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KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
July 10 2011 02:11 GMT
#10801
On July 10 2011 11:09 oskarla wrote:
Will the next game start in 50 minutes? It's already 4am here and if that's the case I'll probably go to bed now.


stay up buddy, you can sleep when you're dead haha :b
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
intense33
Profile Joined January 2011
France93 Posts
July 10 2011 02:11 GMT
#10802
When it starts please?
pAnatiC
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany123 Posts
July 10 2011 02:12 GMT
#10803
Finals tomorrow at 20.00 (Germany - its 4.11am here)?
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 10 2011 02:12 GMT
#10804
On July 10 2011 11:11 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 11:09 HolyArrow wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:08 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:07 figq wrote:
It's funny how no one really considers that Sen could win the tournament.

I do and sort of hope he does althought darkforce winning it would be epic on a whole different level.


Why would it be? They're both foreign Zergs.


Sen and IdrA and MorroW are pretty much the only really known foreign zergs

Nerchio, Dimaga, Darkforce, etc are all good but have not stood out and are not talked about much right now

Darkforce would be an underdog win


Ah, I suppose that would indeed add to the epicness. Though I'm pretty sure Dimaga is on a whole different level of fame than Nerchio and Darkforce.
Bobble
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1493 Posts
July 10 2011 02:12 GMT
#10805
On July 10 2011 11:11 TooN wrote:
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On July 10 2011 11:09 Bobble wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:07 figq wrote:
It's funny how no one really considers that Sen could win the tournament.


Considering that MCs PvZ is his weakest matchup, I agree. But come on, it's Kratos himself.


wait since when did PvZ become his weakest matchup?


since his PvP and PvT are just godly, it's the only one left.
Ket
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom124 Posts
July 10 2011 02:12 GMT
#10806
Sage has been showing amazing stuff recently in GSTL but doesn't seem to have any individual league achievements yet... a player to look out for, 4sure.

btw is "Code B" an official classification used by gsl? or just something the community calls players on a proteam that haven't qualified for A/S?
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
July 10 2011 02:12 GMT
#10807
On July 10 2011 11:09 Bobble wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 11:07 figq wrote:
It's funny how no one really considers that Sen could win the tournament.


Considering that MCs PvZ is his weakest matchup, I agree. But come on, it's Kratos himself.

Oh god I hope you're joshing.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
HomicidaL
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States283 Posts
July 10 2011 02:12 GMT
#10808
On July 10 2011 11:10 chipmonklord17 wrote:
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On July 10 2011 11:09 sermokala wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:07 figq wrote:
It's funny how no one really considers that Sen could win the tournament.


But its MC and the new age ogs pvz is wicked upstopable. Its what huk used to beat moon.


You mean...a 4 gate

(I kid I kid)


COME ON REALLY!!



+ Show Spoiler +
its a 4gate nexus cancel get it right
TooN
Profile Joined February 2011
1046 Posts
July 10 2011 02:12 GMT
#10809
NASL season 2 starts in a week.....?
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
July 10 2011 02:12 GMT
#10810
On July 10 2011 11:09 Bobble wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 11:07 figq wrote:
It's funny how no one really considers that Sen could win the tournament.


Considering that MCs PvZ is his weakest matchup, I agree. But come on, it's Kratos himself.


Since when was MC's PvZ his weakest matchup? Recently PvP looks by far to be his weakest matchup
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
July 10 2011 02:12 GMT
#10811
On July 10 2011 11:11 KimJongChill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 11:09 oskarla wrote:
Will the next game start in 50 minutes? It's already 4am here and if that's the case I'll probably go to bed now.


stay up buddy, you can sleep when you're dead haha :b

that's actually a myth, you cant sleep when dead because youre dead
Do you really want chat rooms?
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
July 10 2011 02:12 GMT
#10812
On July 10 2011 11:11 oskarla wrote:
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On July 10 2011 11:09 MechKing wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:07 Dommk wrote:

On July 10 2011 11:06 Alkior wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:03 KimJongChill wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:03 Daralii wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:01 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Funny how this "terran president" is in code B, gimme a fucking break.

Plenty of incredible players in Code B, dude. Sage, BoxeR, MMA, DRG, etc.


MMA is code B?!? wow, I really need to keep up.


Who the hell is sage?


As of now, looks to be the second best Protoss in Korea. Even MC was impressed by his play during the GSTL

Second best protoss in korea? Are you serious?

He's sick man. Could might as well be THE best korean protoss imo, although he's pvp seems a little bit shaky.

i love how people crown best korean protoss based on a team league all kill.
but shit, what does 2 gsl titles mean? apparently not as much as an all kill
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 10 2011 02:12 GMT
#10813
On July 10 2011 11:12 Bobble wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 11:11 TooN wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:09 Bobble wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:07 figq wrote:
It's funny how no one really considers that Sen could win the tournament.


Considering that MCs PvZ is his weakest matchup, I agree. But come on, it's Kratos himself.


wait since when did PvZ become his weakest matchup?


since his PvP and PvT are just godly, it's the only one left.


Actually, statistically, PvT is his weakest matchup. And judging by what he's saying, he seems incredibly confident in PvZ right now so I suppose PvT would indeed be a logical conclusion for his weakest MU.
manicshock
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada741 Posts
July 10 2011 02:12 GMT
#10814
On July 10 2011 10:53 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 10:49 Yaotzin wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:48 Zanno wrote:
ha

imagine what a great insult it would be to all the league players, who spent weeks and weeks playing matches to qualify for the finals, if the open bracket winner takes the entire tournament

Don't worry MC will win for sure.

Can you tell me the numbers for the lottery too?


This answers your question.
Never argue with an idiot. They will just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
July 10 2011 02:13 GMT
#10815
On July 10 2011 11:11 oskarla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 11:09 MechKing wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:07 Dommk wrote:

On July 10 2011 11:06 Alkior wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:03 KimJongChill wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:03 Daralii wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:01 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Funny how this "terran president" is in code B, gimme a fucking break.

Plenty of incredible players in Code B, dude. Sage, BoxeR, MMA, DRG, etc.


MMA is code B?!? wow, I really need to keep up.


Who the hell is sage?


As of now, looks to be the second best Protoss in Korea. Even MC was impressed by his play during the GSTL

Second best protoss in korea? Are you serious?

He's sick man. Could might as well be THE best korean protoss imo, although he's pvp seems a little bit shaky.

ROFL Come on seriously, hes won no individual leagues. It's like your a robot and your primary function is false hype.
Kh0nsu
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom183 Posts
July 10 2011 02:13 GMT
#10816
On July 10 2011 11:07 MechKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 11:04 Kh0nsu wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:00 Zanno wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:57 FLuE wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:53 Callosum wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:51 don_kyuhote wrote:
So this so called "16th seed" made it to the final.
I feel sorry for Ret.


Yea, not Puma's fault at all, he's playing awesome, but the league championship should have been closed to league members only. Otherwise there's not much incentive to be in the league.


First off, Ret would have had to beat him, or a very good player at some point. With how Ret played there were probably only 4-5 players he was going to beat out of the 16 so if it wasn't out in the first round it would have been the 2nd.

Also, in the league you are competing for 15 possible spots. Not in the league you are trying to fight through a massive talented open bracket that is single elimination for 1 spot. I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out that you'd want to be in the league, not to mention the notoriety of having weekly matches broadcast which makes sponsors happy and helps grow your name and brand.

Bah, shouldn't have even responded to comments. Either you aren't thinking through anything, or I'm getting trolled. Either way wasn't worth the time.
it sets a bad precedent though

if puma wins then other pros will be like oh well i'm not going to waste my time playing in the league i'll just play in the open and if i can beat everyone in that, then i'll be unstoppable in the tournament

you have to understand there's a finite number of hours in the day, and NASL is a huge time-sink for no potential reward, time that could better be spent streaming or playing in smaller cups


It was far, far easier to get into the NASL just by being popular and having a quirky application video then to compete against 1024 other players in Single elimination, a few rounds of which I'm sure was Bo1.

And i'm sure any pro would prefer margin for error (i.e a league format where 1-2 losses and you can easily still qualify) over such a brutal and unforgiving open tournament, even if it takes a few more hours of your life.

Oh, and you get a week to prepare in the league whilst most of the open tournament was too fast paced for preparation.

You forgot to mention that the Korean players had to get up at 4 a.m. every morning to play in the NASL, yet puma plays one open tourney and gets a trip to the finals.


Considering most of those players knew they could win almost every match and they live a lifestyle which i'd imagine allows for a fairly flexible sleeping pattern, getting up at 4.am wouldn't be as big of a deal as people make it out to be.

Sucks, yeah, but i'd imagine not a single Korea player was self-righteous to complain about that considering they are humble folk.
LetoAtreides82
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1188 Posts
July 10 2011 02:13 GMT
#10817
On July 10 2011 11:10 Kuni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 11:08 LetoAtreides82 wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:05 Kuni wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:02 HolyArrow wrote:
On July 10 2011 11:01 Kuni wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:59 tsuxiit wrote:
I like how the person who might win the finals didn't even play in the league....



pretty much this .... :-/
he's pretty awesome tho, but that's got nothing to do with it. poor ret. 10 hours flight for 15 minutes of sc2 games.


Well, if Ret had won, then that wouldn't have happened... it all depends on if you win or not to make traveling to and participating in a tournament worthwhile, no? Imagine if PuMa had lost instead of Ret. Then PuMa would also have had 10+ hours of flight for 15 minutes.



true, ret played a whole season of nasl tho and finished first in the overall statistics, if i am not mistaken. but my post wasn't mainly about ret. more like the format of nasl, which is (at least now in season 1) very flawed. just like the single elimination bo3 grand finals and the like.


No just think about it, if Ret is so good that he finished first in overall statistics during the league, what does that make Puma who eliminated him and is now in the grand final match?


Almost everything can happen in a bo3 single elimination, which is not always really meaningful. that's why the double elimination has become so popular these days.


Tournaments that run for 2 or 3 days aren't meant to be very meaningful, they are for entertainment. If you want to know who the best player is, you'd need a list of the top performers for the entire year. You can't ever find out who the best player is in a 2-3 day tournament.
The spice must flow
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
July 10 2011 02:13 GMT
#10818
On July 10 2011 11:12 Ket wrote:
Sage has been showing amazing stuff recently in GSTL but doesn't seem to have any individual league achievements yet... a player to look out for, 4sure.

btw is "Code B" an official classification used by gsl? or just something the community calls players on a proteam that haven't qualified for A/S?

Unofficial term for top 200 Korean GM.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 10 2011 02:13 GMT
#10819
On July 10 2011 11:12 Ket wrote:
Sage has been showing amazing stuff recently in GSTL but doesn't seem to have any individual league achievements yet... a player to look out for, 4sure.

btw is "Code B" an official classification used by gsl? or just something the community calls players on a proteam that haven't qualified for A/S?


Code B is Korea's top 200 IIRC
puzzl
Profile Joined October 2010
United States263 Posts
July 10 2011 02:13 GMT
#10820
On July 10 2011 11:12 Ket wrote:
Sage has been showing amazing stuff recently in GSTL but doesn't seem to have any individual league achievements yet... a player to look out for, 4sure.

btw is "Code B" an official classification used by gsl? or just something the community calls players on a proteam that haven't qualified for A/S?


Code B = Grandmaster, literally. It has no further meaning. It simply means you are eligible to participate in GSL quals.
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