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haruk
Profile Joined November 2010
216 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 10:57:40
June 18 2011 10:44 GMT
#5381
On June 18 2011 19:40 thoradycus wrote:
esports fandom is now taken to a new level...lol discussing who looks better and can win in a fight


Lol. That's what happens when you have a lot of 'girl' fans. It's not necessarily a lower level. Just different. Nerds embracing their hetero mancrushes. Lol.
Reasonable
Profile Joined September 2010
Ukraine1432 Posts
June 18 2011 10:44 GMT
#5382
On June 18 2011 19:42 Stanlot wrote:
... still surprised there's no Polt fanclub up yet. In the works or no one cares enough?

Crowd finds it hard to relate to intelligent individuals.

Damn I've go so many joke about Polt's intelligence, I surprise myself 0_o
nepeta
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1872 Posts
June 18 2011 10:44 GMT
#5383
Morrow‘s spinecrawlers remind me of The day of the Triffids :p

Sick late game lock down :o
Broodwar AI :) http://sscaitournament.com http://www.starcraftai.com/wiki/Main_Page
BnK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States538 Posts
June 18 2011 10:45 GMT
#5384
I think if there's Polt's FC, someone gonna scream SPOILER tomorrow
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
June 18 2011 10:45 GMT
#5385
On June 18 2011 19:42 Golgotha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 19:39 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
On June 18 2011 19:32 DonaldLee wrote:
On June 18 2011 19:31 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
On June 18 2011 19:24 Fionn wrote:
On June 18 2011 19:21 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
On June 18 2011 19:18 Fionn wrote:
On June 18 2011 19:18 Krehlmar wrote:
Well if anyone found this finals to be exciting then good for you but even though I love NesTea I hated his finals, MMA obviously choked: This is not an excuse this is a fucking fact, go check his MLG/GSL games if you don't believe me.

So what happend? MMA chokes, Polt playes rush/offensive terran and MMA loses all 4 games rather than Polt winning them.

We get a boring finals, people polarize and care either way but truth be told a 4-0 finals is never a good or a fun thing, I don't care if Polt outplayed MMA... MMA played like shit and there was no contest, thus it was boring to see.


meh...


What? MMA was the one who rushed Polt in Game 4 and got completely smacked down.


You didn't watch the game.. His attack was successful. He got owned by the counter banshee, just like in the MKP game.


Yes. He got outplayed.

Polt is a better player than MMA. There is a reason why Polt is 2nd in Korea in ELO, has the a +30 wins margin in the past few months and actually in Code S.

MMA is a great player, but I think he was built up too much from his MLG Columbus victory. I think the better player won.



Uh.. most of MMA's real fans knew that he had holes in his game, shown time and time again as he always falls behind/loses early on. The fact that you even listened to bandwagoners makes me laugh.


Seriously, MMA fans took over Huk fans as most annoying and delusional. I call it the MLG champion effect.



Bandwagoners that were calling MMA top terran in the world are stupid. If you look at his game objectively you'll see that he:

Has risky openings which often lead to him losing/falling behind early.
Has poor mechanics which gets him supply blocked often which also contributes to him getting behind early.

Makes good in game decisions.
Has great unit control.

Whether or not the last 2 traits can make up for the first two depends entirely on how much pressure the opponent applies on him early on.

Supernova wrecked him early on in all their 3 games but failed to follow that up and got out macro'd later on. MKP did the same but went away from what was working and lost in longer games. Now you have someone like Polt who commits to early bio timing attacks and everyone is screaming that MMA choked (retards to be honest) when what we actually have is someone exploiting MMA's weakness that has always been there.

At the end of the day, MMA is a great player and this is just another hiccup for him on his way to become an even greater player.



true, i love mma but his weakness early game really showed. he never got his macro rolling and was always limited to 2 base. polt had great timing attacks and early MM aggression that put MMA behind nearly every game. seriously, I saw MM run up into MMA's main in the three first games. Ran up untouched.....no defense for MMA.

Yea, I feel if MMA can polish up his early games, play a little less risky, he would be so good once he gets into the late games. His late game mechanics is really out of the world; like his ability to multi drop harass, seige line positioning, when to charge in with marines, etc etc.
rewired
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada630 Posts
June 18 2011 10:45 GMT
#5386
I just wish there would be a final that goes to game 6-7 and the matches are back and forth and overall fantastic, instead I keep inviting people over to watch on the TV and it turns into this welp that solves that kinda thing and everyone just leaves as quickly as they arrive.
stupid gsl finals curse
The road isn't always straight.
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
June 18 2011 10:46 GMT
#5387
Well, Polt and MKP can share a fanclub then PP
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 10:46:53
June 18 2011 10:46 GMT
#5388
On June 18 2011 19:45 rewired wrote:
I just wish there would be a final that goes to game 6-7 and the matches are back and forth and overall fantastic, instead I keep inviting people over to watch on the TV and it turns into this welp that solves that kinda thing and everyone just leaves as quickly as they arrive.
stupid gsl finals curse

lol, this kind of made me wonder about all those "GSL finals parties", kinda makes me feel bad for them now that I think about it
_PI
Profile Joined July 2010
United States60 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 10:48:38
June 18 2011 10:47 GMT
#5389
I really feel for GOMtv, the hype around every GSL finals is always very high. The games up to the finals are always good, and they know how to put on a show. But then the finals happen and it's always sad, regardless of who wins, because it's always very one-sided. It's even worse when the finals of a non-GSL special one-week tournament are far better than the 100K tournament.

Oh well, great play by Polt.
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 10:48:02
June 18 2011 10:47 GMT
#5390
On June 18 2011 19:46 Fubi wrote:
lol, this kind of made me wonder about all those "GSL finals parties", kinda makes me feel bad for them now that I think about it



Yea totally. From now on they should just hold GSL semifinals parties instead.
licmibals
Profile Joined June 2011
10 Posts
June 18 2011 10:47 GMT
#5391
On June 18 2011 19:42 Stanlot wrote:
... still surprised there's no Polt fanclub up yet. In the works or no one cares enough?


i think there are some ppl working on the fan club for polt.. there are alot of stuffs to write up for our handsome champion nerd..
and again.. haters gonna hate XD well done Polt
i can see alot of haters QQ-ing lol
BnK
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States538 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 10:48:22
June 18 2011 10:48 GMT
#5392
On June 18 2011 19:47 _PI wrote:
I really feel for GOMtv, the hype around every GSL finals is always very high. The games up to the finals are always good, and they know how to put on a show. But then the finals happen and it's always sad, regardless of who wins, because it's always very one-sided. It's even worse when the finals of a non-GSL weekly tournament are far better than the 100K tournament.

Oh well, great play by Polt.


I think they'd better use different tournament format like winner/loser bracket.
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
June 18 2011 10:48 GMT
#5393
On June 18 2011 19:48 BnK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 19:47 _PI wrote:
I really feel for GOMtv, the hype around every GSL finals is always very high. The games up to the finals are always good, and they know how to put on a show. But then the finals happen and it's always sad, regardless of who wins, because it's always very one-sided. It's even worse when the finals of a non-GSL weekly tournament are far better than the 100K tournament.

Oh well, great play by Polt.


I think they'd better use different tournament format like winner/loser bracket.

You mean like MLG and end up with a 2 games final? no thx lol
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 10:50:37
June 18 2011 10:50 GMT
#5394
On June 18 2011 19:42 Stanlot wrote:
... still surprised there's no Polt fanclub up yet. In the works or no one cares enough?


Polt may have won respect for winning the super tournament, but that's not the same thing as winning the love and adoration of fans. Polt played well, but until he plays inspirationally he won't have a particularly large fanbase. Nestea was the consensus best Korean Zerg ever since GSL2, but it wasn't until his jawdropping, nerdchilling series against anypro and sC that he became hyper popular. In fact Nestea's fanclub was only made after that semifinal against sC iirc.
eggs
Profile Joined August 2010
1011 Posts
June 18 2011 10:51 GMT
#5395
On June 18 2011 19:50 red4ce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 19:42 Stanlot wrote:
... still surprised there's no Polt fanclub up yet. In the works or no one cares enough?


Polt may have won respect for winning the super tournament, but that's not the same thing as winning the love and adoration of fans. Polt played well, but until he plays inspirationally he won't have a particularly large fanbase. Nestea was the consensus best Korean Zerg ever since GSL2, but it wasn't until his jawdropping, nerdchilling series against anypro and sC that he became hyper popular. In fact Nestea's fanclub was only made after that semifinal against sC iirc.


i dont know about other communities, but my circle of friends loved the early victories of ZergBong.
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
June 18 2011 10:53 GMT
#5396
On June 18 2011 19:50 red4ce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 19:42 Stanlot wrote:
... still surprised there's no Polt fanclub up yet. In the works or no one cares enough?


Polt may have won respect for winning the super tournament, but that's not the same thing as winning the love and adoration of fans. Polt played well, but until he plays inspirationally he won't have a particularly large fanbase. Nestea was the consensus best Korean Zerg ever since GSL2, but it wasn't until his jawdropping, nerdchilling series against anypro and sC that he became hyper popular. In fact Nestea's fanclub was only made after that semifinal against sC iirc.

Very well said. Polt needs to develop a style and/or jaw dropping epic games before he is able to win a bigger fan base.
DonaldLee
Profile Joined August 2010
586 Posts
June 18 2011 10:56 GMT
#5397
On June 18 2011 19:48 Fubi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 19:48 BnK wrote:
On June 18 2011 19:47 _PI wrote:
I really feel for GOMtv, the hype around every GSL finals is always very high. The games up to the finals are always good, and they know how to put on a show. But then the finals happen and it's always sad, regardless of who wins, because it's always very one-sided. It's even worse when the finals of a non-GSL weekly tournament are far better than the 100K tournament.

Oh well, great play by Polt.


I think they'd better use different tournament format like winner/loser bracket.

You mean like MLG and end up with a 2 games final? no thx lol


Yeah, although it's possible to have double elimination with longer series in the later rounds, if the aim is an exciting final, double elimination is actually the last format you want. Double elimination finals are only exciting if lower bracket finalist is able to at least take the first set. In practice, it's usually a complete stomping by the winner bracket finalist.
nAgeDitto
Profile Joined April 2011
United States428 Posts
June 18 2011 10:56 GMT
#5398
On June 18 2011 19:53 Fubi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 19:50 red4ce wrote:
On June 18 2011 19:42 Stanlot wrote:
... still surprised there's no Polt fanclub up yet. In the works or no one cares enough?


Polt may have won respect for winning the super tournament, but that's not the same thing as winning the love and adoration of fans. Polt played well, but until he plays inspirationally he won't have a particularly large fanbase. Nestea was the consensus best Korean Zerg ever since GSL2, but it wasn't until his jawdropping, nerdchilling series against anypro and sC that he became hyper popular. In fact Nestea's fanclub was only made after that semifinal against sC iirc.

Very well said. Polt needs to develop a style and/or jaw dropping epic games before he is able to win a bigger fan base.




yup 100% agree. Cant help but be disappointed at MMA though..

Polt played his A++ game and MMA played very poorly..
Damaskinos
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany139 Posts
June 18 2011 10:57 GMT
#5399
On June 18 2011 18:33 fuzzy_panda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 18:33 papaz wrote:
On June 18 2011 18:32 Mordiford wrote:
Pretty standard GSL final.

unfortunately

has there been even 1 good gsl final?


nope not yet. Code A finals and GSTL finals are way better for some reason



Season 2, NesTea vs Boxer/Foxer/MKP. Best finals ever.
"Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you." Matthew 7:6
bearhug
Profile Joined September 2010
United States999 Posts
June 18 2011 10:57 GMT
#5400
Polt was busy with his study. Now he seems to have more time on practicing. And the result is !! Smart people ftw!
We are dusts in the vast cosmic arena. Need to make the most out of life when we still have it.
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