which makes sponsors happy and helps grow your name and brand.

Bah, shouldn't have even responded to comments. Either you aren't thinking through anything, or I'm getting trolled. Either way wasn't worth the time.

it sets a bad precedent though

if puma wins then other pros will be like oh well i'm not going to waste my time playing in the league i'll just play in the open and if i can beat everyone in that, then i'll be unstoppable in the tournament

you have to understand there's a finite number of hours in the day, and NASL is a huge time-sink for no potential reward, time that could better be spent streaming or playing in smaller cups

It was far, far easier to get into the NASL just by being popular and having a quirky application video then to compete against 1024 other players in Single elimination, a few rounds of which I'm sure was Bo1.

And i'm sure any pro would prefer margin for error (i.e a league format where 1-2 losses and you can easily still qualify) over such a brutal and unforgiving open tournament, even if it takes a few more hours of your life.

Oh, and you get a week to prepare in the league whilst most of the open tournament was too fast paced for preparation.

You forgot to mention that the Korean players had to get up at 4 a.m. every morning to play in the NASL, yet puma plays one open tourney and gets a trip to the finals.

Considering most of those players knew they could win almost every match and they live a lifestyle which i'd imagine allows for a fairly flexible sleeping pattern, getting up at 4.am wouldn't be as big of a deal as people make it out to be.

Sucks, yeah, but i'd imagine not a single Korea player was self-righteous to complain about that considering they are humble folk.

LetoAtreides82

United States1188 Posts

July 10 2011 02:13 GMT

#10817

On July 10 2011 11:10 Kuni wrote:

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Almost everything can happen in a bo3 single elimination, which is not always really meaningful. that's why the double elimination has become so popular these days.

Tournaments that run for 2 or 3 days aren't meant to be very meaningful, they are for entertainment. If you want to know who the best player is, you'd need a list of the top performers for the entire year. You can't ever find out who the best player is in a 2-3 day tournament.

Daralii

United States16991 Posts

July 10 2011 02:13 GMT

#10818

On July 10 2011 11:12 Ket wrote:
Sage has been showing amazing stuff recently in GSTL but doesn't seem to have any individual league achievements yet... a player to look out for, 4sure.

btw is "Code B" an official classification used by gsl? or just something the community calls players on a proteam that haven't qualified for A/S?

Unofficial term for top 200 Korean GM.