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clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
May 30 2011 11:13 GMT
#1661
If Nada gets rushed now and becomes angry, will he take his shirt off?
drox22
Profile Joined April 2011
129 Posts
May 30 2011 11:13 GMT
#1662
On May 30 2011 20:08 densha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 20:07 Zhalad wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:06 hmunkey wrote:
How is he supposed to scout that? I understand he was being a bit greedy, but even if Junwi had gone pool first he wouldn't have been able to stop that unless he stopped drone production at around 15 and never expanded.



Overlords fly dude.


You know they're really, really, really slow and it was a huge map, right? Also, one marine negates early OL scouting, yeah?



1 Marine really? How long does it take one marine to kill an overlord? Like a minute?
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 11:15:02
May 30 2011 11:13 GMT
#1663
On May 30 2011 20:09 hmunkey wrote:
A lot of people are blaming poor scouting and greediness for Junwi's loss, so would someone please enlighten me on how exactly he's supposed to scout that? There was a walloff (which he didn't even make it to because of the three marines at the 2nd ramp) and there were patrolling marines at the base perimeter. It's not like Junwi had scans or overlord speed that early.

And regarding the greediness: the only way to hold that off is to build several spines and cut drone production entirely. How is that even reasonable to do blind?

Junwi had enough lings to kill the 3 marines denying scouting. Instead he attacked his rocks. He could've whacked those marines and seen no CC, then gone allout defence and win easily.

Anyway you don't have to go 100% defence or 100% drones. If he had built just one more spine he would have held that by pulling all his drones. 1 spine is cheap as hell. It's cheaper than 4 lings! (same cost, 1 less larva).
Cramsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1100 Posts
May 30 2011 11:13 GMT
#1664
Man NaDA psyching himself up is so awesome
"give me 20 minutes and I'll make them quiet" - MVP
Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
May 30 2011 11:13 GMT
#1665
Please NaDa, make today worth watching. I believe in you!
"Killer helped me feel better before coming to the arena. He told me to say that." - Bomber
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
May 30 2011 11:14 GMT
#1666
[image loading]
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
zocktol
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1928 Posts
May 30 2011 11:14 GMT
#1667
Hmm wouldn't it be possible to get 2-3 spines blind and later put then into your mineral lines?
You would be protected against early aggression AND later it would help a bit against drops.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 30 2011 11:14 GMT
#1668
On May 30 2011 20:13 SenorChang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 20:11 Marcus420 wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:08 Drazerk wrote:
Fourth And Final Match will be starting soon

CoCa vs NaDa

Game one will be played on Terminus RE

1000 posts in a week. stop spamming. wow =/


sad to wake up to jinro out x.x

he's live reporting... and doing a damn fine job too.


Yeah Live reporting Both the Nasl and GSL leads to quite a lot of posts...
Breach_hu
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary2431 Posts
May 30 2011 11:14 GMT
#1669
"good beats man" :D nyiahahhaa
Give thanks and praise!
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
May 30 2011 11:14 GMT
#1670
--- Nuked ---
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
May 30 2011 11:14 GMT
#1671
go nada go <3. roflstomp this noob
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4189 Posts
May 30 2011 11:14 GMT
#1672
GO Nada! Loyal Fan here since 2008
Breach_hu
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary2431 Posts
May 30 2011 11:15 GMT
#1673
terminus is a fawken hard map to play TvZ
Give thanks and praise!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
May 30 2011 11:15 GMT
#1674
On May 30 2011 20:08 Drazerk wrote:
Fourth And Final Match will be starting soon

CoCa vs NaDa

Game one will be played on Terminus RE


Game One is now Starting

At the 3 o clock position is Coca

While at the 9 is none other than NaDa
jinixxx123
Profile Joined June 2010
543 Posts
May 30 2011 11:15 GMT
#1675
to be honest, game 2 and game 3 of virus and junwi are prime examples of why ZvT is not quite balanced yet. Both abused imbas.


Terran cant beat zerg late game......... and zergs cant scout terran allins properly early game, thats just the fact and its a game flaw.
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
May 30 2011 11:15 GMT
#1676
On May 30 2011 20:14 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 20:13 SenorChang wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:11 Marcus420 wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:08 Drazerk wrote:
Fourth And Final Match will be starting soon

CoCa vs NaDa

Game one will be played on Terminus RE

1000 posts in a week. stop spamming. wow =/


sad to wake up to jinro out x.x

he's live reporting... and doing a damn fine job too.


Yeah Live reporting Both the Nasl and GSL leads to quite a lot of posts...

Mad props to you. You do a great job.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
May 30 2011 11:15 GMT
#1677
On May 30 2011 20:07 Kira.Yami wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 20:06 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On May 30 2011 20:05 BuzZoo wrote:
It's a shame that Junwi is so good at mid and late game yet doesn't know how to scout/stop common terran all-ins. Even I know to leave a ling on the doorstep at all times.

you cant scout that shit. Virus just denies scouting till its far too late.


send in overlord. If that gets deny early he can at least see ALOT of marines, if only a few marines killing it he can fly deep enough to see the multi-raxs.

nah, if you place marines well and barracks well, its impossible to scout
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
May 30 2011 11:16 GMT
#1678
Go Nada!
Show him the power of the genius terran!
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
Breach_hu
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary2431 Posts
May 30 2011 11:16 GMT
#1679
if you get older is harder to practice 10 hours a day:/
Give thanks and praise!
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
May 30 2011 11:16 GMT
#1680
On May 30 2011 20:13 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 20:09 hmunkey wrote:
A lot of people are blaming poor scouting and greediness for Junwi's loss, so would someone please enlighten me on how exactly he's supposed to scout that? There was a walloff (which he didn't even make it to because of the three marines at the 2nd ramp) and there were patrolling marines at the base perimeter. It's not like Junwi had scans or overlord speed that early.

And regarding the greediness: the only way to hold that off is to build several spines and cut drone production entirely. How is that even reasonable to do blind?

Junwi had enough lings to kill the 3 marines denying scouting. Instead he attacked his rocks. He could've whacked those marines and seen no CC, then gone allout defence and win easily.
He had 4 lings...

And even that aside, the barracks were behind the wall so he wouldn't have seen them anyways. Yeah, not seeing a CC would cause him to bulk up his defense a bit, but there's no way he could possibly have known there was actually a CC further back or not and his reaction would be a total gamble.
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