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Atasu
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada98 Posts
June 18 2011 10:28 GMT
#5321
On June 18 2011 19:27 Damaskinos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 19:23 kidleader wrote:
On June 18 2011 19:12 Arceus wrote:
screw fanboys. This is the best GSL final Ive ever watched. How can it be bad when the supposedly underdog whitewash fanfavoritemlgchampsonofboxer ? And the way Polt did this is so boss. He mindfucks and outsmarts his opponent to the trophy. What a champ


A) MMA has charisma/is likeable. Polt doesn't/isn't. He has no story. This is massive in Starcraft whether we like it or not. See Bisu, see Jaedong, see pretty much every successful player in BW.
B) People want epic games. MMA choked and Polt didn't. Doesn't take anything away from Polt but it's not exactly exciting.



Polt isnt likeable? Polt hasnt a story? Well, he is there on the scene from the very starts of GSL.

Life must be ugly if you are nothing more than a fanboy bro...


Word. You took the words out of my mouth. Polt Ftw
julianto
Profile Joined December 2010
2292 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 10:30:01
June 18 2011 10:28 GMT
#5322
On June 18 2011 19:24 Codeskye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 19:23 kidleader wrote:
On June 18 2011 19:12 Arceus wrote:
screw fanboys. This is the best GSL final Ive ever watched. How can it be bad when the supposedly underdog whitewash fanfavoritemlgchampsonofboxer ? And the way Polt did this is so boss. He mindfucks and outsmarts his opponent to the trophy. What a champ


A) MMA has charisma/is likeable. Polt doesn't/isn't. He has no story. This is massive in Starcraft whether we like it or not. See Bisu, see Jaedong, see pretty much every successful player in BW.
B) People want epic games. MMA choked and Polt didn't. Doesn't take anything away from Polt but it's not exactly exciting.



A.) Polt just graduated from one of the top 50 colleges in the world.

B.) Blame MMA for doing repetitive builds and not putting up a good fight against Polt.

Indeed, how can you say MMA has charisma while Polt does not, when we clearly see that Polt was smiling more and more talkative in the interviews right before the match? I want to give credit where credit is due. Polt is amazing.
If anything, I think the reverse. MMA is more stoic and I don't see much charisma in him. Still, he got second place, so he is definitely a good player as well.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
June 18 2011 10:28 GMT
#5323
On June 18 2011 19:25 TheHova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 19:24 Fionn wrote:
On June 18 2011 19:21 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
On June 18 2011 19:18 Fionn wrote:
On June 18 2011 19:18 Krehlmar wrote:
Well if anyone found this finals to be exciting then good for you but even though I love NesTea I hated his finals, MMA obviously choked: This is not an excuse this is a fucking fact, go check his MLG/GSL games if you don't believe me.

So what happend? MMA chokes, Polt playes rush/offensive terran and MMA loses all 4 games rather than Polt winning them.

We get a boring finals, people polarize and care either way but truth be told a 4-0 finals is never a good or a fun thing, I don't care if Polt outplayed MMA... MMA played like shit and there was no contest, thus it was boring to see.


meh...


What? MMA was the one who rushed Polt in Game 4 and got completely smacked down.


You didn't watch the game.. His attack was successful. He got owned by the counter banshee, just like in the MKP game.


Yes. He got outplayed.

Polt is a better player than MMA. There is a reason why Polt is 2nd in Korea in ELO, has the a +30 wins margin in the past few months and actually in Code S.

MMA is a great player, but I think he was built up too much from his MLG Columbus victory. I think the better player won.


It has more to do with him pretty much single handedly winning SlayerS 2 GSTL's than the MLG win.


I'm a huge MMA fan and I was cheering him on when his name was still Jjob. I still think he needs a few more months and a decisive Code A tournament before he gets the super hype job. Hopefully in Code A July, he destroys everyone and wins the championship there.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
adeptz
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia220 Posts
June 18 2011 10:28 GMT
#5324
On June 18 2011 19:20 Fubi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 19:16 adeptz wrote:
On June 18 2011 19:12 Ysellian wrote:
On June 18 2011 19:12 Arceus wrote:
screw fanboys. This is the best GSL final Ive ever watched. How can it bad when the supposedly underdog whitewash fanfavoritemlgchampsonofboxer ? And the way Polt did this is so boss. He mindfucks and outsmarts his opponent to the trophy. What a champ


I have to agree with you. This is the first time an underdog comes out on Top and in an incredible fashion as well.


Totally agree. This was basically a series of Polt outsmarting his opponent and taking advantage of his weaknesses, not to mention simply playing BETTER. How many other players would have simply lost it with the ghost snipes in the last game? Some of the people posting on teamliquid are so biased/plain stupid it's unbelievable.

I actually find these pro-underdog fans more biased. Seriously, imagine these two players had no character behind them, and we're analysing purely on the games, half of these people going "OMG SUCH GOOD GAMES underdog won!!" would be complaining how boring it is.


Note that i didn't say "OMG GREAT GAMES" and i seriously don't care about Polt. What i care about is simply people giving credit when it's due or when X simply plays better than Y on a particular day.
piskooooo
Profile Joined November 2008
United States351 Posts
June 18 2011 10:28 GMT
#5325
On June 18 2011 19:27 Damaskinos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 19:23 kidleader wrote:
On June 18 2011 19:12 Arceus wrote:
screw fanboys. This is the best GSL final Ive ever watched. How can it be bad when the supposedly underdog whitewash fanfavoritemlgchampsonofboxer ? And the way Polt did this is so boss. He mindfucks and outsmarts his opponent to the trophy. What a champ


A) MMA has charisma/is likeable. Polt doesn't/isn't. He has no story. This is massive in Starcraft whether we like it or not. See Bisu, see Jaedong, see pretty much every successful player in BW.
B) People want epic games. MMA choked and Polt didn't. Doesn't take anything away from Polt but it's not exactly exciting.



Polt isnt likeable? Polt hasnt a story? Well, he is there on the scene from the very starts of GSL.

Life must be ugly if you are nothing more than a fanboy bro...

This lol.
<3 MKP
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
June 18 2011 10:28 GMT
#5326
On June 18 2011 19:25 MrCon wrote:
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On June 18 2011 19:22 Benjef wrote:
So isn't the GSL Code A qualifiers this weekend? Anyone know any timings or where we can find results?

Dear GOMTV.net users, eSports fans, and avid gamers:

GOMTV would like to extend our invitation to everyone who loves playing StarCraft 2.

There are no restrictions on participating in our preliminaries for Code A and players who have won major tournaments will win Code A seeds (contact us!).

Next round of preliminaries is scheduled to be held at June 19th (the date might change so we recommend checking our website later for the exact date) and you just need to be in South Korea and bring your A game to the venue for the preliminaries! We will be taking applications starting from June 6th to June 13th midnight.

You must use your own Battle.net account (cannot use your family's or friends' account).

Match Format: Bo3
Map Pool: 1set - GSL Xel'Naga Caverns, 2set - GSL Metalopolis, 3set - GSL Lost Temple
These GSL versions have been modified so players will not be placed right next to each other.

If you have any questions please feel free to contact gsl@gomtv.com

Thank you and good luck!
GOMTV.net


Cool thanks so tomorrow then :D.
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 10:29:17
June 18 2011 10:29 GMT
#5327
On June 18 2011 19:25 haruk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 19:20 Fubi wrote:
On June 18 2011 19:16 adeptz wrote:
On June 18 2011 19:12 Ysellian wrote:
On June 18 2011 19:12 Arceus wrote:
screw fanboys. This is the best GSL final Ive ever watched. How can it bad when the supposedly underdog whitewash fanfavoritemlgchampsonofboxer ? And the way Polt did this is so boss. He mindfucks and outsmarts his opponent to the trophy. What a champ


I have to agree with you. This is the first time an underdog comes out on Top and in an incredible fashion as well.


Totally agree. This was basically a series of Polt outsmarting his opponent and taking advantage of his weaknesses, not to mention simply playing BETTER. How many other players would have simply lost it with the ghost snipes in the last game? Some of the people posting on teamliquid are so biased/plain stupid it's unbelievable.

I actually find these pro-underdog fans more biased. Seriously, imagine these two players had no character behind them, and we're analysing purely on the games, half of these people going "OMG SUCH GOOD GAMES underdog won!!" would be complaining how boring it is.


Fact is you CAN'T take 'character' out. The reason there's so much tension is cause there's so much hype and expectation. There really is no such thing as a game that is won on purely mechanics and ability alone. There is always pressure and mettle and determination involved. And if the player can't take it then he tilts. And that is why MVP and Nestea are great. Very clutch. Very stable.

I'm not saying people should take character out when watching these games. You're reading it wrong. I was merely replying to the comment saying how MMA fanboys are biased in saying these are bad games. When in actuallity, these ARE bad games no matter how you look at it. I just went on to imply that of course any game would be good if the player you're cheering for is winning, no doubt.
Atasu
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada98 Posts
June 18 2011 10:29 GMT
#5328
calling it now, MMA drops to code b
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
June 18 2011 10:29 GMT
#5329
On June 18 2011 19:27 DonaldLee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 19:25 Ansalem wrote:
On June 18 2011 19:23 kidleader wrote:
On June 18 2011 19:12 Arceus wrote:
screw fanboys. This is the best GSL final Ive ever watched. How can it be bad when the supposedly underdog whitewash fanfavoritemlgchampsonofboxer ? And the way Polt did this is so boss. He mindfucks and outsmarts his opponent to the trophy. What a champ


A) MMA has charisma/is likeable. Polt doesn't/isn't. He has no story. This is massive in Starcraft whether we like it or not. See Bisu, see Jaedong, see pretty much every successful player in BW.
B) People want epic games. MMA choked and Polt didn't. Doesn't take anything away from Polt but it's not exactly exciting.


Polt just graduated from the best university in Korea, stepped up his game and won the super tournament. Isn't that enough of a story for you?


It's called bias. MMA doesn't have any more charisma or story than Polt does, he just likes him better so he feels like he does.


uh mma is more handsome by FAR. so he wins in my book. no homo
Dhuum
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2 Posts
June 18 2011 10:29 GMT
#5330
MMA's in code S...mlg champion
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
June 18 2011 10:30 GMT
#5331
On June 18 2011 19:23 kidleader wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 19:12 Arceus wrote:
screw fanboys. This is the best GSL final Ive ever watched. How can it be bad when the supposedly underdog whitewash fanfavoritemlgchampsonofboxer ? And the way Polt did this is so boss. He mindfucks and outsmarts his opponent to the trophy. What a champ


A) MMA has charisma/is likeable. Polt doesn't/isn't. He has no story. This is massive in Starcraft whether we like it or not. See Bisu, see Jaedong, see pretty much every successful player in BW.
B) People want epic games. MMA choked and Polt didn't. Doesn't take anything away from Polt but it's not exactly exciting.

A. I like the story about a student in SNU winning GSL better. And his smack talk is even better
B. The point is Polt makes him choke. I love that aspect. Thats how dominant players do all the time. oov did it, Flash did it. We all love their finals
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
June 18 2011 10:30 GMT
#5332
These guys just won 30k and 100k, what have YOU accomplished?
maryelizbethwinstead
Profile Joined April 2011
Mexico223 Posts
June 18 2011 10:30 GMT
#5333
On June 18 2011 19:27 Dhuum wrote:
Polt was the favorite to win in Korea...


For real?

I didn't expect that. But if that's true, it just shows who knows where it's at.

I thought at first that Polt would win by a slim margin, but after rewatching Polt v TOP I thought MMA would win. Polt looked shaky at times there.

Polt showed zero nerves today. I hope he keeps this up.
Lord, teach me to be patient.
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
June 18 2011 10:30 GMT
#5334
On June 18 2011 19:29 Golgotha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 19:27 DonaldLee wrote:
On June 18 2011 19:25 Ansalem wrote:
On June 18 2011 19:23 kidleader wrote:
On June 18 2011 19:12 Arceus wrote:
screw fanboys. This is the best GSL final Ive ever watched. How can it be bad when the supposedly underdog whitewash fanfavoritemlgchampsonofboxer ? And the way Polt did this is so boss. He mindfucks and outsmarts his opponent to the trophy. What a champ


A) MMA has charisma/is likeable. Polt doesn't/isn't. He has no story. This is massive in Starcraft whether we like it or not. See Bisu, see Jaedong, see pretty much every successful player in BW.
B) People want epic games. MMA choked and Polt didn't. Doesn't take anything away from Polt but it's not exactly exciting.


Polt just graduated from the best university in Korea, stepped up his game and won the super tournament. Isn't that enough of a story for you?


It's called bias. MMA doesn't have any more charisma or story than Polt does, he just likes him better so he feels like he does.


uh mma is more handsome by FAR. so he wins in my book. no homo

Embrace your homo nerd crushes man.
DonaldLee
Profile Joined August 2010
586 Posts
June 18 2011 10:30 GMT
#5335
On June 18 2011 19:29 Golgotha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 19:27 DonaldLee wrote:
On June 18 2011 19:25 Ansalem wrote:
On June 18 2011 19:23 kidleader wrote:
On June 18 2011 19:12 Arceus wrote:
screw fanboys. This is the best GSL final Ive ever watched. How can it be bad when the supposedly underdog whitewash fanfavoritemlgchampsonofboxer ? And the way Polt did this is so boss. He mindfucks and outsmarts his opponent to the trophy. What a champ


A) MMA has charisma/is likeable. Polt doesn't/isn't. He has no story. This is massive in Starcraft whether we like it or not. See Bisu, see Jaedong, see pretty much every successful player in BW.
B) People want epic games. MMA choked and Polt didn't. Doesn't take anything away from Polt but it's not exactly exciting.


Polt just graduated from the best university in Korea, stepped up his game and won the super tournament. Isn't that enough of a story for you?


It's called bias. MMA doesn't have any more charisma or story than Polt does, he just likes him better so he feels like he does.


uh mma is more handsome by FAR. so he wins in my book. no homo


That is fair.
mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
June 18 2011 10:30 GMT
#5336
Who's to say Polt wouldn't win MLG if he was the one that went instead of MMA? It's really not fair to hold MLG as an accomplishment over a bunch of players who didn't attend it. The only people you can are Losira (Polt beat), MC (Polt beat), Moon (isn't even Code A), and July.
MKP||TSL
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
June 18 2011 10:30 GMT
#5337
On June 18 2011 19:29 Dhuum wrote:
MMA's in code S...mlg champion

SIGH NO
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
June 18 2011 10:30 GMT
#5338
On June 18 2011 19:29 Dhuum wrote:
MMA's in code S...mlg champion


No he's not.
Tsohg
Profile Joined May 2011
26 Posts
June 18 2011 10:30 GMT
#5339
On June 18 2011 19:29 Atasu wrote:
calling it now, MMA drops to code b


MMB
Tarbosh
Profile Joined October 2010
United States127 Posts
June 18 2011 10:30 GMT
#5340
It is a shame it was as one sided as every other GSL, but I can't say I'm surprised. Despite the presence of such great players we continue to see dominance in the finals. The GSL finals tends to show the best player of the time. The turnover rate is pretty extreme, but Polt has undoubtedly shown the best play for the past couple months. I would have been disappointed to see him lose knowing he was the best. Such dominance is just not very entertaining though.
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