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On June 18 2011 19:32 DonaldLee wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 19:31 ItsMeDomLee wrote:On June 18 2011 19:24 Fionn wrote:On June 18 2011 19:21 ItsMeDomLee wrote:On June 18 2011 19:18 Fionn wrote:On June 18 2011 19:18 Krehlmar wrote:
Well if anyone found this finals to be exciting then good for you but even though I love NesTea I hated his finals, MMA obviously choked: This is not an excuse this is a fucking fact, go check his MLG/GSL games if you don't believe me.
So what happend? MMA chokes, Polt playes rush/offensive terran and MMA loses all 4 games rather than Polt winning them.
We get a boring finals, people polarize and care either way but truth be told a 4-0 finals is never a good or a fun thing, I don't care if Polt outplayed MMA... MMA played like shit and there was no contest, thus it was boring to see.
meh... What? MMA was the one who rushed Polt in Game 4 and got completely smacked down. You didn't watch the game.. His attack was successful. He got owned by the counter banshee, just like in the MKP game. Yes. He got outplayed. Polt is a better player than MMA. There is a reason why Polt is 2nd in Korea in ELO, has the a +30 wins margin in the past few months and actually in Code S. MMA is a great player, but I think he was built up too much from his MLG Columbus victory. I think the better player won. Uh.. most of MMA's real fans knew that he had holes in his game, shown time and time again as he always falls behind/loses early on. The fact that you even listened to bandwagoners makes me laugh. Seriously, MMA fans took over Huk fans as most annoying and delusional. I call it the MLG champion effect.
i thought idra fans were the most annoying and delusional lol
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I posted a summary of each of the games on my blog but I'll post my final thoughts in this thread as well.
In my opinion, Polt studied exactly what he needed to study. Everyone is so frightened by MMA's amazing multitasking and multi-pronged drops, and for good reason. Polt knew he would have a difficult time dealing with MMA's late game, so he never gave the games a chance to go that far. MMA played valiantly but in the end, he couldn't deal with the early game harass from Polt. Congratulations to Polt, and good luck to MMA in the future.
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On June 18 2011 19:31 Reasonable wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 19:29 Golgotha wrote:On June 18 2011 19:27 DonaldLee wrote:On June 18 2011 19:25 Ansalem wrote:On June 18 2011 19:23 kidleader wrote:On June 18 2011 19:12 Arceus wrote:
screw fanboys. This is the best GSL final Ive ever watched. How can it be bad when the supposedly underdog whitewash fanfavoritemlgchampsonofboxer ? And the way Polt did this is so boss. He mindfucks and outsmarts his opponent to the trophy. What a champ A) MMA has charisma/is likeable. Polt doesn't/isn't. He has no story. This is massive in Starcraft whether we like it or not. See Bisu, see Jaedong, see pretty much every successful player in BW. B) People want epic games. MMA choked and Polt didn't. Doesn't take anything away from Polt but it's not exactly exciting. Polt just graduated from the best university in Korea, stepped up his game and won the super tournament. Isn't that enough of a story for you? It's called bias. MMA doesn't have any more charisma or story than Polt does, he just likes him better so he feels like he does. uh mma is more handsome by FAR. so he wins in my book. no homo Polt is more intelligent looking. Intelligence wins money, girls, and power, while beauty is only subjective.
Polt's much cuter than MMA. That he's a pro-gamer that finished Uni is a plus.
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I gotta say, I'm really shocked how well Polt performed. I always thought him as a code a player. He went through some really tough opponents as well. Congrats.
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On June 18 2011 19:32 DonaldLee wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 19:31 ItsMeDomLee wrote:On June 18 2011 19:24 Fionn wrote:On June 18 2011 19:21 ItsMeDomLee wrote:On June 18 2011 19:18 Fionn wrote:On June 18 2011 19:18 Krehlmar wrote:
Well if anyone found this finals to be exciting then good for you but even though I love NesTea I hated his finals, MMA obviously choked: This is not an excuse this is a fucking fact, go check his MLG/GSL games if you don't believe me.
So what happend? MMA chokes, Polt playes rush/offensive terran and MMA loses all 4 games rather than Polt winning them.
We get a boring finals, people polarize and care either way but truth be told a 4-0 finals is never a good or a fun thing, I don't care if Polt outplayed MMA... MMA played like shit and there was no contest, thus it was boring to see.
meh... What? MMA was the one who rushed Polt in Game 4 and got completely smacked down. You didn't watch the game.. His attack was successful. He got owned by the counter banshee, just like in the MKP game. Yes. He got outplayed. Polt is a better player than MMA. There is a reason why Polt is 2nd in Korea in ELO, has the a +30 wins margin in the past few months and actually in Code S. MMA is a great player, but I think he was built up too much from his MLG Columbus victory. I think the better player won. Uh.. most of MMA's real fans knew that he had holes in his game, shown time and time again as he always falls behind/loses early on. The fact that you even listened to bandwagoners makes me laugh. Seriously, MMA fans took over Huk fans as most annoying and delusional. I call it the MLG champion effect.
yes we are delusional. we just witnessed the virtual equivalent of MMA dying. how can we not be delusional and hysterical right now? AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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On June 18 2011 19:21 ItsMeDomLee wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 19:18 Fionn wrote:On June 18 2011 19:18 Krehlmar wrote:
Well if anyone found this finals to be exciting then good for you but even though I love NesTea I hated his finals, MMA obviously choked: This is not an excuse this is a fucking fact, go check his MLG/GSL games if you don't believe me.
So what happend? MMA chokes, Polt playes rush/offensive terran and MMA loses all 4 games rather than Polt winning them.
We get a boring finals, people polarize and care either way but truth be told a 4-0 finals is never a good or a fun thing, I don't care if Polt outplayed MMA... MMA played like shit and there was no contest, thus it was boring to see.
meh... What? MMA was the one who rushed Polt in Game 4 and got completely smacked down. You didn't watch the game.. His attack was successful. He got owned by the counter banshee, just like in the MKP game.
His attack was successful???? LOL
He killed two depots and a handful of marines. Absolutely zero SCV's died, and then he just replaced the depots, woo.
MMA fanboys are attempting to compete with IdrA fanboys for the most annoying and delusional.
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On June 18 2011 19:34 Reasonable wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 19:31 pdd wrote:
By the way, is Polt still studying or has he graduated already? I keep reading differing stuff. Polt graduates Seoul University several months ago. Does anyone know what he studied though? I've been trying to find that out for a while
I don't know but i can't help but feel his time spent studying there and passing the exams to get in has helped him immensely with pressure. He looked so calm and collected the entire time and i never saw nerves in his play once. Say what you want about the guy, but that's some champion-esque bottle right there.
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On June 18 2011 19:35 Eufouria wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 19:34 julianto wrote:On June 18 2011 19:31 Reasonable wrote:On June 18 2011 19:29 Golgotha wrote:On June 18 2011 19:27 DonaldLee wrote:On June 18 2011 19:25 Ansalem wrote:On June 18 2011 19:23 kidleader wrote:On June 18 2011 19:12 Arceus wrote:
screw fanboys. This is the best GSL final Ive ever watched. How can it be bad when the supposedly underdog whitewash fanfavoritemlgchampsonofboxer ? And the way Polt did this is so boss. He mindfucks and outsmarts his opponent to the trophy. What a champ A) MMA has charisma/is likeable. Polt doesn't/isn't. He has no story. This is massive in Starcraft whether we like it or not. See Bisu, see Jaedong, see pretty much every successful player in BW. B) People want epic games. MMA choked and Polt didn't. Doesn't take anything away from Polt but it's not exactly exciting. Polt just graduated from the best university in Korea, stepped up his game and won the super tournament. Isn't that enough of a story for you? It's called bias. MMA doesn't have any more charisma or story than Polt does, he just likes him better so he feels like he does. uh mma is more handsome by FAR. so he wins in my book. no homo Polt is more intelligent looking. Intelligence wins money, girls, and power, while beauty is only subjective. Noooo, Polt is more handsome. MMA is feminine looking. MMA would win in a fight, but Polt could spend 70,000,000 KRW more on people to fight with him than MMA.
Intelligent people resolve conflicts with speechcraft and deception.
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Legends are created by first having major down falls, then climbing back up that hill. I think this is just one of the obstacles for MMA. Like John said, he has great potential. He has a lot of lil holes and inconsistency in his play, and that is because he isn't "matured" yet as Artosis puts it. But I feel one day, after taking all these hard falls, he will become much much stronger. Only then will he be a legend.
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On June 18 2011 19:32 DonaldLee wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 19:31 ItsMeDomLee wrote:On June 18 2011 19:24 Fionn wrote:On June 18 2011 19:21 ItsMeDomLee wrote:On June 18 2011 19:18 Fionn wrote:On June 18 2011 19:18 Krehlmar wrote:
Well if anyone found this finals to be exciting then good for you but even though I love NesTea I hated his finals, MMA obviously choked: This is not an excuse this is a fucking fact, go check his MLG/GSL games if you don't believe me.
So what happend? MMA chokes, Polt playes rush/offensive terran and MMA loses all 4 games rather than Polt winning them.
We get a boring finals, people polarize and care either way but truth be told a 4-0 finals is never a good or a fun thing, I don't care if Polt outplayed MMA... MMA played like shit and there was no contest, thus it was boring to see.
meh... What? MMA was the one who rushed Polt in Game 4 and got completely smacked down. You didn't watch the game.. His attack was successful. He got owned by the counter banshee, just like in the MKP game. Yes. He got outplayed. Polt is a better player than MMA. There is a reason why Polt is 2nd in Korea in ELO, has the a +30 wins margin in the past few months and actually in Code S. MMA is a great player, but I think he was built up too much from his MLG Columbus victory. I think the better player won. Uh.. most of MMA's real fans knew that he had holes in his game, shown time and time again as he always falls behind/loses early on. The fact that you even listened to bandwagoners makes me laugh. Seriously, MMA fans took over Huk fans as most annoying and delusional. I call it the MLG champion effect.
Bandwagoners that were calling MMA top terran in the world are stupid. If you look at his game objectively you'll see that he:
Has risky openings which often lead to him losing/falling behind early.
Has poor mechanics which gets him supply blocked often which also contributes to him getting behind early.
Makes good in game decisions.
Has great unit control.
Whether or not the last 2 traits can make up for the first two depends entirely on how much pressure the opponent applies on him early on.
Supernova wrecked him early on in all their 3 games but failed to follow that up and got out macro'd later on. MKP did the same but went away from what was working and lost in longer games. Now you have someone like Polt who commits to early bio timing attacks and everyone is screaming that MMA choked (retards to be honest) when what we actually have is someone exploiting MMA's weakness that has always been there.
At the end of the day, MMA is a great player and this is just another hiccup for him on his way to become an even greater player.
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esports fandom is now taken to a new level...lol discussing who looks better and can win in a fight
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On June 18 2011 19:37 mikyaJ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 19:21 ItsMeDomLee wrote:On June 18 2011 19:18 Fionn wrote:On June 18 2011 19:18 Krehlmar wrote:
Well if anyone found this finals to be exciting then good for you but even though I love NesTea I hated his finals, MMA obviously choked: This is not an excuse this is a fucking fact, go check his MLG/GSL games if you don't believe me.
So what happend? MMA chokes, Polt playes rush/offensive terran and MMA loses all 4 games rather than Polt winning them.
We get a boring finals, people polarize and care either way but truth be told a 4-0 finals is never a good or a fun thing, I don't care if Polt outplayed MMA... MMA played like shit and there was no contest, thus it was boring to see.
meh... What? MMA was the one who rushed Polt in Game 4 and got completely smacked down. You didn't watch the game.. His attack was successful. He got owned by the counter banshee, just like in the MKP game. His attack was successful???? LOL He killed two depots and a handful of marines. Absolutely zero SCV's died, and then he just replaced the depots, woo. MMA fanboys are attempting to compete with IdrA fanboys for the most annoying and delusional.
MMA lost 1 scv and 1 marine during that attack. How is that not successful when the net gain outweighed the net loss in the attack? Fuck off if you're going to act like a retard.
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well polt sure did his share of studying
his unconventional timing pushes and great all-around nerve won him the game ezpz
poor mma lol, a 4-0 loss must be pretty hard on him mentally
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... still surprised there's no Polt fanclub up yet. In the works or no one cares enough?
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MMA really is the cutest. Anyone who thinks otherwise is definitely a PoltPrime fanboy.
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On June 18 2011 19:39 ItsMeDomLee wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 19:32 DonaldLee wrote:On June 18 2011 19:31 ItsMeDomLee wrote:On June 18 2011 19:24 Fionn wrote:On June 18 2011 19:21 ItsMeDomLee wrote:On June 18 2011 19:18 Fionn wrote:On June 18 2011 19:18 Krehlmar wrote:
Well if anyone found this finals to be exciting then good for you but even though I love NesTea I hated his finals, MMA obviously choked: This is not an excuse this is a fucking fact, go check his MLG/GSL games if you don't believe me.
So what happend? MMA chokes, Polt playes rush/offensive terran and MMA loses all 4 games rather than Polt winning them.
We get a boring finals, people polarize and care either way but truth be told a 4-0 finals is never a good or a fun thing, I don't care if Polt outplayed MMA... MMA played like shit and there was no contest, thus it was boring to see.
meh... What? MMA was the one who rushed Polt in Game 4 and got completely smacked down. You didn't watch the game.. His attack was successful. He got owned by the counter banshee, just like in the MKP game. Yes. He got outplayed. Polt is a better player than MMA. There is a reason why Polt is 2nd in Korea in ELO, has the a +30 wins margin in the past few months and actually in Code S. MMA is a great player, but I think he was built up too much from his MLG Columbus victory. I think the better player won. Uh.. most of MMA's real fans knew that he had holes in his game, shown time and time again as he always falls behind/loses early on. The fact that you even listened to bandwagoners makes me laugh. Seriously, MMA fans took over Huk fans as most annoying and delusional. I call it the MLG champion effect. Bandwagoners that were calling MMA top terran in the world are stupid. If you look at his game objectively you'll see that he: Has risky openings which often lead to him losing/falling behind early. Has poor mechanics which gets him supply blocked often which also contributes to him getting behind early. Makes good in game decisions. Has great unit control. Whether or not the last 2 traits can make up for the first two depends entirely on how much pressure the opponent applies on him early on. Supernova wrecked him early on in all their 3 games but failed to follow that up and got out macro'd later on. MKP did the same but went away from what was working and lost in longer games. Now you have someone like Polt who commits to early bio timing attacks and everyone is screaming that MMA choked (retards to be honest) when what we actually have is someone exploiting MMA's weakness that has always been there. At the end of the day, MMA is a great player and this is just another hiccup for him on his way to become an even greater player.
true, i love mma but his weakness early game really showed. he never got his macro rolling and was always limited to 2 base. polt had great timing attacks and early MM aggression that put MMA behind nearly every game. seriously, I saw MM run up into MMA's main in the three first games. Ran up untouched.....no defense for MMA.
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since its over i'll put it in a poiler+ Show Spoiler +no MMA T_T but also gratz to polt 
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On June 18 2011 19:40 ItsMeDomLee wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 19:37 mikyaJ wrote:On June 18 2011 19:21 ItsMeDomLee wrote:On June 18 2011 19:18 Fionn wrote:On June 18 2011 19:18 Krehlmar wrote:
Well if anyone found this finals to be exciting then good for you but even though I love NesTea I hated his finals, MMA obviously choked: This is not an excuse this is a fucking fact, go check his MLG/GSL games if you don't believe me.
So what happend? MMA chokes, Polt playes rush/offensive terran and MMA loses all 4 games rather than Polt winning them.
We get a boring finals, people polarize and care either way but truth be told a 4-0 finals is never a good or a fun thing, I don't care if Polt outplayed MMA... MMA played like shit and there was no contest, thus it was boring to see.
meh... What? MMA was the one who rushed Polt in Game 4 and got completely smacked down. You didn't watch the game.. His attack was successful. He got owned by the counter banshee, just like in the MKP game. His attack was successful???? LOL He killed two depots and a handful of marines. Absolutely zero SCV's died, and then he just replaced the depots, woo. MMA fanboys are attempting to compete with IdrA fanboys for the most annoying and delusional. MMA lost 1 scv and 1 marine during that attack. How is that not successful when the net gain outweighed the net loss in the attack? Fuck off if you're going to act like a retard.
He cut SCVs though. Iirc Polt was up 6 or so SCVs after that attack.
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On June 18 2011 19:42 MrLion wrote:
MMA really is the cutest. Anyone who thinks otherwise is definitely a PoltPrime fanboy.
But neither will be as sexy as NaDa <3
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