On May 30 2011 20:04 pilsken wrote: Does every Terran have that little bitbybitprime in them?
When zergs do a roach/ling timing against 3gate sentry expand and protoss qq'd, what did zergs say?
Stop playing so greedy.
No no no, you must remember that in the land of the zerg (read anywhere on the internet) zergs can do no wrong. T/P fast expo = greedy and should be a loss. Z fast expo = mandatory and should be allowed, read no rush 10 T/P
Ok that was mainly sarcasm but seriously so so fed up with zerg whining. Yes it was a pretty dull game and maybe zerg cant scout that easily but he still could have guessed/assumed what his opponent was going to do (all in/etc) based on the previous game and his history.
im not QQing but you cant compare 1 base Z to 1 base T and P.
On May 30 2011 20:09 hmunkey wrote: A lot of people are blaming poor scouting and greediness for Junwi's loss, so would someone please enlighten me on how exactly he's supposed to scout that? There was a walloff (which he didn't even make it to because of the three marines at the 2nd ramp) and there were patrolling marines at the base perimeter. It's not like Junwi had scans or overlord speed that early.
And regarding the greediness: the only way to hold that off is to build several spines and cut drone production entirely. How is that even reasonable to do blind?
He got supply blocked at the crucial moment for one, had no lings outside the terran base and didnt really have control of the xel naga towers.
On May 30 2011 20:06 hmunkey wrote: How is he supposed to scout that? I understand he was being a bit greedy, but even if Junwi had gone pool first he wouldn't have been able to stop that unless he stopped drone production at around 15 and never expanded.
Lmao - are you kidding? He could leave a unit outside his base and he would have had 2 extra spines and several extra lings instead of those 10 drones he began producing after all SCVs were pulled or he could at least try to get the xel'naga.
Good call to punish the greediest zerg player next to FD s1+2.
Agree, it's not like that all-in hasn't been held before. He powered drones before he was sure that he wasn't going to get rushed.
On May 30 2011 20:04 pilsken wrote: Does every Terran have that little bitbybitprime in them?
No its just not a terran push without a bunch of SCV's in it.
When in Doubt, Bring the SCVs!
I liked how Artosis was like Sorry guys this is over, ok lets talk about something else.
The, dare I say, B team casters, always seem to try so so very hard to keep it interesting.
If Artosis is B team who the flying fuck is A team...?
It wasn't obvious to you that he meant 'as opposed to the B team casters'? He clearly wasn't trying to keep it interesting? How the fuck did that confuse you?
On May 30 2011 20:05 BuzZoo wrote: It's a shame that Junwi is so good at mid and late game yet doesn't know how to scout/stop common terran all-ins. Even I know to leave a ling on the doorstep at all times.
you cant scout that shit. Virus just denies scouting till its far too late.
send in overlord. If that gets deny early he can at least see ALOT of marines, if only a few marines killing it he can fly deep enough to see the multi-raxs.
It takes 3 marines tops to kill a slow overlord quickly enough to keep it from seeing any barracks. Unless you expect Junwi and all other zergs to throw away multiple overlords for a scout early on, there really isn't much else to do.
EPT
CoCa vs NaDa 
Well played by Virus, knowing Junwi was extremely greedy early game.
