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Rylaji
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden580 Posts
June 18 2011 10:57 GMT
#5401
This is fucking sick. I am blown away with this result.

My hat is off to you Mr Polt! I have been a fan sort of for a while, but today you showed the world just how good you are.
Official Fan of; Obama oGs.MC // God of War ST.JulyZerg // d.Naniwa // ST.Squirtle // SlayerS_Alicia // Emperor SlayerS_BoxeR // EG.HuK // White-Ra // MarineKing.Prime.WE // oGs.NaDa's Body // SlayerS.MMA // MvP.DongRaeGu
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
June 18 2011 11:01 GMT
#5402
Future bonjwa getting 4-0'd?! lol
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
June 18 2011 11:03 GMT
#5403
On June 18 2011 20:01 zerious wrote:
Future bonjwa getting 4-0'd?! lol

You can't get the necessary mindsets and mentality to become a bonjwa if you don't first take a pitfall and learn to climb back up from it. You know what they say; the harder you fall, the harder you bounce back.
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
June 18 2011 11:04 GMT
#5404
I thought it's the higher you climb, the harder you fall.
DonaldLee
Profile Joined August 2010
586 Posts
June 18 2011 11:06 GMT
#5405
Again with the b-word. Of all the great players in BW, only five of them reached bonjwa status. No one has even shown a glimpse in SC2, surely not MMA.
I)etox
Profile Joined April 2011
1240 Posts
June 18 2011 11:09 GMT
#5406
Holy shit. I left right before the finals started and then came back and saw the result... I have no words. I'm so sad. Gratz to the winner though.
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
June 18 2011 11:09 GMT
#5407
On June 18 2011 20:04 Elurie wrote:
I thought it's the higher you climb, the harder you fall.

That's true too, but MMA never really climbed anywhere yet. He's not even in Code S for god's sake lol xD. He's like a lil prodigy that hasn't fully matured yet.
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
June 18 2011 11:11 GMT
#5408
On June 18 2011 20:09 Fubi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 20:04 Elurie wrote:
I thought it's the higher you climb, the harder you fall.

That's true too, but MMA never really climbed anywhere yet. He's not even in Code S for god's sake lol xD. He's like a lil prodigy that hasn't fully matured yet.


I can assure you that he's no prodigy, as seen from his SC1 career.
Pwnographics
Profile Joined January 2011
New Zealand1097 Posts
June 18 2011 11:12 GMT
#5409
MKP must be so mad.
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
June 18 2011 11:15 GMT
#5410
On June 18 2011 20:11 zerious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 20:09 Fubi wrote:
On June 18 2011 20:04 Elurie wrote:
I thought it's the higher you climb, the harder you fall.

That's true too, but MMA never really climbed anywhere yet. He's not even in Code S for god's sake lol xD. He's like a lil prodigy that hasn't fully matured yet.


I can assure you that he's no prodigy, as seen from his SC1 career.

lol I don't mean in the literal terms of the definition. Just comparing his current story and form to that of someone that is blossoming with a lot of potential but hasn't fully bloomed yet.
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
June 18 2011 11:17 GMT
#5411
On June 18 2011 19:50 red4ce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 19:42 Stanlot wrote:
... still surprised there's no Polt fanclub up yet. In the works or no one cares enough?


Polt may have won respect for winning the super tournament, but that's not the same thing as winning the love and adoration of fans. Polt played well, but until he plays inspirationally he won't have a particularly large fanbase. Nestea was the consensus best Korean Zerg ever since GSL2, but it wasn't until his jawdropping, nerdchilling series against anypro and sC that he became hyper popular. In fact Nestea's fanclub was only made after that semifinal against sC iirc.

I thought Polt won over many people today with his "balls of steel" play in set2. His marine micro while in the face of siege tank fire was amazing. Even Tastosis was blown away by it. His play earned him the nickname of Daredevil terran. However, there will always been a large number of Polt haters, many of them who ignores his tremendous record ever since his loss to Jinro.
cordlc
Profile Joined November 2010
United States360 Posts
June 18 2011 11:18 GMT
#5412
On June 18 2011 19:50 red4ce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 19:42 Stanlot wrote:
... still surprised there's no Polt fanclub up yet. In the works or no one cares enough?


Polt may have won respect for winning the super tournament, but that's not the same thing as winning the love and adoration of fans. Polt played well, but until he plays inspirationally he won't have a particularly large fanbase. Nestea was the consensus best Korean Zerg ever since GSL2, but it wasn't until his jawdropping, nerdchilling series against anypro and sC that he became hyper popular. In fact Nestea's fanclub was only made after that semifinal against sC iirc.

I agree with everything you said, well put.

Actually I was going to flame you (kinda) for getting the Nestea fanclub fact so wrong, but I just went and checked, and you're... right?

What the fuck! Seriously though, people loved him well before that, he was the hope of Zerg! I suppose it was because him winning the GSL wasn't as epic as others' (MKP made it anticlimactic), and he started slumping after Code S Jan (losing to San, Ensnare, Goody, Dimaga, Alicia). Still surprised though, hrm
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
June 18 2011 11:18 GMT
#5413
On June 18 2011 20:12 Pwnographics wrote:
MKP must be so mad.

No way, MKP is probably proud as hell
Maybe a little bitter but probably not mad.
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
KanoCoke
Profile Joined June 2011
Japan863 Posts
June 18 2011 11:20 GMT
#5414
I expected something like this to happen. Given MMA's track record when it comes to important matches on 1vs1 matches (Code A tournament, Up and Down matches), he will always end up on the losing end.

I didn't think he'd lose that terribly on the other hand (was thinking around 2-4 or 3-4). Hats off to Polt for pinpointing MMA's risky early builds and penchant for mech units. MMA couldn't even adjust until the final game (the early ghost build was a great idea, but MMA should have only tried that on the first game, instead of the last one, where Polt started easing up on the aggressiveness).

It'll be a hard loss to bounce back from for MMA, but I hope he recovers well enough and uses this hard loss as motivation to become at least 10x better for the next Code A tournament or super tournament. I also hope that he adopts more safe builds so he doesn't get Marine/Marauder rushed so much. He also has much work to do to get his TvP up to even it out with his TvZ and TvT.

*sigh* It's a long road to the top, isn't it?
Will always cheer for: MMA Bomber Taeja Curious Life herO Zest
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
June 18 2011 11:20 GMT
#5415
Still shocked there's no Polt fanclub. I'm not a fan, so I dont want to start it, but I would like him to receive the appreciation in a dedicated thread =D
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Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 11:25:14
June 18 2011 11:22 GMT
#5416
On June 18 2011 19:47 _PI wrote:
I really feel for GOMtv, the hype around every GSL finals is always very high. The games up to the finals are always good, and they know how to put on a show. But then the finals happen and it's always sad, regardless of who wins, because it's always very one-sided. It's even worse when the finals of a non-GSL special one-week tournament are far better than the 100K tournament.

Oh well, great play by Polt.

Yeah, it's a pity that the finals (baring the MKP vs Nestea series) have not really lived up to the hype. It's not GOM's fault, the players simply haven't played up to expectations. However, I think today's result was the most shocking, because the favourite lost 4-0. In the other finals, it was the underdog who got roflstomped. That being said, I quite enjoyed the games, especially set2, with that mind-blowing "balls of steel" play.

Many people were so hyped after the TSL3 tournament because the final was extremely close. Alot of people were crediting the format for the success, however, they failed to realise that the format for GSL and TSL is exactly the same - the TSL was just lucky to be blessed with an incredible final.
StateAlchemist
Profile Joined January 2011
France1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 11:24:08
June 18 2011 11:23 GMT
#5417
A terrible GSL Final again. -___-
Zhul
Profile Joined February 2010
Czech Republic430 Posts
June 18 2011 11:27 GMT
#5418
WUT
akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
June 18 2011 11:33 GMT
#5419
i honestly don't see how the ghost rush works... maybe if he scv all-inned but other than that, i don't see it
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 11:41:26
June 18 2011 11:38 GMT
#5420
On June 18 2011 20:17 Azzur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 19:50 red4ce wrote:
On June 18 2011 19:42 Stanlot wrote:
... still surprised there's no Polt fanclub up yet. In the works or no one cares enough?


Polt may have won respect for winning the super tournament, but that's not the same thing as winning the love and adoration of fans. Polt played well, but until he plays inspirationally he won't have a particularly large fanbase. Nestea was the consensus best Korean Zerg ever since GSL2, but it wasn't until his jawdropping, nerdchilling series against anypro and sC that he became hyper popular. In fact Nestea's fanclub was only made after that semifinal against sC iirc.

I thought Polt won over many people today with his "balls of steel" play in set2. His marine micro while in the face of siege tank fire was amazing. Even Tastosis was blown away by it. His play earned him the nickname of Daredevil terran. However, there will always been a large number of Polt haters, many of them who ignores his tremendous record ever since his loss to Jinro.

We're not taking anything away from Polt or saying he didn't play that well. He played amazing and showed that he is well prepared and had a lot of confident. What we're saying is he needs a "style" and/or epic inspiring games in order to be lovable by more fans in order to gain a fan base. And no, "nice micro" isn't really a good trait unless it is a jaw droping micro that no one has ever seen (like how MKP showed the marine micro against banelings that no one knew is possible at that time).

Lets look at the fan favourties:

Fruitdealer: First to use banelings so creatively, risky aggressive style, inspiring first season (you guys still remember his game 3 vs OgsTops in season 1?)
MKP: Marine style, jaw-dropping marine micros, inspiring base trade styles (his games vs nada anyone?)
MC: Has a build named after him that involves heavy sentry push. One of the best at Micro.
MVP: Probably has the best game mechanics out of anyone in the game.
Nestea: Reactionary style. Can react and counter everything throne at him. His game vs SC was undoubtedly one of the best games in SC2 history. Just overall very inspirational plays
MMA: Boxer style drop play. Never seen anyone drop as much as him especially in ZvT; sometimes even the observer couldn't follow along. His GSTL wins are no doubt some of the best games and comebacks as well.

So now you look at Polt. He is just someone that has above average in all department, and never make many mistakes. All in all, nothing really special or inspiring. Nothing I can actually think back and say "that was cool and epic!"
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